Guest guest Posted November 8, 2002 Report Share Posted November 8, 2002 Right On Dale lol Carol in NJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2002 Report Share Posted November 8, 2002 Butch - Don't ever stop. I just see your name and I start giggling. Okay, I rarely wear make-up. Since I was a teenager a lot of my friends' moms told me I had great pores, great skin and not to ruin it by wearing make-up. This wasn't hard to do - I have olive skin and I lived in an all white (for 100 miles around) area. Frosted blue eyeshadow I could do without!!! LOL However, as kids me and my friends worked out in corn fields all summer (no, it's not child labor) and would get horrific tans (as in terrific but we all now know how horrible they are for you). Plus, I was tired of wearing coke bottle bottom eyeglasses and started wearing contacts. I contribute my fine eye wrinkles to the contacts (all that stretching and pulling) and my now not as supple facial skin to age and the sun (I'm 37). My gray hairs I attribute to five kids (if you include my husband) and an ex-husband (yes, there's one of those too) and my own not-so-smart sometimes moves. If someone can tell me how to keep my gray hairs silver and shining I'd be so grateful. I'd like to keep them unless they get ugly. Dale Right back at ya Butch!! Oh, and men look better as they age because they've sucked the life out of the women they were with......KIDDING!!! - Butch Owen Friday, November 08, 2002 7:50 AM Wrinkles ** Martin's Opinion Hey y'all, Here's something Martin wrote once on wrinkles. The names have been changed to protect the wrinkled. ;-p Butch -------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2002 Report Share Posted November 8, 2002 Hey y'all, Here's something Martin wrote once on wrinkles. The names have been changed to protect the wrinkled. ;-p Butch --------------- This is something I put on a group a couple of years ago. This problem of wrinkles, particularly under the eyes, is an increasing problem and I believe it is due to preservatives in all over the counter cosmetics. Below are some of the exchanges: ---------------------- Sun, 22 Apr 2001 09:41:37 -0400 >XXX, you might like to post my reply. Martin XXX's Statement: >For instance, colloidal silver kills microbes very well, as do aerobic > oxygen and turmeric. I put these all on my skin and even up my nose. Martin's Reply: This is an extremely vague statement; without knowing what kind of volume she is talking about, and frequency of use, it is meaningless. To suggest that because she has no problem doing this that it is therefore fine for the majority of people is really misleading. I know a couple of people who have used cinnamon bark oil on their skin with no problem, yet statistics tell us that it is a severe sensitizer and it kills skin cells as good as acid. I stick to my statement that *anything* designed to kill bacteria is also likely to kill skin cells whether it be natural or synthetic. Of course volume and length of use are very important, particularly when the substance is used in cosmetics. There are no long term studies in the public domain on the effects of the preservatives used in cosmetics with consistent use over say a 10 year period. If it be natural or synthetic in this case is not relevant. Most natural preservatives such as benzoin were abandoned long ago by the cosmetics trades because of hazards associated with their use. On the other hand, some of the newer colloidal metals preparations seem to be very good and safe preservatives because they only need to be used at the minutest levels. Perhaps people should consider why it is, that increasingly women in their middle to late 20s seem to be developing noticeable wrinkling around their eyes. Could it be the damaging effects of wearing cosmetics for maybe 10 years plus? I am mighty suspicious. Martin Watt, UK ------------- Someone replied: Wow... too interesting!!! Ya know, my 16 year old daughter must be a whole lot smarter than her years. Our neighbor, who's 10 years younger than I am, has incredible wrinkles, especially in the eye area... I don't seem to have many at all. My daughter insists it's because the neighbor wears SO much eye makeup whereas I don't wear makeup at all... Who woulda thought...???? Wow.... ------------------------- Someone else replied: We're about the same age, then! I haven't had the pleasure of using really " good " soap (meaning non-store bought) until I started making it 2 years ago... so I don't know why *I'm* not looking like one of the California Raisins... ROFL!! I'm not saying Martin's absolutely correct... it sounds as if he's approaching it as a theory. It just struck me as wild that my 16 year old would have that same theory! (Maybe we're too young at heart to develop wrinkles? I like THAT theory and I'm stickin' to it! LOL!) -- Somebody else replied: > > Perhaps people should consider why it is, that increasingly women in their > > middle to late 20s seem to be developing noticeable wrinkling around their > > eyes. Could it be the damaging effects of wearing cosmetics for maybe 10 > > years plus? I am mighty suspicious. > > > > Martin Watt, UK I grew up during the days of the hippies and the wonderful eye make up that went with it. I also smoke - but i do not - at 50 have bad wrinkles around my eyes - YET. I am rather surprised by this since i also have terrible alergies and have spent decades rubbing my poor eyes raw. Dinah Shores attributed her great skin to all the years that she wore a ton of pancake makeup. Someone else replied: Man... I dunno???? Makeup and materials have changed a lot, I'd think, since the days of Dinah, though... shoot... I have NO idea! LOL!!! (Maybe we've hit some kind of time continuum that allows us to age gracefully while forcing wrinkles on much younger women... ) ---------------------------- And someone else replied: I think wrinkles (or not) are caused by many things; genetics, sunbathing, smoking, drinking alcohol heavily, sleep depravation. Probably the most influential is genetics and we can't do a thing about that --yet. ******** And finally .. my opinion is that wrinkles are caused by a natural loss of elasticity in the skin and its more prominent in skinny folks and those who lose a lot of weight than it is in chubby face folks. That observation was an easy one. ;-p But sun will cause drying .. just as it will dry fruit, it will draw the moisture from our skin and cause wrinkling. Its probably worse today than in the past due to slow depletion of the Earth's ozone layer which allows more harmful rays to get through. Tanning booths might make a person look like a Golden Girl/Boy but they will certainly cause wrinkling .. just as will sunbathing. About 90% + of those harmful rays hit the Earth betwixt the hours of 10 AM to 2 PM so that oughta tell us something - huh? Folks living at high altitude can be affected by these rays much quicker than those in lower areas. Wrinkling can also be caused from wrinkling .. that is, wrinkling our face and eyes up a bunch. Some folks have a perpetual frown or are quick to change facial expressions .. big-time animated. Permanent wrinkling can occur from these actions. Sleeping with your face against a pillow continuously is gonna cause some permanent pillow lines on the face. Moisturizers work .. miracle cures don't. When I first started selling Early-Harvest Extra-Virgin Olive Oil .. I started to put up a photo of a lady I know here in Turkey who is in her LATE 40s now .. and she is some kinda beauty. In fact, we went to a photo studio around the corner from my office to take that photo and I might put it on the site someday. In any case, she has not used soap on her face since she was a teenager. She does use makeup from time to time. But she has (according to her) only used Early-Harvest Extra-Virgin Olive Oil .. with an oleic acid content of less than 6/10% in all those years. Today, her face could pass for a 25 year old girl .. and she's never had a face lift. Her hands, however, show her age and its strange to see this young gal sitting there with hands that obviously don't match the face. ;-p Facial massage works too. Stimulates circulation. But the best way to cope with your own wrinkles .. methinks .. is to hang out with folks what's a whole bunch more wrinkled than you are. Y'all keep smiling, Butch http://www.AV-AT.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2002 Report Share Posted November 9, 2002 - Dale Bernucca If someone can tell me how to keep my gray hairs silver and shining I'd be so grateful. I'd like to keep them unless they get ugly. Hi Dale, A drop of olive oil in your palm, rub together and lightly pat. Just read this today, don't know if it works....give me another 15 years or so for the grays to take over completely. Geeee, I can't wait. <;+ Carol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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