EO in General ARE NOT Dangerous Liver Destroyers *was* Wintergreen and Sweet Birch

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Hi Butch,

 

Right you are on pharmaceuticals. I run from them like the plague.

Not that they do not have their rightful place when used with

discrimination and in life threatening conditions. And Doctors

treating humans as " experimental objects " is one of my pet peeves.

Wait until the whole issue of SSRI drugs blows up one day and we see

the results of the prozacs, etc. on unsuspecting patients.

 

The above is why I love studying anything that is in the " natural "

world of helping one to maintain a healthy, balanced lifestyle.

 

I love deep discussions and contrarian points of view. It is

the " pepper " in the soup pot. Bland is not in my lifestyle.

 

I do appreciate Anya's posts. On hindsight, I was using too many

EO's in an attempt to learn since I'm in the infancy stage on this

remarkable subject. So I'll start using more discrimination and

attempt to go slower.

 

Some people can't walk through a rose garden without allergic

reactions. I love nature and its beauty and smells. So the world

of aromatherapy (including hydrosols) is an exciting field to me.

 

With your limited time, your hard work both in your business and at

the local cafe/pub, your lack of sleep and never ending humor, I

appreciate your taking time to give your views on the subject of

safe use of EO's.

 

Have a wonderful Holiday. " Tis the Season "

 

Bobbye

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Hey Bobbye,

 

> Dear Anya,

 

Lemme throw in a couple of lira of opinion.

 

> Thank you for your reply. I understand what you are saying.

 

Glad you did. ;-p

 

> I still can't logically put all this together. People who make

> soap are smelling the EO's everytime they make a batch. I know

> today I made laundry soap, several different bars of soap with

> multiple scents. Would wearing a mask help keep the EO's at a

> distant?

 

Don't get the impression that you need to hide from EOs. That is not at

all the reality of the situation. Its sometimes difficult to lay out

the technical probabilities of situations without causing too much

concern on the part of the readers. I see discussions about the safety

aspects of EOs being a lot like the State Department travel warnings ..

they are not exactly wrong but the odds against the things they warn

against going down are about as good as expecting to get hit in the ass

by a piece falling off an airplane if you live in a flight path to an

airport.

 

On a daily basis, we are faced with a multitude of odors of products

that can be harmful. When we walk outside we pass through zones of such

odors .. its like going through the layers of a Tequila Sunrise drink.

Even if we stay at home odds are we will face the same thing. Its not

something we need to be OVERLY concerned with because there is little we

can do about it. Even if folks decide to move to the pristine areas

that are unspoiled, when enough of them move there the area won't remain

as clean as it was before.

 

HOWSOMEVER .. the point of warning folks about EOs is to alert them to

the fact that because something is natural does not necessarily mean it

is safe to use as often as you choose. Proper safe use of EOs is far

less likely to cause harm than proper safe use of over-the-counter type

medications. Even the American Medical Association's Journal (JAMA)

annually puts out information on deaths due to malpractice and wrongful

prescription of medications .. its in the TENS of THOUSANDS. Do they

want to put this out? Probably not. So that would make one think they

do it under duress and might shade the numbers a bit in their favor.

Let it happen ONE TIME to someone using a natural product and the AMA,

FDA and major mega-buck, multinational pharmaceutical companies will

work hand-in-hand to ensure it makes front page news nationwide.

 

> And again, I'm using the cleaning EO blends. There is a minute

> amount in an 8 oz. bottle so this maybe safer than diffusing. I

> have to think they are safer than the chemicals found in most

> cleaning products. I quit diffusing any EO's but I'm using the

> hydrosols.

 

Don't quit diffusing EOs .. you're a helluva lot better off doing that

than you are going outside without a Chemical, Biological, Radiological

Protection Mask and a Rebreather. What you need to do is get a better

education on the proper use of EOs .. then you can make an edumocated

decision as to what you want to do .. and don't fear EOs.

 

> I would like to hear other's opinions.

 

You got mine. And though I'm not through writing I'm gonna keep this

one relatively short cause this is an area where I would really like to

write a 20 page post with a lotta capital letters. If at the end of

this post I leave you with any message .. let it be that proper, safe

use of essential oils is NOT going to cause you ANY grief.

 

> On sleep: I agree meditation, exercise, proper diet, deep

> breathing, transmutation, prayer are all very valid to maintain

> balance. However, there are certain times in one's life when

> certain events occur when I choose to use all the help I can get.

 

The above is the ideal for folks like me. I rarely have time to take a

pee without thinking of what job I have to knock out next. Sometimes it

gets so bad that I decide to do nothing and go meditate with an ice cold

Efes Beer or four .. exercise my right arm by bringing the glass to my

mouth from the table .. deep breath when the purty little gals come

walking by .. like the Miss Turkey who was just crowned Miss World, then

transmute from the kindly Suthran gennelman I truly am into a dirty old

man and pray she will sit at my table due to the place being so

crowded. ;-p

 

> I will be more discriminating in using the EO's however.

 

That's the right spirit .. and it applies to damn near everything we do

in life.

 

> Thank you for taking the time to respond.

 

You didn't ask me .. but you're welcome any old how. ;-9

 

> Bobbye

>

> P.S. Chris, your are pregnant. How do you keep from getting OD

> making soaps, lotions, oils and other products in which you put EO's?

 

She'll answer .. but she has NO DANGER of being OD'd on such things.

The whole issue of use of essential oils by pregnant ladies is one that

has been drawn way out from the realm of reality due to misinformation

and fear amongst members of a cottage-industry that lack the proper

information .. so they cover their butts with unnecessary warnings.

 

I am NOT one who practices or preaches unsafe use of EOs. In fact, its

normally ONLY the issues of safety that can draw me away from all the

crap I'm doing long enough to make a post. But we must not fear the Hob

Goblins when we go out at night or the Trolls when we cross a bridge.

 

Keep in mind that the subject above began as Wintergreen/Birch. These

are dangerous because of the cumulative storage in the body. This is

NOT the case for most EOs .. every class of essential oils are unique

within their class and though we might not have an abundance of medical

historical information upon which to base our conscious decisions, we do

have lots and lots of empirical evidence. Believe me, MOST medical

dudes do NOT know crap about Methyl salicyclate .. they know nothing

about the cumulative effects of toxins in the body or the potential

problems for the liver. I challenge ANY of you to ask your doctor to

discuss this .. watch them dance the Shuffle Shuffle and talk the Humma

Humma. Most of them (except for the rare Toxicologist) know little

about anything outside the routine until they become more experienced

and a lot of that experience comes from failures when they are dealing

with and treating their guinea pigs .. human critters. Ain't been all

that long since they were bleeding folks and treating with arsenic.

 

Daily, the FDA withdraws approved patented and prescription medications

from the shelves AFTER the terrible publicity gets so loud they can't

ignore it. Its those frigging medications one must be concerned with!

And the medical doctors who " practice " use human guinea pigs .. not me

but some of you .. to test those medications in order to see if the kill

ratio is worse than the cure ratio. Anybody who tries to justify this

experimentation in any manner other than the way I've described it here

is living in Lala Land.

 

Doctors are taught to recognize symtoms of illnesses. They then turn to

their handy-dandy, guaranteed to not rust, bust or collect dust, text on

symtoms and decide that odds are the illness is this or that. They then

go to their pharmaceutical industry produced manual of drugs/medicines

and match the symptoms with a cure. They try the cure on the guinea pig

and if it works or fails its reported .. maybe.

 

Bottom line .. the pharmaceutical companies ARE the decision makers ..

they take the doctors on expensive trips and teach them how to do their

jobs using THEIR products. I'll stop here before I get too pissed off.

 

Y'all keep smiling, Butch http://www.AV-AT.com