Guest guest Posted August 9, 2002 Report Share Posted August 9, 2002 Hi Gang, I was hoping to find someone who would know about blood cleansers, specifically for helping cleanse the blood for ammonia build up. My hubby has liver disease and we are looking for herbs, oils, etc. to help with this problem. Any suggestions would help and would be researched further. As of right now, I have him drinking hot lemon drinks, as well as a combination of red clover and dandelion. Pau d'arco he will not drink because it tastes to bad. He has also been through a trying experience where a doctor could have killed him with the drugs that he prescribed. Another one is giving him a script now to flush out his liver, but it doesn't seem to be getting rid of the ammonia levels. Thanks in advance for any help anyone could give. Lynn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2002 Report Share Posted August 9, 2002 Lynn, Dandelion is a good one; I'm glad to see he is on that. One you probably want to think about is burdock. It is a blod purifier, liver and bowel cleanser, but so wonderfully gentle. If he is an extremely hot person, it would not be indicated for him according to Traditional . Some people really like milk thistle for liver cleansing, but it is not my favorite. I always opt for a dandelion / burdock combo. I'll post a list of foods separately that are good for the liver so he can try to eat those as well. I know that dong quai is an excellent blood purifier, but it is traditionally used for women so I don't know anything about the usage of this herb for men. Debbie deb sign up for our healthy newsletter http://www.bodyhealthcenter.com/newsletter.shtml > Hi Gang, > > I was hoping to find someone who would know about > blood cleansers, specifically for helping cleanse > the blood for ammonia build up. > > My hubby has liver disease and we are looking for > herbs, oils, etc. to help with this problem. > Any suggestions would help and would be researched > further. As of right now, I have him drinking hot > lemon drinks, as well as a combination of red clover > and dandelion. Pau d'arco he will not drink because > it tastes to bad. > > He has also been through a trying experience where > a doctor could have killed him with the drugs that > he prescribed. Another one is giving him a script > now to flush out his liver, but it doesn't seem > to be getting rid of the ammonia levels. > > Thanks in advance for any help anyone > could give. > > Lynn > > > > How To Make Rose Petal Jam - Step By Step Instructions > http://www.av-at.com/stuff/rosejam.html > > To Un send a blank e-mail to: - > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2002 Report Share Posted August 9, 2002 > My hubby has liver disease and we are looking for > herbs, oils, etc. to help with this problem. > Any suggestions would help and would be researched > further. As of right now, I have him drinking hot > lemon drinks, as well as a combination of red clover > and dandelion. Pau d'arco he will not drink because > it tastes to bad. > > Lynn > Hi Lynn, Maybe you could try iced Pau d'arco tea with honey. I used to drink it that way and it's not to bad. Actually it kind of tastes pretty good after awhile. I guess you just have to get used to it. HTH, Carol HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2002 Report Share Posted August 9, 2002 Lynn, Taking TMG (trimethylglycine) will supply the methyl donor that's missing in enzyme pathway. Rose - focus_all Thursday, August 08, 2002 5:50 PM Blood Cleanser Question Hi Gang, I was hoping to find someone who would know about blood cleansers, specifically for helping cleanse the blood for ammonia build up. My hubby has liver disease and we are looking for herbs, oils, etc. to help with this problem. Any suggestions would help and would be researched further. As of right now, I have him drinking hot lemon drinks, as well as a combination of red clover and dandelion. Pau d'arco he will not drink because it tastes to bad. He has also been through a trying experience where a doctor could have killed him with the drugs that he prescribed. Another one is giving him a script now to flush out his liver, but it doesn't seem to be getting rid of the ammonia levels. Thanks in advance for any help anyone could give. Lynn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2002 Report Share Posted August 9, 2002 , " RedWineRedRoses " <redwineredroses@e...> wrote: > Lynn, > Taking TMG (trimethylglycine) will supply the methyl donor that's missing in enzyme pathway. > Rose Hi Rose, I haven't heard of TMG before. Could you give me some information on it? Thanks, Lynn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2002 Report Share Posted August 9, 2002 , Carol <charlea_1999> wrote: > > > My hubby has liver disease and we are looking for > > herbs, oils, etc. to help with this problem. > > Any suggestions would help and would be researched > > further. As of right now, I have him drinking hot > > lemon drinks, as well as a combination of red clover > > and dandelion. Pau d'arco he will not drink because > > it tastes to bad. > > > > > Lynn > > > Hi Lynn, Maybe you could try iced Pau d'arco tea with > honey. I used to drink it that way and it's not to > bad. Actually it kind of tastes pretty good after > awhile. I guess you just have to get used to it. > HTH, Carol > > Thanks for the suggestion, it made me think maybe sweeten it with apple juice. He isn't supposed to have honey. Apparently, it clumps his blood. We had his blood analyzed by a homeopath. Unfortunately, we can't afford to go back to him, our insurance will no longer cover it. Lynn > > > HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs > http://www.hotjobs.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2002 Report Share Posted August 9, 2002 , " Debra McDuffee " <deb@b...> wrote: > Lynn, > Dandelion is a good one; I'm glad to see he is on that. One you probably > want to think about is burdock. It is a blod purifier, liver and bowel > cleanser, but so wonderfully gentle. If he is an extremely hot person, it > would not be indicated for him according to Traditional Chinese Medicine. > Some people really like milk thistle for liver cleansing, but it is not my > favorite. I always opt for a dandelion / burdock combo. I'll post a list of > foods separately that are good for the liver so he can try to eat those as > well. I know that dong quai is an excellent blood purifier, but it is > traditionally used for women so I don't know anything about the usage of > this herb for men. > > Debbie > deb@b... > sign up for our healthy newsletter > http://www.bodyhealthcenter.com/newsletter.shtml > Debbie, Thanks, I'll check out burdock. He does run kind of hot, though. Milk Thistle he has been taking on and off for a few years now. After the doctor incident, he should start on that again. Aren't there a few different burdock species? Every little bit of information helps. Thanks so much, Lynn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2002 Report Share Posted August 10, 2002 Hi Lynn, TMG is an all natural dietary supplement. Chemically it's very similar to vitamin B-15, which is DMG or dimethylglycine. It occurs naturally in both plants and animals. Most commercial TMG is extracted from beets. The supplements are usually promoted for heart health, because TMG reduces homocysteine into the essential amino acid methionine. But the methyl donors supplied by TMG are needed by every cell in the body for the synthesis of RNA & DNA, and the normal methylation required for energy production and detoxification. Liver damage is often the result of inadequate methyl donors. Infections, dietary imbalances and/or poor digestion, pharmaceuticals, alcohol consumption, medicinal herbs, genetics, chronic pain, and overexertion can all increase the need for methylation beyond the available supply of methyl donors. TMG is white, crystalline, water-soluble, tasteless and odorless. It can begin to improve liver function within minutes, because by supplying the enzyme in it's biologically active state much of the cellular energy of hepatocytes is conserved. Two other nutrients that specifically reduce ammonia quickly are the amino acid L-glutamine and AKG (alpha-Ketoglutaric Acid). Each has a slightly different mode of action so you might want to use all three temporarily if ammonia levels are dangerously high. L-glutamine is a slightly sweet white powder that can be mixed into water or juice without objection. AKG is usually sold in tablets with potassium and magnesium as potentiators. Keep in mind that huge amounts of nutrients are lost during liver dysfunction, and they'll need to be replaced in order for the liver to heal. At minimum give him a premium multi-vitamin like Source Naturals Élan Vital, flax oil, emulsified fish oil, lecithin, extra choline & inositol, high quality proteins- especially the sulfur containing amino acids (taurine, methionine and cysteine; egg yolks are the richest source), fresh raw seeds and nuts, brightly colored fruit, lightly steamed vegetables, and if you feel ambitious try making real bulgarian yogurt at home. It's much better tasting and more digestible than grocery store yogurt. If you need anything just let me know : ) Have A Beautiful Day! Rose - focus_all Friday, August 09, 2002 2:41 PM Re: Blood Cleanser Question , " RedWineRedRoses " <redwineredroses@e...> wrote: > Lynn, > Taking TMG (trimethylglycine) will supply the methyl donor that's missing in enzyme pathway. > Rose Hi Rose, I haven't heard of TMG before. Could you give me some information on it? Thanks, Lynn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2002 Report Share Posted August 11, 2002 Not sure about different species of burdock. Have you tried to run a goole search to see if different species come up? Debbie deb sign up for our healthy newsletter http://www.bodyhealthcenter.com/newsletter.shtml > Debbie, > > Thanks, I'll check out burdock. He does run kind of > hot, though. Milk Thistle he has been taking on and > off for a few years now. After the doctor incident, > he should start on that again. > > Aren't there a few different burdock species? > > Every little bit of information helps. > Thanks so much, > > Lynn > > > > > > How To Make Rose Petal Jam - Step By Step Instructions > http://www.av-at.com/stuff/rosejam.html > > To Un send a blank e-mail to: - > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2002 Report Share Posted August 11, 2002 The burdock root that is usually used for liver is Arctium lappa. Burdock also has a pleasant taste so this should help with your husband taking it. Burdock is called gobo root by the Japanese - you might see it in the market fresh by this name. But be careful as if it is not organic there could be pesticides which would make it less useful for your purposes. I do have a pleasant liver cleanse tea that you might be interested in. I can also get you the individual herbs if you want to make a blend that will be specific for your husband. If you want additional information, please feel free to contact me. Best of luck and have a wonderful day. Patty Corapi In a message dated 8/11/02 10:39:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time, focusall writes: > , " Debra McDuffee " <deb@b...> wrote: > > Not sure about different species of burdock. Have you tried to run > a goole > > search to see if different species come up? > > > > Debbie > > deb@b... > > sign up for our healthy newsletter > > http://www.bodyhealthcenter.com/newsletter.shtml > > Hi Debbie, > > I did find through some research that he > should have burdock root instead of burdock > leaf. So far, I've only seen one species. > > Thanks, > > Lynn > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2002 Report Share Posted August 12, 2002 , " Debra McDuffee " <deb@b...> wrote: > Not sure about different species of burdock. Have you tried to run a goole > search to see if different species come up? > > Debbie > deb@b... > sign up for our healthy newsletter > http://www.bodyhealthcenter.com/newsletter.shtml Hi Debbie, I did find through some research that he should have burdock root instead of burdock leaf. So far, I've only seen one species. Thanks, Lynn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2002 Report Share Posted August 12, 2002 , " RedWineRedRoses " <redwineredroses@e...> wrote: > Hi Lynn, > TMG is an all natural dietary supplement. Chemically it's very similar to vitamin B-15, which is DMG or dimethylglycine. It occurs naturally in both plants and animals. Most commercial TMG is extracted from beets. The supplements are usually promoted for heart health, because TMG reduces homocysteine into the essential amino acid methionine. But the methyl donors supplied by TMG are needed by every cell in the body for the synthesis of RNA & DNA, and the normal methylation required for energy production and detoxification. Liver damage is often the result of inadequate methyl donors. Infections, dietary imbalances and/or poor digestion, pharmaceuticals, alcohol consumption, medicinal herbs, genetics, chronic pain, and overexertion can all increase the need for methylation beyond the available supply of methyl donors. > TMG is white, crystalline, water-soluble, tasteless and odorless. It can begin to improve liver function within minutes, because by supplying the enzyme in it's biologically active state much of the cellular energy of hepatocytes is conserved. > Two other nutrients that specifically reduce ammonia quickly are the amino acid L-glutamine and AKG (alpha-Ketoglutaric Acid). Each has a slightly different mode of action so you might want to use all three temporarily if ammonia levels are dangerously high. L-glutamine is a slightly sweet white powder that can be mixed into water or juice without objection. AKG is usually sold in tablets with potassium and magnesium as potentiators. > Keep in mind that huge amounts of nutrients are lost during liver dysfunction, and they'll need to be replaced in order for the liver to heal. At minimum give him a premium multi-vitamin like Source Naturals Élan Vital, flax oil, emulsified fish oil, lecithin, extra choline & inositol, high quality proteins- especially the sulfur containing amino acids (taurine, methionine and cysteine; egg yolks are the richest source), fresh raw seeds and nuts, brightly colored fruit, lightly steamed vegetables, and if you feel ambitious try making real bulgarian yogurt at home. It's much better tasting and more digestible than grocery store yogurt. If you need anything just let me know : ) > Have A Beautiful Day! > Rose Rose, Thank you so much for the information. This will be a big help. And yes, could you post the recipe for bulgarian yogurt. Lynn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2002 Report Share Posted August 12, 2002 , PACorapi@a... wrote: > The burdock root that is usually used for liver is Arctium lappa. Burdock > also has a pleasant taste so this should help with your husband taking it. > Burdock is called gobo root by the Japanese - you might see it in the market > fresh by this name. But be careful as if it is not organic there could be > pesticides which would make it less useful for your purposes. > > I do have a pleasant liver cleanse tea that you might be interested in. I > can also get you the individual herbs if you want to make a blend that will > be specific for your husband. If you want additional information, please > feel free to contact me. > > Best of luck and have a wonderful day. > > Patty Corapi > Patty, Any information you have would be appreciated. Thanks, Lynn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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