Searching for organically grown herb

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Hi all of you.

Hope you're doing great.

 

I'm interested in purchasing some Indian tobacco herb (Lobelia

inflata) organically grown.

 

We're talking of a first buying of between 5 and 10 pounds of the

herbs...

The use I'm thinking to make of it? Some tincture... I want to help

others quitting tobacco.

 

Waiting for your news.

Best regards.

 

SpaNisH DrUiD

 

Stress management? Lawn by hand an entire acre of green and, after,

tell me about!

[Guest guest]

Hey there Spanish Druid :-)

 

I can get this for you organically grown - as well as get you seeds so

you can grow it yourself if you so desire! I'll e-mail you details :-)

 

Here is some info on the herb from Mrs.Grieves Modern Herbal (an OLD

book)

 

*Smile*

Chris (list mom)

 

http://www.alittleolfactory.com <http://www.alittleolfactory.com/>

 

 

 

Lobelia

 

 

Botanical: Lobelia inflata (LINN.)

Family: N.O. Lobeliaceae

 

---Synonyms---Rapuntium inflatum. Indian-Tobacco. Pukeweed. Asthma Weed.

Gagroot. Vomitwort. Bladderpod. Eyebright.

---Parts Used---The dried flowering herb, and seeds.

---Habitat---Dry places in the northern United States, Canada and

Kamchatka. Grown in English gardens.

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---Description---The herb is named after the botanist Matthias de Lobel,

a native of Lille, who died in London in 1616. It is an erect annual or

biennial herb, 1 to 2 feet high; lower leaves and also flower are

stalked, the latter being pale violet-blue in colour, tinted pale yellow

within. Commercially, it is usually prepared in compressed, oblong

packages, by the Shakers of New Lebanon for importation into England.

The colour is a yellowish green, the odour irritating, the taste, after

chewing, very like that of tobacco, burning and acrid, causing a flow of

saliva. The powder has a greenish colour, but that of the seeds is

brown, and stains paper with grease.

Several species are cultivated in English gardens for the splendour of

their flowers, in every shade of scarlet, purple, and blue. Lobelia

Dortmanna and L. Urens are British. The fixed oil, with constituents

rather like that of linseed oil, possesses the drying qualities common

to the fixed oils together with all the medicinal properties of the

seed.

The plant was known to the Penobscot Indians and was widely used in New

England long before the time of Samuel Thomson, who is credited with its

discovery. It was brought into general professional use by Cutler of

Massachusetts.

---Constituents---The activity of Lobelia is dependent upon a liquid

alkaloid first isolated by Proctor in 1838 and named Lobeline. Pereira

found a peculiar acid which he named Lobelic acid. Also, gum, resin,

chlorophyl, fixed oil, lignin, salts of lime and potassium, with ferric

oxide. Lobelacrine, formerly considered to be the acrid principle, is

probably lobelate of lobeline. The seeds contain a much higher

percentage of lobeline than the rest of the plant.

---Medicinal Action and Uses---Expectorant, diaphoretic, anti-asthmatic.

It should not be employed as an emetic. (Herbalists, who use lobelia far

more than the ordinary practitioners, nearly always prescribe it in

doses large enough to prove emetic, and regard it as of greater value

thus used. - EDITOR.) Some authorities attach great value to it as an

expectorant in bronchitis, others as a valuable counterirritant when

combined with other ingredients in ointment form. It is sometimes given

in convulsive and inflammatory disorders such as epilepsy, tetanus,

diphtheria and tonsilitis. There is also difference of opinion with

regard to its narcotic properties. Where relaxation of the system is

required, as, for instance, to subdue spasm, Lobelia is invaluable.

Relaxation can be counteracted by the stimulating and tonic infusion of

capsicum. It may be used as an enema.

Externally, an infusion has been found useful in ophthalmia, and the

tincture can be used as a local application for sprains, bruises, or

skin diseases, alone, or in powder combined with an equal part of

slippery elm bark and weak lye-water in a poultice. The oil of Lobelia

is valuable in tetanus. One drop of oil triturated with one scruple of

sugar, and divided into from 6 to 12 doses, is useful as an expectorant,

nauseant, sedative, and diaphoretic, when given every one or two hours.

---Preparations and Dosages---Powdered bark, 5 to 60 grains. Fluid

extract, 10 to 20 drops. Acid tincture, 1 to 4 drachms. Tincture,

U.S.P., 1 to 4 drachms. Etherial tincture, B.P., 5 to 15 drops. Syrup, 1

to 4 drachms. Solid extract, 2 to 4 grains. Oil of seed, 1 drop rubbed

up with 20 grains of ginger and divided into 6 to 12 doses. Lobelin, 1/4

to 3 grains.

Acetum Lobellae (Vinegar of Lobelia). Lobelia seed powder, 4 OZ. Diluted

acetic acid, 2 pints. Macerate in a close glass vessel for seven days,

then express the liquor, filter, and add to the filtered product

alcohol, or concentrated acetic acid, 1 fluid ounce. The whole should

measure 2 pints. This medicated vinegar may also be prepared by

percolation. It is an emetic, nauseant, and expectorant, and a valuable

relaxant in spasmodic affections. A good application in such skin

diseases as salt-rheum, erysipelas, poisoning by rhus, etc. As an

expectorant, 5 to 30 drops every half-hour in elm or flaxseed infusion.

One part of Vinegar of Lobelia to 1 part of syrup forms a pleasant

preparation for children.

---Poisonous, if any, with Antidotes---In excessive doses the effects

are those of apowerful acro-narcotic poison, producing great depression,

nausea, cold-sweats, and possibly death. (Herbalists also deny that it

has poisonous properties and that it has ever caused death. - EDITOR.)

Poisonous symptoms may occur from absorption of it through the

epidermis.

---Other Species---

L. Dortmanna. This is indigenous toGreat Britain, and is rather similar

in action to L. inflata. A tincture of the fresh plant cures headaches

and noises in the ears.

L. Erinus. A tincture of the plant has been used in cancer and has

produced absolute freedom from pain; is also used as a remedy in

syphilis.

LOBELIA, BLUE (L. Syphilitica) and LOBELIA RED (L. Cardinalia). Both

used in homeopathy. The first is diaphoretic, emetic and cathartic and

has been used in dropsy, diarrhoea, syphilis and dysentery, the root

being the part used. The Red Lobelia is said to be anthelmintic, nervine

and antispasmodic.

L. Kalmit. Said to be used by the Indians in the cure of syphilis.

L. purpurascens. A tincture of the whole plant is used in paralysis of

the lungs and tongue.

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maingreendruid [greenthumb]

Wednesday, October 23, 2002 7:52 AM

 

Searching for organically grown herb

 

Hi all of you.

Hope you're doing great.

 

I'm interested in purchasing some Indian tobacco herb (Lobelia

inflata) organically grown.

 

We're talking of a first buying of between 5 and 10 pounds of the

herbs...

The use I'm thinking to make of it? Some tincture... I want to help

others quitting tobacco.

 

Waiting for your news.

Best regards.

 

SpaNisH DrUiD

 

Stress management? Lawn by hand an entire acre of green and, after,

tell me about!

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Oh Chris, I'd love to have some too. If you make it in a tincture, does it

really help to stop smoking? This is something I haven't tried yet. I'm

such a weenie... I've tried everything to quit, but never have been able to

stick with it.

 

Leela

 

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" chrisziggy " <chrisziggy

 

Wednesday, October 23, 2002 9:57 AM

RE: Searching for organically grown herb

 

 

> Hey there Spanish Druid :-)

>

> I can get this for you organically grown - as well as get you seeds so

> you can grow it yourself if you so desire! I'll e-mail you details :-)

>

> Here is some info on the herb from Mrs.Grieves Modern Herbal (an OLD

> book)

>

> *Smile*

> Chris (list mom)

>

> http://www.alittleolfactory.com <http://www.alittleolfactory.com/>

>

[Guest guest]

Please do post your findings. There are always herbs

that I'm looking for too.

 

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[Guest guest]

I sell medicinal herbs. I can get just about anything anyone needs. My

first choice in purchasing herbs are certified organic. My supplier

practices very strict guidelines to be sure that all herbs and spices are

free of environmental contaminants and genetically modified organisms (GMOs).

Wild crafting is done so that rare and endangered species continue to

survive in their natural range. I am very picky as I use my herbs for

medicinal purposes and my spices to cook with.

 

I too need to get everything listed on my website. I am in the process of

learning Frontpage so I do the website I want and have control over it.

 

So if anyone is looking for items, just email me. I will try to put a list

together and post with permission of Chris.

 

As for the Lobelia - I can get wildcrafted in either powder or Cut and sift.

Please be careful with the Lobelia. If 1/2 to 1 teaspoon is used it will

cause violent puking as this is one of its properties and uses - most books

do not tell you this. It is great for anything respiratory and for muscle

spasms. Just watch how much you take. Also this will help you if anybody is

reporting this problem.

 

Thanks and have a wonderful day.

 

Patty Corapi

 

In a message dated 10/23/02 10:25:14 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

greenthumb writes:

 

 

> Hi all of you.

> Hope you're doing great.

>

> I'm interested in purchasing some Indian tobacco herb (Lobelia

> inflata) organically grown.

>

> We're talking of a first buying of between 5 and 10 pounds of the

> herbs...

> The use I'm thinking to make of it? Some tincture... I want to help

> others quitting tobacco.

>

> Waiting for your news.

> Best regards.

>

> SpaNisH DrUiD

>

> Stress management? Lawn by hand an entire acre of green and, after,

> tell me about!

>

>

>