Turkish Rose Otto ** Calling All Rose Otto Fans! Urgent!

[Guest guest]

Hi y'all,

 

Lemme clarify some of what Chris has written below. I'm running out of

stock in Maryland because I'm being swamped with orders for Turkish Rose

Otto. Its at a point where for kilogram orders, I'm taking cash in

advance because I can't afford to swing the costs when I have 5-6 orders

for a kilo .. we're talking $20,000 plus in that case and from the time

I purchase and go through the bureaucratic administrative crap required

for an export .. and go through the same thing when it hits the USA ..

its 20-25 days from date of purchase to date of delivery to my company

in Maryland. Few small companies can handle financing such a buy for

one oil only. The last 60 days has seen better than a 300% increase in

demand from the same period last year. Why is this?

 

Because .. the Bulgarians had a bad crop year .. that, coupled with the

fact that they produce far less Rose Otto than the Turks do to begin

with, and the fact that they are still experimenting with free-marketing

after years of Central Government control .. encouraged them to make a

real bad call and raise their prices like 35% - 40%.

 

The Turkish producers had gotten used to a particular level of annual

sales (triple that of Bulgaria) and they normally produced a bit more

Rose Otto than they figured they would sell and turned the remainder

into Rose Concrete. But this year, they were swamped because European

perfumeries that had previously had contracts with Bulgaria turned to

Turkey .. they made a run on Rose Otto. Likewise, in addition to the

American and European Aromatherapy companies who routinely bought 1/2

kilo or a kilo from me from time to time, those that had previously

purchased Bulgarian are now turning to me also.

 

Unfortunately, ALL of the 2000 and 2001 Turkish Rose Otto is sold out!

This has NEVER happened before. I had planned to sell out of Crop 2000

by New Year and start selling Crop 2001 .. and I would have given 10 to

1 odds they would not have sold out Crop 2001 already because its not

happened in all the years I have worked this business. Now the Turks

have raised their price around 10% .. the first raise in 7 years, though

inflation was more than 400% in that period. Lucky are Americans and

those with hard currency that the cost was pegged to the dollar instead

of the Turkish Lira. Those countries who have fluctuating currency, and

the Euro is just that, are paying more than the 10% increase. Turks are

not going to peg any prices to the Euro .. nor would I.

 

My volume buying cost (which was already discounted) went up 10% .. and

I am not carrying all of that 10% cost over to buyers of kilo volumes

for a number of reasons .. but there was a small increase in my prices.

And I can't guarantee availability for the rest of this year. If they

can sell ALL the 2002 crop at one swoop, they will do it and everybody

will go home and relax until next June. I hope they do not but they

might. This is NOT a buyer's market now - its at the pleasure of the

seller. Like my Certified Organic Heli italicum from Corsica .. the

demand is greater than the supply so I'm limiting everyone to one ounce

on that and planning to be out before the new harvest.

 

This is NOT a scare tactic or attempt to sway sales .. what you folks

might buy in this offer Chris has made will likely be peanuts compared

to the volume of individual orders we'll get in the next seven days - I

want to make that clear and hope to NEVER EVER hear anyone say Butch

Owen tried such a tactic .. I'm just telling y'all that I might be out

of Rose Otto before the next harvest in June/July 2002 .. I hope that's

not the case and I can't say for sure that will happen but producers

here have said that if MIGHT go down. In any case, I have bought a

stash for myself that is above my normal needs and if I see that we

might run out before the end of the season there will be no more bulk

sales coming from me .. I'll offer it only retail .. no choice.

 

Y'all keep smiling, Butch http://www.AV-AT.com

 

AROMATIC TRAVELS: If you would like to take a trip through the Rose

Fields and Stills of Turkey, go to the following URLs ...

 

My writings on distillation of Rose Otto can be found at this URL

http://www.av-at.com/distillation/rosadamascena1.html

 

Also .. here is a URL with lots of good photos of wild aromatic plants

of Turkey .. http://www.av-at.com/stuff/triptoturkey.html

 

Martin Watt visited the Turkish Rose Fields in Summer 2000 - following

was published in the Winter 2000 edition of the magazine " Aromatica " .

http://www.aromamedical.demon.co.uk/new/rosedistillation.htm

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> Howdy folks,

>

> My friend Carrie and I are trying to get some folks to go in on buying

> some Turkish Rose Otto with us so we can get a better price on it

> (volume discount kinda thing). If anyone is interested in getting like a

> half oz or an oz .. let me know ASAP, that way we can all split a bigger

> bottle. I have no idea what the pricing will be on it - because at the

> moment I have no idea what size bottle we'll be able to buy. Maximum

> it'll cost is $247/oz (28 grams) - plus shipping costs .. but the more

> folks we can to go in on a bottle the less it'll be, but we have to act

> FAST cause Butch is running out of stock on it and there is NO MORE till

> next year!

>

> *Smile*

> Chris (list mom)

>

> http://www.alittleolfactory.com

[Guest guest]

Hi Chris,

 

Count me in on the Rose Otto. I have stayed strong long enough. Besides, it

is almost the holidays and I should treat myself, right?

 

Dian in Illinois

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Thank you for the info provided below Butch :-)

 

As always you're a lot more calm than I am (I'm like frantic to not miss

out on the last drops of Rose Otto here *LOL*)

I just don't wanna miss out on getting some Rose Otto and having to wait

until the middle of next year to be able to get it again! ESPECIALY

since going to Turkey and being there with you to witness the harvest

and distillation of that most precious oil (and hydrosol) I just can't

live without my Rose Otto!

 

And folks, we need 3 more people to go in on some with us gals to get

the amount we want . any takers here???

 

*Smile*

Chris (list mom)

 

http://www.alittleolfactory.com

 

 

Butch Owen [butchbsi]

Friday, November 01, 2002 10:12 PM

 

Turkish Rose Otto ** Calling All Rose Otto

Fans! Urgent!

 

Hi y'all,

 

Lemme clarify some of what Chris has written below. I'm running out of

stock in Maryland because I'm being swamped with orders for Turkish Rose

Otto. Its at a point where for kilogram orders, I'm taking cash in

advance because I can't afford to swing the costs when I have 5-6 orders

for a kilo .. we're talking $20,000 plus in that case and from the time

I purchase and go through the bureaucratic administrative crap required

for an export .. and go through the same thing when it hits the USA ..

its 20-25 days from date of purchase to date of delivery to my company

in Maryland. Few small companies can handle financing such a buy for

one oil only. The last 60 days has seen better than a 300% increase in

demand from the same period last year. Why is this?

 

Because .. the Bulgarians had a bad crop year .. that, coupled with the

fact that they produce far less Rose Otto than the Turks do to begin

with, and the fact that they are still experimenting with free-marketing

after years of Central Government control .. encouraged them to make a

real bad call and raise their prices like 35% - 40%.

 

The Turkish producers had gotten used to a particular level of annual

sales (triple that of Bulgaria) and they normally produced a bit more

Rose Otto than they figured they would sell and turned the remainder

into Rose Concrete. But this year, they were swamped because European

perfumeries that had previously had contracts with Bulgaria turned to

Turkey .. they made a run on Rose Otto. Likewise, in addition to the

American and European Aromatherapy companies who routinely bought 1/2

kilo or a kilo from me from time to time, those that had previously

purchased Bulgarian are now turning to me also.

 

Unfortunately, ALL of the 2000 and 2001 Turkish Rose Otto is sold out!

This has NEVER happened before. I had planned to sell out of Crop 2000

by New Year and start selling Crop 2001 .. and I would have given 10 to

1 odds they would not have sold out Crop 2001 already because its not

happened in all the years I have worked this business. Now the Turks

have raised their price around 10% .. the first raise in 7 years, though

inflation was more than 400% in that period. Lucky are Americans and

those with hard currency that the cost was pegged to the dollar instead

of the Turkish Lira. Those countries who have fluctuating currency, and

the Euro is just that, are paying more than the 10% increase. Turks are

not going to peg any prices to the Euro .. nor would I.

 

My volume buying cost (which was already discounted) went up 10% .. and

I am not carrying all of that 10% cost over to buyers of kilo volumes

for a number of reasons .. but there was a small increase in my prices.

And I can't guarantee availability for the rest of this year. If they

can sell ALL the 2002 crop at one swoop, they will do it and everybody

will go home and relax until next June. I hope they do not but they

might. This is NOT a buyer's market now - its at the pleasure of the

seller. Like my Certified Organic Heli italicum from Corsica .. the

demand is greater than the supply so I'm limiting everyone to one ounce

on that and planning to be out before the new harvest.

 

This is NOT a scare tactic or attempt to sway sales .. what you folks

might buy in this offer Chris has made will likely be peanuts compared

to the volume of individual orders we'll get in the next seven days - I

want to make that clear and hope to NEVER EVER hear anyone say Butch

Owen tried such a tactic .. I'm just telling y'all that I might be out

of Rose Otto before the next harvest in June/July 2002 .. I hope that's

not the case and I can't say for sure that will happen but producers

here have said that if MIGHT go down. In any case, I have bought a

stash for myself that is above my normal needs and if I see that we

might run out before the end of the season there will be no more bulk

sales coming from me .. I'll offer it only retail .. no choice.

 

Y'all keep smiling, Butch http://www.AV-AT.com

 

AROMATIC TRAVELS: If you would like to take a trip through the Rose

Fields and Stills of Turkey, go to the following URLs ...

 

My writings on distillation of Rose Otto can be found at this URL

http://www.av-at.com/distillation/rosadamascena1.html

 

Also .. here is a URL with lots of good photos of wild aromatic plants

of Turkey .. http://www.av-at.com/stuff/triptoturkey.html

 

Martin Watt visited the Turkish Rose Fields in Summer 2000 - following

was published in the Winter 2000 edition of the magazine " Aromatica " .

http://www.aromamedical.demon.co.uk/new/rosedistillation.htm

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[Guest guest]

Hi Chris,

 

What is needed - I amy have to get in?

 

Thanks,

 

S

 

, " chrisziggy " <chrisziggy@e...> wrote:

> Thank you for the info provided below Butch :-)

>

> As always you're a lot more calm than I am (I'm like frantic to not

miss

> out on the last drops of Rose Otto here *LOL*)

> I just don't wanna miss out on getting some Rose Otto and having to

wait

> until the middle of next year to be able to get it again! ESPECIALY

> since going to Turkey and being there with you to witness the

harvest

> and distillation of that most precious oil (and hydrosol) I just

can't

> live without my Rose Otto!

>

> And folks, we need 3 more people to go in on some with us gals to

get

> the amount we want . any takers here???

>

> *Smile*

> Chris (list mom)