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In a message dated 11/3/2002 2:51:21 PM Pacific Standard Time,

butchbsi writes:

 

> Carol Mcilvane

>

 

This Name just rang a 4 alarm bell in my head. I KNOW for a FACT that there

is a Carol Mcilvane that is a MAJOR distributor for YLEO.

 

Are you THAT Carol Mcilvane?

 

Running out to check with one of my sources! ;-)

 

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Nope! Stay as long as you like. I'm not the list mum here. Just a curious by

stander. However, you may find at times, things might feel a little

uncomfortable whenever the subject of GY and YLEO and RDT comes up!

 

Cheers!

Kathleen Petrides

The Woobey Queen: Canoodle with a Woobey when even Chocolate can't help.

Woobey Tip:

http://www.woobeys.com

 

 

 

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Hi Butch,

Maybe I thinks I should thinks abouts what I says before I says it. I am not

here to gather information to carry back to Young Living. I am not playing games

either. I chose to have a sense of humor when asking questions, (just my

style).

I have over 60 bottles of oils from Young Living that I absolutely love and use

on a daily basis. I take many of them internally. I am interested in gaining a

different perspective and hear all sides.

You are right, I do need to do more investigative reading before posting, call

me lazy. I'm one of those that goes to the back of the book to read the ending.

Thanks for your websites and info, time to go read.

Da Best,

Carol

CapeCod,Mass

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Butch Owen

Monday, November 04, 2002 3:54 AM

OT: Young Living and Gary Young

 

 

Carol,

 

> Butch,

> What was your experience with him?

 

None personally ... thank the Great Everywhere Spirits. I also have no

personal experience with Saddam Hussein but I have a pretty good idea of

who he is based on how he behaves.

 

What was your experience with him?

 

> Did you get screwed out of downline or something?

 

Lawd nah .. even at the most inexperienced point of my life I would

never have fallen for a multi-level-marketing (MLM) scheme or a Nigerian

wanting to send me 25 million bucks. ;-p

 

Did you have an up or down line?

 

> I don't mess with the business part of YL because they change the comp

> plan everytime the wind blows.

 

I read this as meaning you are involved with YL in some capacity. One

doesn't have to search far to see the problems with MLM .. they are

inherent in the business. http://www.vandruff.com/mlm.html

 

> So tell me, I wanna know, what's your beef with the " G " man? Carol

 

Carol .. are you trying to gain information that will help you make a

decision .. or are you trying to use this list to support the Young

Living organization? If you wanted to know my beef all you had to do

was check out the URL I provided on the previous post.

 

I'm think you have not asked such a question on other AT lists before ..

or at least not on Idma. If you had, you would have received HUNDREDS

and HUNDREDS of beefs concerning Mr. Gary Young. Many from ex-YL'ers ..

many from folks who finally saw through the bovine excrement the YL

organization uses to peddle their products for unbelievely high prices,

and many from people who are knowledgeable on the safe use of EO who

have difficulty accepting the unsafe use of same encouraged by YL

management and then practiced by their unqualified YL practitioners.

 

I'm thinking you have not read any of the information and exposes on

Kathleen's On-Line Magazine .. http://www.aromaticsage.com

 

I'm thinking you didn't read my post (below) very well .. and you didn't

check the YL Files that I referenced (below).

 

I'm thinking that you are asking for information that is available in

many locations .. on many sites .. even in a white paper recently

submitted to the National Association of Holistic Aromatherapy on Young

Living's hazardous practice of using massive amounts of neat EOs on

people's spines in a procedure called Raindrop Therapy that is supposed

to cure curvature of the spine .. and in which they claim that the

burning from those irritating oils is from the release of viruses or

whatever .. ;-p

 

Finally, I'm wondering why you are asking such a question as " what's

your beef " on this list.

 

Being an ex-cop and a suspecious but astute person by nature, I get the

impression you are trying to play games here. If I'm wrong, I'll eat

those words .. but I doubt if that will be necessary. Butch

 

> Visit the YL Files at http://www.fragrant.demon.co.uk/ylfiles.html

> and make your decision.

 

> > Hello Butch,

> > I was wondering if this is the same Butch that has the YL files

> > that talks about Gary Young in a less than complimentary way?

> > Carol Mcilvane

 

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Hi Woobey,

Nothing major about me in Young Living. I have posted often on Joy Group to

learn and share info that I have saved. If I am a Young Living Distributor

should I unsuscribe??

Carol

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WoobeyQueen

Sunday, November 03, 2002 5:57 PM

Re: OT: Young Living and Gary Young

 

 

In a message dated 11/3/2002 2:51:21 PM Pacific Standard Time,

butchbsi writes:

 

> Carol Mcilvane

>

 

This Name just rang a 4 alarm bell in my head. I KNOW for a FACT that there

is a Carol Mcilvane that is a MAJOR distributor for YLEO.

 

Are you THAT Carol Mcilvane?

 

Running out to check with one of my sources! ;-)

 

Cheers!

Kathleen Petrides

The Woobey Queen: Canoodle with a Woobey when even Chocolate can't help.

Woobey Tip:

http://www.woobeys.com

 

 

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Hmmm... looks like you've hooked a sizeable tuna there, Woobey! ;)

 

Leela

 

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<WoobeyQueen

 

Sunday, November 03, 2002 4:57 PM

Re: OT: Young Living and Gary Young

 

 

> In a message dated 11/3/2002 2:51:21 PM Pacific Standard Time,

> butchbsi writes:

>

> > Carol Mcilvane

> >

>

> This Name just rang a 4 alarm bell in my head. I KNOW for a FACT that

there

> is a Carol Mcilvane that is a MAJOR distributor for YLEO.

>

> Are you THAT Carol Mcilvane?

>

> Running out to check with one of my sources! ;-)

>

> Cheers!

> Kathleen Petrides

> The Woobey Queen: Canoodle with a Woobey when even Chocolate can't help.

> Woobey Tip:

> http://www.woobeys.com

>

>

>

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Carol,

 

> Butch,

> What was your experience with him?

 

None personally ... thank the Great Everywhere Spirits. I also have no

personal experience with Saddam Hussein but I have a pretty good idea of

who he is based on how he behaves.

 

What was your experience with him?

 

> Did you get screwed out of downline or something?

 

Lawd nah .. even at the most inexperienced point of my life I would

never have fallen for a multi-level-marketing (MLM) scheme or a Nigerian

wanting to send me 25 million bucks. ;-p

 

Did you have an up or down line?

 

> I don't mess with the business part of YL because they change the comp

> plan everytime the wind blows.

 

I read this as meaning you are involved with YL in some capacity. One

doesn't have to search far to see the problems with MLM .. they are

inherent in the business. http://www.vandruff.com/mlm.html

 

> So tell me, I wanna know, what's your beef with the " G " man? Carol

 

Carol .. are you trying to gain information that will help you make a

decision .. or are you trying to use this list to support the Young

Living organization? If you wanted to know my beef all you had to do

was check out the URL I provided on the previous post.

 

I'm think you have not asked such a question on other AT lists before ..

or at least not on Idma. If you had, you would have received HUNDREDS

and HUNDREDS of beefs concerning Mr. Gary Young. Many from ex-YL'ers ..

many from folks who finally saw through the bovine excrement the YL

organization uses to peddle their products for unbelievely high prices,

and many from people who are knowledgeable on the safe use of EO who

have difficulty accepting the unsafe use of same encouraged by YL

management and then practiced by their unqualified YL practitioners.

 

I'm thinking you have not read any of the information and exposes on

Kathleen's On-Line Magazine .. http://www.aromaticsage.com

 

I'm thinking you didn't read my post (below) very well .. and you didn't

check the YL Files that I referenced (below).

 

I'm thinking that you are asking for information that is available in

many locations .. on many sites .. even in a white paper recently

submitted to the National Association of Holistic Aromatherapy on Young

Living's hazardous practice of using massive amounts of neat EOs on

people's spines in a procedure called Raindrop Therapy that is supposed

to cure curvature of the spine .. and in which they claim that the

burning from those irritating oils is from the release of viruses or

whatever .. ;-p

 

Finally, I'm wondering why you are asking such a question as " what's

your beef " on this list.

 

Being an ex-cop and a suspecious but astute person by nature, I get the

impression you are trying to play games here. If I'm wrong, I'll eat

those words .. but I doubt if that will be necessary. Butch

 

> Visit the YL Files at http://www.fragrant.demon.co.uk/ylfiles.html

> and make your decision.

 

> > Hello Butch,

> > I was wondering if this is the same Butch that has the YL files

> > that talks about Gary Young in a less than complimentary way?

> > Carol Mcilvane

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