Guest guest Posted March 17, 2002 Report Share Posted March 17, 2002 Hello all: I have been using vitex and vitex blends in my practice for almost 2 years now. I started working with it after my sister-in-law had breast cancer (from HRT near as I can figure). So I developed a hot-flash blend for her and her sisters. The eldest had been having hot flash symptoms for several years with nothing helping. The vitex helped eliminate them. The blend is diluted with shea butter or jojoba oil. It contains several 'female oils' to include fennel, geranium and clary sage. Side effects have been decrease in osteoarthritis joint pain and increased libido. I also tell the them to avoid plastics, especially the 'water bottles' and many of the otc cleaning supplies as they have a tendency to bind estrogen receptors (maybe irreversible?). Also pesticides. The government states all these chemicals are ok...but that is another soap box I also did a vitex blend for PMS containing all the omega oils (3,6,9)as a carrier. Rubbing it on the abdomen a week before menses and during allowed for less cramps and 'broom riding.' There are two patients that have used this for documented ovarian cysts. One woman has not had any problems for the past 9 months. The other has not returned The biggest obstacle to hot flashes is long term use, i.e., 20 to 30 years and then stopping. My mother had cancer of the uterus due to HRT and was plagued with severe hot flashes. Straight vitex helped a little and Butch's vitex seemed more effective. Now my mother took 5 drops a day by mouth but I would not recommend it. After about a year and regular vitex use she is ok. Now would the flashes have vanished without the vitex? I also have another patient that has taken it by mouth and appears to have survived the transition and no longer requires it. Anyone that uses vitex is warned that it is experimental, there are no guarantees and use at your own risk. There are so many questions about vitex and no research. The previous are anecdotal at best. I have been trying to get support from OB's in the area for a 'vitex' trial but they are too concerned about losing money............... About the green goop.....It is a pain relieving cream I developed to stop the tender point pains of a patient with fibromyalgia. She was able to come off most of her pain medication, i.e., stopping vicodan and only using NSAIDS when needed. She was also able to come off her neurontin. Further use of the cream showed it worked well for just about all muscular aches and pains. Several massage therapists in the area use this cream for deep tissue work. After I sent some to NYC for CERMT, I noticed someone posted a 'blue oil blend' for deep tissue massage work. Has many of the same oils as mine at $90 an ounce. Another pain relieving cream was developed for a woman who had her knee replaced and had unending pain at the surgical site. This works well for deep joint pain. Hope this helps clear up some questions. Working with oils is great fun. Folks come in with a problem, I mix an oil and they leave happy (or come back and we tweak the blend). Dr.Chuck Oh as a warning the FDA hasn't approved any of this and do not take this as medical advice. When in doubt see your quac...er....medical professional (who know-nothing about drugs or essential oils) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2002 Report Share Posted March 18, 2002 Wow Chuck! Thanks so much for sharing!!! Also, I love your disclaimer at the end > ... here is mine ... I am not a doctor nor do I play one on t.v. *Smile* Chris (list mom) Aromatic Easter Baskets http://www.alittleolfactory.com Chuck Woodfield wrote: >Hello all: > >I have been using vitex and vitex blends in my practice for almost 2 years >now. I started working with it after my sister-in-law had breast cancer >(from HRT near as I can figure). So I developed a hot-flash blend for her >and her sisters. The eldest had been having hot flash symptoms for several >years with nothing helping. The vitex helped eliminate them. The blend is >diluted with shea butter or jojoba oil. It contains several 'female oils' >to include fennel, geranium and clary sage. Side effects have been decrease >in osteoarthritis joint pain and increased libido. I also tell the them to >avoid plastics, especially the 'water bottles' and many of the otc cleaning >supplies as they have a tendency to bind estrogen receptors (maybe >irreversible?). Also pesticides. The government states all these chemicals >are ok...but that is another soap box > >I also did a vitex blend for PMS containing all the omega oils (3,6,9)as a >carrier. Rubbing it on the abdomen a week before menses and during allowed >for less cramps and 'broom riding.' There are two patients that have used >this for documented ovarian cysts. One woman has not had any problems for >the past 9 months. The other has not returned > >The biggest obstacle to hot flashes is long term use, i.e., 20 to 30 years >and then stopping. My mother had cancer of the uterus due to HRT and was >plagued with severe hot flashes. Straight vitex helped a little and Butch's >vitex seemed more effective. Now my mother took 5 drops a day by mouth but >I would not recommend it. After about a year and regular vitex use she is >ok. Now would the flashes have vanished without the vitex? I also have >another patient that has taken it by mouth and appears to have survived the >transition and no longer requires it. Anyone that uses vitex is warned that >it is experimental, there are no guarantees and use at your own risk. There >are so many questions about vitex and no research. The previous are >anecdotal at best. I have been trying to get support from OB's in the area >for a 'vitex' trial but they are too concerned about losing >money............... > >About the green goop.....It is a pain relieving cream I developed to stop >the tender point pains of a patient with fibromyalgia. She was able to come >off most of her pain medication, i.e., stopping vicodan and only using >NSAIDS when needed. She was also able to come off her neurontin. Further >use of the cream showed it worked well for just about all muscular aches and >pains. Several massage therapists in the area use this cream for deep >tissue work. After I sent some to NYC for CERMT, I noticed someone posted a >'blue oil blend' for deep tissue massage work. Has many of the same oils as >mine at $90 an ounce. > >Another pain relieving cream was developed for a woman who had her knee >replaced and had unending pain at the surgical site. This works well for >deep joint pain. > >Hope this helps clear up some questions. Working with oils is great fun. >Folks come in with a problem, I mix an oil and they leave happy (or come >back and we tweak the blend). > >Dr.Chuck > >Oh as a warning the FDA hasn't approved any of this and do not take this as >medical advice. When in doubt see your quac...er....medical professional >(who know-nothing about drugs or essential oils) > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2002 Report Share Posted March 18, 2002 Hi Chuck: Thanks for the great post. Do you offer the 'hot flash' blend for others, too. Have order Vitex agnus castus (Chasteberry Leaf Oil) from Butch to just sniff but if you have a blend available, I would be very interested in that also. And, that 'green goop' sounds pretty darn good, too. Thanks. Blessings and love, Effie Chuck Woodfield <cwoodfield Sunday, March 17, 2002 4:28 PM Vitex and other things...... >Hello all: > >I have been using vitex and vitex blends in my practice for almost 2 years >now. I started working with it after my sister-in-law had breast cancer >(from HRT near as I can figure). So I developed a hot-flash blend for her >and her sisters. The eldest had been having hot flash symptoms for several >years with nothing helping. The vitex helped eliminate them. The blend is >diluted with shea butter or jojoba oil. It contains several 'female oils' >to include fennel, geranium and clary sage. Side effects have been decrease >in osteoarthritis joint pain and increased libido. I also tell the them to >avoid plastics, especially the 'water bottles' and many of the otc cleaning >supplies as they have a tendency to bind estrogen receptors (maybe >irreversible?). Also pesticides. The government states all these chemicals >are ok...but that is another soap box > >I also did a vitex blend for PMS containing all the omega oils (3,6,9)as a >carrier. Rubbing it on the abdomen a week before menses and during allowed >for less cramps and 'broom riding.' There are two patients that have used >this for documented ovarian cysts. One woman has not had any problems for >the past 9 months. The other has not returned > >The biggest obstacle to hot flashes is long term use, i.e., 20 to 30 years >and then stopping. My mother had cancer of the uterus due to HRT and was >plagued with severe hot flashes. Straight vitex helped a little and Butch's >vitex seemed more effective. Now my mother took 5 drops a day by mouth but >I would not recommend it. After about a year and regular vitex use she is >ok. Now would the flashes have vanished without the vitex? I also have >another patient that has taken it by mouth and appears to have survived the >transition and no longer requires it. Anyone that uses vitex is warned that >it is experimental, there are no guarantees and use at your own risk. There >are so many questions about vitex and no research. The previous are >anecdotal at best. I have been trying to get support from OB's in the area >for a 'vitex' trial but they are too concerned about losing >money............... > >About the green goop.....It is a pain relieving cream I developed to stop >the tender point pains of a patient with fibromyalgia. She was able to come >off most of her pain medication, i.e., stopping vicodan and only using >NSAIDS when needed. She was also able to come off her neurontin. Further >use of the cream showed it worked well for just about all muscular aches and >pains. Several massage therapists in the area use this cream for deep >tissue work. After I sent some to NYC for CERMT, I noticed someone posted a >'blue oil blend' for deep tissue massage work. Has many of the same oils as >mine at $90 an ounce. > >Another pain relieving cream was developed for a woman who had her knee >replaced and had unending pain at the surgical site. This works well for >deep joint pain. > >Hope this helps clear up some questions. Working with oils is great fun. >Folks come in with a problem, I mix an oil and they leave happy (or come >back and we tweak the blend). > >Dr.Chuck > >Oh as a warning the FDA hasn't approved any of this and do not take this as >medical advice. When in doubt see your quac...er....medical professional >(who know-nothing about drugs or essential oils) > > > > > >How To Make Rose Petal Jam - Step By Step Instructions >http://www.av-at.com/stuff/rosejam.html > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2002 Report Share Posted March 18, 2002 Yes Chuck, thanks from Scotland too. I wouldn't dream of asking for the recipe (!) but could you just list the actual eo's that you put in the hot flashes cream. Are there, for instance, more than Vitex, fennel, geranium and clary sage?Maybe it would help me. I'm a trained aromatherapist but sometimes it's a bit like being a plumber and never mending you own dripping tap (or as you might say , 'faucet'!) See Chris - I'm getting the hang of it:) Sometimes, when it is cold up here in th north, hot flashes (or as we call them here hot flushes) are a bonus, but most of the time they are a pain in the butt, especially when they wake me in the middle of the night Any further hints on your green gloop would also be appreciated. l'm not in for it commercially, just a few clients that use the creams I make. There's so much legislatioin here re making creams and soaps that sometimes it just doesn't seem worth it. I make what I call a 'joint gel' (speaks for itself) with Devils Claw, Meadow Sweet, Lavender and Spanish Marjoram and that goes down really well. Thanks in advance Regards Ann - Scotland > Wow Chuck! > > Thanks so much for sharing!!! > *Smile* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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