Guest guest Posted June 9, 2002 Report Share Posted June 9, 2002 Hi Debbie, An old one I just found amongst the thousands in my rat nest In Box. You asked a simple question but I'm gonna use it as a springboard to take off with a long reply. It has to do with more than Russian EOs - its about systems and the ethics within those systems .. and I hope it will enlighten some folks on the whole international trade scene .. an interesting one it is. Nothing I'm writing below is racist or chavenistic .. its just the way it is in this imperfect world .. especially the world of commerce. > Has anyone ever smelled Russian Lavender eo before? Yes .. and other Russian EOs also. > How does it compare high altitude French? Its my opinion that in general, most Russian EOs are adulterated!! This is not a chauvenistic statement nor is it a slap at Russian people, its just the way it is .. systems create such situations and the Russian people are also victimized by their system. Many people in this world would shaft us if they could .. but some societies expect it and as its not frowned upon there, its not a moral issue they must deal with. Not a lot different than a Dakota brave dancing around the fire bragging on the scalps he took and the horses he stole on the last raid .. in those times, it was a norm. Today, in many countries, it is a norm to Do Unto Others Afore They Do Unto You .. and the one with the most ducats is the best business person .. matters not how they made the money. There are some Islamic countries where fanatics believe it is a holy duty to shaft infidels .. and many folks South of the Sahara haven't heard of or understand the term ethics .. its not a concept we are born with. There is one AT list in one country where a post was passed along encouraging buyers to shaft foreign sellers by claiming they had missing or broken items. The culture of this particular country is one where honor and ethics have been held in great esteem for many centuries .. and that particular post upset a lot of the folks who read it. Point is, the mentality was there. Russia notoriously thrives on Mafia induced conduct in the commercial arena! There is little incentive to produce a pure product worth maybe $150 a kilo at the still when one can extend it with synthetic linalool or linalool acetate that costs around $5 per kilo. I have many Russian friends here in Turkey and generally, they will agree with me on this. The only way to ensure one does not receive a shipment of hay when they order textiles, or rocks when they order nuts, is to go to Russia, check the product, watch them load the container and put your own numerical seal on the container. Even then, its possible to get shafted IF one of the Customs Agents at the port can be bought! When the KGB collapsed there was a vaccum in the system. Under the KGB one could only be corrupt if one had good connections. When the KGB went under, the controlling element was no longer there and the new Mafia stepped in. This is no different than Mafia operations in any country .. the Mafia does a good job of controlling in areas where the government can't contol. Most Russian Mafia members are ex-KGB Agents. This hurts Russian citizens too .. Russians are generally kind and very cautious people. The majority have a peasant mentality and world-wide we find hospitality and kindness amongst peasants. They have very good reason to be cautious because not one person in Russia has experienced an environment of trust in government or business in their lifetime. Here in Turkey .. especially along the Black Sea Coast and in Istanbul, we have " Russian Bazaars " . Its a suitcase trade .. they can sell you a Rolex for $14.95 .. the world's finest perfumes and leather goods for 10% of the cost in Europe .. Jack Daniels Black and Marlboro that even has a US Bar Code .. but all are counterfiet. Mr. Putin has a tough job ahead of him .. but being the ex-KGB Chief, he might pull it off. We tested some Russian Rose Otto once and it was more than 50% synthetic Phenyl Ethel Alcohol (but I've seen higher from another Balkan country). The Mafia has also moved into the Bulgarian Rose Otto industry. Just last week, I sold a kilo of Turkish Rose Otto to a large British company and their note said that the last lot of Bulgarian they purchased: > was a reconstructed job and we could only use it in a perfume. The Bulgarian Rose industry is suffering now. Distillers buy fewer Rose Blossoms as they know how to produce Rose Otto without roses .. so there are fewer jobs available. The workers can make more selling T-shirts on the streets and that's steady work. Companies that previously offered Bulgarian Rose Otto are now starting to offer Turkish. The cost of Rose Otto from Bulgaria is going to rise after the June harvest .. here in Turkey, the Rose Harvest is half over and we expect a larger volume of production this year because the Turkish producers have been contacted by European companies wanting to purchase Turkish Rose Otto. Can one find pure Bulgarian Rose Otto? Sure! The Mafia is not stupid enough to destroy the entire industry. Bulgaria has come a long way in a short time since the fall of the Soviet Union .. but in many regards, they have gone backwards due to inexperience with Capitalism. Bulgarian Lavender and other oils appear to NOT be under the control of the Mafia. They are harvested from privitized fields now and I've been in contact with two distillers who come across as straight-shooters. I hit them with the tough questions and they passed the exams. They have invited me to visit them and watch their production .. and I will go. This whole business of international trade of goods is something I have been involved with since I opened my company here in 1995. It was not until February 1997 I got into essential oils .. prior to that, I only traded in textiles and agricultural commodities. I learned (via a few close calls .. but no expensive lessons) which countries to ignore and which to approach with caution. I learned that some African (below the Sahara) companies can issue confirmed, irrevocable, payable at sight of documents Letters of Credit on banks that are not represented in their country .. using that bank's letter head. I learned to not deal with ANY Nigerian, Sudanese, Pakistani or Russian company .. and I learned that many Middle Eastern companies were deceptive by nature and the most honest ones were normally found in IRAN! Yep ... most Iranian folks are completely different than their government .. in fact, ask any Iranian on the street in Tehran and you'll find that most worship the ideals we take for granted and wish they could be Americans. I learned that our options as EO dealers is to buy from bulk suppliers, wholesalers or producers. Based on my location, I happen to be all three of these but there are no other folks I know of that fit all three categories. Our options in buying from these folks is to buy domestic or to import .. in fact, there are but a few wholesalers in the USA who know crap from Shinola about importing .. the word scares them a lot. It should scare them if they haven't done their homework well. Last year, a report was published on many lists involving a particular British company that had been caught selling a totally synthetic EO - a very expensive EO it was. The owner claimed that they must have made a mistake. That part is true .. whether it was an honest mistake or not is unclear. Another company offering EO in England and Canada is owned by a feller who spent 5 years in a British slammer for selling phoney EO. Has he changed his ethics? I don't know!! Those of you who are wise enough to have d to Kathleen's Aromatic Sage On-Line Mag have read the latest expose on Young Living .. on how Gary Young has and continues to knowingly sell cheap lavandin as lavender. A nice man on one list was offering samples of a Balkan Rose Otto .. I got one and thought it was nail polish remover .. smelled like Acetone .. a test showed 76% synthetic and the nice feller didn't know it. A recent co-op buy in Taiwan purchased Rose Otto at $1,200 a kilo from a French company ... it was a FO ByGawd!! You can't even PICK the roses for a kilo of Rose Otto for that price .. the labor is higher than that. Then you gotta buy the roses and pay to distill them. So its not just Russians we gotta watch. Besides knowing every distiller in Turkey, I've traveled to and visited with distillers in Tunisia, Israel and Morocco .. had phone and email conversations with some in Bulgaria, France, Egypt, Australia, China, Madagascar, Philippines, Haiti, Iran and Brazil. This summer I'll visit distillers in France and Bulgaria .. in the fall, I head to Madagascar IF I can find a plane going in .. times are rough there now and Air France is not happy about flying in due to the terrorist actions. Still ... Madagascar produces some of the world's finest EO. By this time next year, I'll be getting all or most of my EO direct from distillers I know. And I'll still test them .. just as I test those I get from Turkish distillers I've known for many years. Odds against me offering a Russian EO are great! I'll write a bit more another time on how to ensure you get what you want and what you pay for. One thing's for sure, depending on olfactory evaluation is not a good way to do it. All pure, quality EOs do NOT smell nice .. some are terrible. If you get one of those and it smells nice then you have a doctored EO. The only two reasons for adulterating an EO is to extend it .. thus, more profit .. or to make it smell nicer so folks will buy it. If someone selling EO claims to have a calibrated nose, they are lieing or fooling themselves. Trained noses are in high demand by perfumers .. and even these folks operate as a group, over a period of time, and later get together to compare notes .. meaning, even the trained noses won't agree sometimes. > Debbie > deb > http://www.bodyhealthcenter.com > Introducing http://www.bhcdecadence.com Y'all keep smiling, Butch http://www.AV-AT.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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