OT: Urine therapy, both sides of the Fence

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urine therapy

Drink water from your own cistern, flowing water from your own well. (The

Book of Proverbs 5:15)

 

Urine therapy refers to one of several uses of urine to prevent or cure

sickness, to enhance beauty or to cleanse one's bowels. Most devotees drink

the midstream of their morning urine. Some prefer it straight and steaming

hot; others mix it with juice or serve it over fruit. Some prefer a couple of

urine drops mixed with a tablespoon of water applied sublingually several

times a day. Hip New Agers no doubt prefer to take their dose with their

evening salad tossed with Piss & Vinegar dressing, available at alternative

specialty shops. Some wash themselves in their own golden fluid to improve

their skin quality. Many modern Japanese women are said to engage in urine

bathing. The truly daring use their own urine as an enema. Urine is not quite

the breakfast of champions, but it is the elixir of choice of a number of

holy men in India where drinking urine has been practiced for thousands of

years. The drink is also the preferred pick-me-up for a growing number of

naturopaths and other advocates of " nature cures. " The main attractions of

this ultimate home brew are its cost, availability and portability. It is

much cheaper than that other " water of life, " whisky (uisge beatha), which

also has been hailed for its medicinal qualities. Unlike whisky, however,

urine is always available, everyone carries a supply at all times, and, for

most people, there are no intoxicating side effects. Furthermore, the urge to

overindulge is almost absent when drinking urine. The same can't be said for

good single malt such as Highland Park or a good whiskey such as Black Bush.

 

Many advocates claim that urine is a panacea. There is practically nothing it

won't cure. Urine is said to be effective against the flu, the common cold,

broken bones, toothache, dry skin, psoriasis and all other skin problems. It

is said to deter aging and is helpful with AIDS, allergies, animal and

snake bites, asthma, heart disease, hypertension, burns, cancer, chemical

intoxication, chicken pox, enteritis, constipation, and pneumonia. Urine is

said to be effective against dysentery, edema, eczema, eye irritation,

fatigue, fever, gonorrhea, gout, bloody urine, small pox, immunological

disorders, infections, infertility, baldness, insomnia, jaundice, hepatitis,

Kaposi's sarcoma, leprosy, lymphatic disorder, urticaria, morning sickness,

hangover, obesity, papilloma virus, parasitoses, gastric ulcer, rheumatism,

birth marks, stroke, congestion, lumbago, typhus, gastritis, depression,

cold sore, tuberculosis, tetanus, Parkinson's disease, foot fungus, diabetes

and other endocrine related diseases. Some enthusiasts see urine therapy as a

divine manifestation of cosmic intelligence. They use urine to unleash their

kundalini, sending it straight into the third eye, bringing instant

enlightenment.

 

With such wondrous properties, it is amazing that science bothered developing

medicine when it had the key to good health already in the bottle, so to

speak. Each of us is a walking pharmacopoeia. Homer Smith (Man and His Gods)

once wrote that " man is a machine for turning wine into urine. " Little did he

know that man is a machine for turning just about anything into a medicinal

tonic.

 

Despite the claims by authors of books on urine therapy, the scientific

evidence which would recommend that we all start drinking our own urine is

piss poor. According to urninophiles, the medical establishment has conspired

to keep us ignorant of the wonder drug we all carry in our bladders. One

self-proclaimed expert on the subject claims

 

....the medical community has already been aware of [urine's] astounding

efficacy for decades, and yet none of us has ever been told about it. Why?

Maybe they think it's too controversial. Or maybe, more accurately, there

wasn't any monetary reward for telling people what scientists know about one

of the most extraordinary natural healing elements in the world.*

 

This is a common argument from defenders of alternative therapies: the greed

of medical doctors leads them to conspire against chiropractors, chelation

therapists, etc. The evidence for this conspiracy wouldn't fill a specimen

beaker. Part of the alleged conspiracy to keep us ignorant of the wonders of

our own wee wee is the fact that many people think urine is poisonous. Urine

is generally not toxic and you will not die of uremic poisoning if you start

your day off with a cup of your own golden fluid. However, it hardly seems

fair to blame the medical establishment for the general public's ignorance on

this matter. In any case, just because something is not toxic does not mean

it is good for you. Hair is not toxic, either, and even though it might be a

good source of fiber, it is generally not desirable to put hair in food.

 

Furthermore, while it is true that some of the constituents of urine are

being used and tested for their potential or actual therapeutic value, it

does not follow that drinking one's urine is therapeutic. It may be

discovered that one of the chemicals in human urine is effective for fighting

cancer. However, drinking one's own urine is not likely going to supply

enough of any cancer fighting substance to do any good. It is also true that

some of the substances in urine are good for you. For example, if you are

ingesting more vitamin C (a water soluble vitamin) than your body needs or

can process, you will excrete it in your urine. It doesn't follow that

drinking your urine is a good way to get vitamin C into your body. An orange

or a tablet might be preferable. However, if you are urinating excess vitamin

C, what do you think your body will do with the vitamin C you ingest with

your urine? If you guessed that it would get rid of it, you guessed right.

The reason your urine contains vitamins and minerals is because your body

didn't need them or couldn't use them. You might as well pour water into a

full glass as reuptake your excess vitamins and minerals. Even urea, which

can be toxic in very high doses, occurs in such minute quantities in the

average person's urine that there is very little chance of poisoning from

drinking one's own urine.

 

The origin of this unusual practice seems to be in certain religious rites

among Hindus, where it is called amaroli in tantric religious traditions. The

tantric tradition is known for its flouting of conventional behavior as a

means of establishing the moral superiority of its practitioners. It is also

possible that this practice is related to superstitions based on sympathetic

magic. Since urine is emitted from the same bodily organ used in sex, perhaps

it was thought that by drinking one's urine one was swallowing some sort of

sexual energizer. In any case, it is unlikely that Indians some 4,000 years

ago had scientific reasons for drinking their own urine.

 

Another rather unscientific notion which seems to be accepted by urinophiles

is that urine is really blood, since it is the byproduct of blood filtering

by the kidneys. It is unlikely that if you need a blood transfusion that

urine will work just as well.

 

Another misleading claim being made by urninophiles is that amniotic fluid is

nothing but urine: fetal urine. If it is good for the fetus, it should be

good for all of us. Here is what urine expert Martha Christy has to say on

the subject:

 

.. . . the amniotic fluid that surrounds human infants in the womb is

primarily urine. Actually, the infant " breathes in " urine-filled amniotic

fluid continually, and without this fluid, the lungs don't develop. Doctors

also believe that the softness of baby skin and the ability of in-utero

infants to heal quickly without scarring after pre-birth surgery is due to

the therapeutic properties of the urine-filled amniotic fluid.

 

Some of the chemicals found in amniotic fluid are not going to be found in

most urine samples. It is misleading, to say the least, to claim that

amniotic fluid is " primarily " urine. It would be more accurate to say that

they are both primarily water. I don't know what doctors she is talking

about, but most parents will tell you that when their babies came out of the

womb their skin was anything but beautiful. Comparisons to wrinkly prunes are

quite common. So is comparison to one's skin after being in the swimming pool

for a long time. The baby's skin becomes soft only after it has been out of

its liquid environment for some time. There is a reason for that, according

to Kim Kelly, a naturopathic doctor and nurse from Seattle. Newborns don't

produce oil from their sebaceous glands until several weeks after their

birth, which is why they often appear to have dry, flaky skin. Rather than

amniotic fluid contributing to soft skin, according to Kelly, babies in the

womb are protected by vernix, a creamy substance that serves as a barrier

between the baby and the amniotic fluid. So, unless your urine is full of

vernix, using it as a skin lotion is unlikely to work as a moisturizer.

 

What is urine? Urine is usually yellow or clear, depending upon a person's

health and diet. It usually has an ammonia-like odor due to the nitrogenous

wastes that make up about 5% of the fluid (the remaining 95% is water). It is

a slightly acidic fluid which carries waste from the kidneys to the outside

world. The kidneys have millions of nephrons which filter toxins, waste,

ingested water and mineral salts out of the bloodstream. The kidneys regulate

blood acidity by excreting excessive alkaline salts when necessary. The chief

constituent of the nitrogenous wastes in urine is urea, a product of protein

decomposition. Urea is, among other things, a diuretic. Average adult urine

production is from one to two quarts a day. The bladder, where urine is

stored for discharge, holds on average about 16-20 ounces of fluid, though

the average discharge is about half that amount. In addition to uric acid,

ammonia and creatine, urine consists of many other waste products in minute

quantities.

 

Being a waste product does not mean that a substance is toxic or harmful. It

means that the body cannot absorb the substance at the present time. We might

think of many of urine's constituents as if they were leftovers from a meal.

We could throw the excess food away or we could eat it later after diluting

it substantially with water and putting it in the blender. With urine,

unfortunately, we cannot ingest waste products in the form they had when

first ingested.

 

For most people most of the time, one's own urine is not likely to be

harmful. However, it is not likely to be healthful or useful except for those

rare occasions when one is buried beneath a building or lost at sea for a

week or two. In such situations drinking one's own urine might be the

difference between life and death. As a daily tonic, there are much tastier

ways to introduce healthful products into one's blood stream.

 

Also, unfortunately not everybody can just jump right in and start drinking

their own urine without negative side effects. The Chinese Association of

Urine Therapy warns that

 

Common symptoms include diarrhea, itch, pain, fatigue, soreness of the

shoulder, fever, etc. These symptoms appear more frequently in patients

suffering long term or more serious illnesses, and symptoms may repeat

several times. Each episode may last 3-7 days, but sometimes it may last one

month, or even worse over 6 months. It is a pity that many give up urine

therapy because of such bad episode [sic]. Recovery reaction is just like

the darkness before sunrise. If one persists and overcomes the difficulty,

one can enjoy the eventual happiness of healthy life.

 

These same people advise that " All kinds of throat inflammation can be helped

by gargling with urine to which a bit of saffron has been added " and

" drinking one ounce of urine . . . is more beneficial to the average person

than a fully staffed multi-billion dollar medical center. " I was unable to

find their evidence for these claims. Perhaps the evidence was produced at

the First World Conference on Urine Therapy which took place in India In

February 1996. Or maybe it came up in 1998 during the Second World Conference

on Urine Therapy held in Germany.

 

Why do alternative therapies such as urine therapy become popular? Probably

the main reason is that they seem to work. For any popular alternative

therapy, there will always be a good number of testimonials from people who

know they work. They know this because they have tried it and it " helped " or

" cured " them of some malady. It does little good to point out to true

believers that most of their ailments would have cured themselves and gone

away had they done nothing at all to treat themselves. One's tooth pain or

facial pimples may have gone away after drinking a cup of one's golden fluid,

but that is not strong evidence that there was any causal connection between

two events. (See the post hoc fallacy.) Likewise, you are not likely to

dissuade a true believer by noting that many diseases go into remission for

unknown reasons and that just because the remission occurred after drinking

urine for a month, does not mean there is any causal connection. And you

waste your breath trying to get a true believer to consider the possibility

that to begin with they were misdiagnosed by their alternative practitioner.

Thus they were never cured because there was never anything wrong with them.

 

Probably the most common reason for the " effectiveness " of alternative

therapies is the placebo effect. Many maladies have a behavioral component,

often connected to the subjective evaluation of one's pain. Belief affects

behavior and behavior affects the body. Hence, if one believes in a therapy,

it is often the case that one will feel better, or think one feels better and

act as if one is better, even though there is no objective evidence in the

form of urine or blood tests, x-rays, etc., which would prove that one is

better. Furthermore, acting in a healthy way could cause objective,

measurable improvements. In such cases, it would be misleading to say that

the therapy was useless. However, it was not the therapy as such that led to

improvement, but one's belief in the therapy. Some might say, what difference

does it make since a cure is a cure? It might make all the difference in the

world. First, there may not have been a cure after all. Just because one's

mood improves does not mean one has been cured. Secondly, there might be a

better therapy one is avoiding by using the " alternative " therapy. Thirdly,

the relief might be temporary, while the better therapy might produce

permanent or long-term relief. Fourthly, for those who are not helped by the

alternative therapy, there might be grave consequences which could have been

avoided had they been properly treated in the first place.

 

Finally, many people who use " alternative " therapies, use them in conjunction

with traditional scientific medicine. They give credit to the " alternative "

therapy if they improve and blame traditional medicine if they do not.

[Guest guest]

LOL wow Rick, that was longer than Butch's dissertations!

 

The scripture you quoted, Proverb 5.15 'Drink water from your own cistern,

running water from your own well', is about a man getting pleasure from his own

wife, as water refreshes a thirsty man. Wells and cisterns were privately owned

and of great value. So saith the New International Version study Bible. <g>

 

It has nothing to do with urine therapy!

 

Here's to healthy skin!

 

Janine www.HerbaTherapy.com

Prosperity is simply having God in my life

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

WOW!

Great post on Urine!

My son, when I was changing his diaper peed on my hair..he go me good

that boy!

I will tell you what, my hair curled up so nice! And it just looked

great for a couple of hours..I washed it soon afterwards.

heheh!

Anastasia