Guest guest Posted June 12, 2002 Report Share Posted June 12, 2002 Hi all I've been sent some posts today, by a former YLer. This person would like to remain anonymous, but at the same time would like to get this information " OUT " into the world. I guess I seem to be a great contact person! ROFLMAO!!! This first lot is referring to the YL files, how CAN they have their head SO FAR BURIED? ****************************************************************************** ******************** Message: 9 Wed, 05 Jun 2002 03:30:57 -0000 " oilgodone " <hawten Gary young Files??? To all, The subject is old and has been thoroughly discussed. However, I am approving the post below only because there are many new people on JOY who need to know...Jim Dear Joy group, I finally managed to get signed up and post something. I was wondering if any one has ever done a Google search on Dr.Gary Young and found something called the YL Files? They claim that Dr.Young is a Phony. They say that he got his degree from Bernaden University a mail order diploma mill. That he uses pseudo science, pseudo religion to keep his distributors inline. That he makes false claims, recommends massive quanities of undiluted oils. That the raindrop technique has caused severe burns and blisters. Also there is a class action suit filed against Dr.young and Mary in the State of Utah. I was wondering if anyone out there that could clear up these rumors?? I personally use YL essential oils and was disturbed to see this oline. Sincerely, OilGodone, HS, CMT. Message: 19 Wed, 5 Jun 2002 11:34:20 EDT kerley983 Re: Young Living files Hi, I was looking about in other sites, and stumbled on the same thing. I think from reading some of it, that it is jealousy and even lies. I am also a skeptic who reads everything, and make up my own mind about if it is true or not. I do not think it is true, we need to use our head there is nothing under the table it is all too high profile. Think about it high profile. I do think that defamation of character is in order with it's own lawsuit. On the other hand maybe just let them rave. I do not care everything I have used of Young living has far exceeded my expectations. I care about the products, and I do not think the gentleman who makes them is stupid enough to do the things they say. I have more faith in these products than in some jealousy driven angry person trying to ruin a company who makes good products. I am much more into being able to continue to use the products. I am just thankful that I know about the oils and supplements. I have seen miracles in my family using them, and to think I have only used them for 8 months, prior to that I knew nothing about Aromatherapy and did not want to know anything, I thought it was too far out .. Sincerly sharon Message: 23 Wed, 5 Jun 2002 08:30:24 -0500 Elizabeth Re: Gary young Files??? Hi All, I am glad that the post concerning the negative comments on Dr. Young and the Young Living oils was allowed. I am also new to Young Living and I was totally shocked when one day I checked my email and found a response to a letter I wrote somebody in the aromatherapy business, cheerfully sharing my love for these oils. He attached a couple of links that contained all of the claims stated before and a lot of others. It appeared Young Living was a laughing stock being disgraced by the " knowledgeable and elite " in the field. The hostility was so over the top that it immediately cast doubt for me on the validity of it all. When people are so angry and wildly self important and self righteous becomes suspect to me. I thought about my own experience with the oils and materials from Young Living and Essential Science Publishing, and I still " feel " very positive. Yet, I find myself less enthusiastic than I was initially, still wondering, " what is the TRUTH? " I realize originality and boldness invites hostility from a world that disagrees- it is counter to the popular culture to be involed with any NATURAL healing, or to question the status quo. And, in the back of my mind I have to admit that this issue has left a stain. I am hoping that we are not left to just follow our own " noses " or instincts as that would only give us a limited perspective. What is the official response from Gary Young and Young Living on the specific claims hurled so viciously against them? I think this is important in clearing the air for all of us. the negative stuff is so readily available on the net that other we share with will also have their doubts about th company. It would be nice to have an acurate view of the " facts " . Especially the newcomers. Thanks! Elizabeth Fine Crocker Whole Life Coach Empowered Choice, Rich Fulfillment, Self-Expressed Aliveness http://www.wholelifecoach.biz http://www.wholelifeliving.biz 952-928-8810 " The authentic self is the soul made visible " - Sarah Ban Breathnach **************************************************************** This is from a Minister- Moderator- of group Wed, 5 Jun 2002 13:04:31 -0500 " LynnGroup Int'l " <lyngroup Re: Gary young Files??? On 5 Jun 2002, at 3:30, oilgodone wrote: > I finally managed to get signed up and post something. > I was wondering if any one has ever done a Google search on Dr.Gary > Young and found something called the YL Files? They claim that > Dr.Young is a Phony. To all, The Gary Young File was created by Graham Sorenson of England. He along with Marcia Elston, of Seattle, WA are the lead trumpeters of a small group of aromatherapists whose declared mission is to shut down YL. They spew their open hatred on a list much like JOY called the IDMA list. The last time I posted to the IDMA list there were some 1200 list members, many of whom were YL members. However, the IDMA list is controlled (dominated) by about two dozen people who make sure nothing good said about GY or YL remains unchallenged. What sets these people apart from most others is that they are downright mean spirited. They think nothing of tearing into the motives and character of anyone who has anything positive to say about YL. I know from personal experience, as well as some of you. Now the question is why? After going head to head with them for two years and reading their words, it is my considered opinion that it is jealousy and greed, not concern for anything else, that guides their words and actions. Understand they think of themselves as experts, and they may be. But experts or not, they are human beings filled with all that comes with being human. Those on the IDMA list who violently oppose YL are, in fact, competitors. That is they manufacture and sell their own line of essential oils. Young Living is the big fish in the aromatherapy pond that threatens their livelihood. Young Living has raised the bar of quality on essential oils, as most of you know. Few other aromatherapy companies have the where-with-all to manufacture such large quantities of oils, as YL does, and have them tested as many times. This leaves the me too and other wantabes with little ground to compete. Those who oppose YL also go into tirades wherever Raindrop procedures are discussed or brought up. They have gone so far as to enlist the aid of the National Association for Holistic Aromatherapy (NAHA) to make a pronouncement against raindrop. However, NAHA has dropped the issue. The authors of this move to have raindrop outlawed are ardent promoters against YL. Not satisfied with NAHA's decision, they are proceeding to publish a white paper against Raindrop. I would hope we all exercise our God given ability to reason for ourselves and make our own judgements, based on the records of both YL and those who oppose YL. Look at each track record. Scrutinize the spirit behind the words of each. The spirit of healing is that of love. I matters not who manufactures quality oils. But it does matter greatly the spirit behind those who would promote them. If you perceive hatred in what you read, how can that spirit heal or promote love? It cannot. The facts of life dictate that hatred is with us. As YL members who have established trust with YL's products, Gary Young, and the YL mission, know there are people out there who would delight in tearing all of this down. Look at what is being done, and how it is being done. Having said this, I will close this thread for now. I wanted our new list members to know what is going on in the real world of aromatherapy, which is why I allowed the original post. it isn't pretty. For here you will find both godly love and all manner of evil. Jim LynnGroup Int'l ******************************************************************************* ************ Cheers! Kathleen Petrides Editor: Aromatic Sage, Making Sense of Scents Issue Five comes out FRIDAY! Subscribe now at: http://www.aromaticsage.com/subscription.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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