considering taking down the poll/NOT at

[Guest guest]

And the true cultist mentality comes thru. I will admit my first real intro

to Essential Oils was a big YL cult. The group is sponsored by an RN that

doesn't even know where body organs and glands are located. When I asked

her, where the thymus was, her response was between here pointing to her chin

and solar plexus. So glad she was never my nurse and had to put something in

the proper place.

 

A recent example of YL as Butch calls it bovine excrement. The Women's

Gathering that I'm working on. I told Kathy who is the one who is sponsoring

on her property that I would like to do a workshop on aromatherapy and

essential oils (this came after being at a craft show and seeing vendors

selling EO of musk, mango and strawberry). I figured I could teach someone

something if nothing else what to watch out for.

 

So Kathy tells me to get with 2 of the other ladies in the group. I casually

know one and have never met the other. So I contact the one I know by email

and said I wondered what they were doing and Kathy said to get together. I

asked them where they were getting their oils. I get the dread email with

the words Young Living in it. Please note Kathy is heavily against MLM and

didn't know what they were into. Before I could even say anything to one the

other already told her I would try to turn her against YL and Dr. Young.

Unfortunately, Kathy stayed with the one lady and the two of them ragged on

her all night. I never even when any further than the initial inquiry. At

the next meeting, when I told Kathy that I couldn't work with them, because

that was the problem eo company I came to her about when I first met her, she

told me what they had done. Which made me feel horrible as I love Kathy and

she is such a giving and caring person. This is just one of the many

insights into their thinking.

 

One thing haven't seen anyone else bring up either is the Young has never had

an original thought in all his works and teachings. He takes things from

various disciplines and methods and calls them his own. So maybe somewhere

there is a safe way to do RDT. The concept of the awaking the spine and the

gentle strokes along the spine are interesting. Please note oils are not

neat. This combined with a light massage could be wonderful. Note - I can't

imagine even curing scoliosis in one treatment which makes me thing of the

Goldie Hawn/Meryl Streep Death Becomes Her and them rebuilding. When I took

a course in anatomy and physiology and they were talking about the nerves

coming from the spine, it clicked where GY got that " brilliant and just his "

theory.

 

The other thing to remember is that when the receivers of RDT get it, if they

have a reaction they are told it is the toxins and viruses coming out of

their systems just as they're supposed to. One is almost lead to believe if

you don't have a reaction that it's not working.

 

And this one so=holuld really get you all in an uproar. The RN in question

that is running ads in local health paper is a Blue Cross and Blue Shield

provider for this remarkable techique and a car insurance compnay is paying

claims for an accident victim, becasue they convinced a phycologist how

wonderful and beneficial the treatment was. YL was going to save the world.

 

He discusses using eo on the foot, hand and ears in relation to reflexalogy

points. Note credit is never given to this art.

 

I was actually told by the same RM that Salvatore Battaglia didn't know what

he was talking about in his book The Complete Guide to Aromatherapy.

 

Well, digust that or spit it up. Talk to you all later.

 

Patty Corapi

finally got some stuff on website LOL

www.enterpriseofdreams.com

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi all

 

Well, It seems that the list that is encouraging people to go vote FOR RDT

is considering it as their own personal Forum.

 

The following comments were sent to me today:

 

" Actually, I think it's working to our advantage at this point. I just

voted, and we're in the lead, by far! I used the link below (you'll

probably have to cut and paste it) and got right in to the home page. So get

on there and vote! "

 

Obviously they have completely missed the idea of the poll.

 

Some of them are obviously thin-skinned as well. Personally I find the

following rather disturbing- It really resonates in my mind of cult

mentality:

 

" Hello all,

This attack on Dr. Young really offends me:

The very IDEA of someone dropping pure essential oils on your skin is enough

to make me sick! Especially when the people are UNtrained, their " leader "

has a fake or bought-on-the-web diploma, and basically anyone that wishes to

operate or participate in a pyramid scheme, can join! - Marilyn

 

** They do not know him, and have no right to pass judgement. YLEO a

pyramid, NOT! Please everyone, vote and leave comments.

http://www.smellennium.com/Mag.html "

 

So. I 'm beginning to think that the best thing to do is to just take down

the poll. It's obviously tainted data now, and except for the comments,

completely unusable. What I don't understand is how a simple poll turned

into an attack on YL and an endangerment to their beloved Therapy...

 

Cheers!

Kathleen Petrides

Editor: AFS

[Guest guest]

>

> So. I 'm beginning to think that the best thing to do is to just take down

> the poll. It's obviously tainted data now, and except for the comments,

> completely unusable. What I don't understand is how a simple poll turned

> into an attack on YL and an endangerment to their beloved Therapy...

>

> Cheers!

> Kathleen Petrides

> Editor: AFS

 

 

 

It is totally ridiculous, Kathleen! That organization is a group of

sick puppies with some real issues in life!

I say folks who are in the know about YL and damaged by YL's suggestions

and products should start going to the mainstream media with it!

I'd think that'd be a better way to get results than going to the FDA or

getting folks at NAHA to say boo about it.

 

*Smile*

Chris (list mom)

http://www.alittleolfactory.com

 

>

[Guest guest]

Hey Kathleen?

 

Ya think it's cuz it's a cult??? BTW, that " Marilyn " was me! <grinz> But yanno..

could be if we all knew MR. Gary Young.. we'd see what a sweet guy he really

is? ROFL Heck, leave it there... let 'em have some fun with it. They're only

showing their true cult-colors. Besides, what poll isn't tainted? You " could "

write an article or have someone write it........for the next magazine on cults

too...........hhhhhmm.. interesting idea....... Don't let 'em get to

you........

 

Hugs and another for good measure,

 

Marilyn

 

Kathleen Petrides wrote:

 

> Hi all

>

> Well, It seems that the list that is encouraging people to go vote FOR RDT

> is considering it as their own personal Forum.

>

> The following comments were sent to me today:

>

> " Actually, I think it's working to our advantage at this point. I just

> voted, and we're in the lead, by far! I used the link below (you'll

> probably have to cut and paste it) and got right in to the home page. So get

> on there and vote! "

>

> Obviously they have completely missed the idea of the poll.

>

> Some of them are obviously thin-skinned as well. Personally I find the

> following rather disturbing- It really resonates in my mind of cult

> mentality:

>

> " Hello all,

> This attack on Dr. Young really offends me:

> The very IDEA of someone dropping pure essential oils on your skin is enough

> to make me sick! Especially when the people are UNtrained, their " leader "

> has a fake or bought-on-the-web diploma, and basically anyone that wishes to

> operate or participate in a pyramid scheme, can join! - Marilyn

>

> ** They do not know him, and have no right to pass judgement. YLEO a

> pyramid, NOT! Please everyone, vote and leave comments.

> http://www.smellennium.com/Mag.html "

>

> So. I 'm beginning to think that the best thing to do is to just take down

> the poll. It's obviously tainted data now, and except for the comments,

> completely unusable. What I don't understand is how a simple poll turned

> into an attack on YL and an endangerment to their beloved Therapy...

>

> Cheers!

> Kathleen Petrides

> Editor: AFS

>

>

> How To Make Rose Petal Jam - Step By Step Instructions

> http://www.av-at.com/stuff/rosejam.html

>

>

[Guest guest]

hey Chris,

 

Well, If you look at the comments that these devout YLers are coming out

with, they are just shooting themselves in the foot.

 

One has been using oils on their kids since they were two, another uses them

on her 6 year old, they insist on calling HIM DR, their oils are ingested

neat, applied neat, they are bastardizing the french technique of using

oils, saying that the french do it this way or that way, but no one is

saying how that in France E.O.'s are only prescribed by doctors etc. They

really ARE digging their own grave.

 

Which is the only reason I haven't taken the poll down yet. How deep are

they willing to dig themselves in?

 

Cheers!

Kathleen Petrides

Editor: AFS

 

-

" Chris Ziegler " <chrisziggy1

 

Tuesday, February 12, 2002 11:31 AM

Re: considering taking down the poll/NOT at

 

 

> >

> > So. I 'm beginning to think that the best thing to do is to just take

down

> > the poll. It's obviously tainted data now, and except for the comments,

> > completely unusable. What I don't understand is how a simple poll turned

> > into an attack on YL and an endangerment to their beloved Therapy...

> >

> > Cheers!

> > Kathleen Petrides

> > Editor: AFS

>

>

>

> It is totally ridiculous, Kathleen! That organization is a group of

> sick puppies with some real issues in life!

> I say folks who are in the know about YL and damaged by YL's suggestions

> and products should start going to the mainstream media with it!

> I'd think that'd be a better way to get results than going to the FDA or

> getting folks at NAHA to say boo about it.

>

> *Smile*

> Chris (list mom)

> http://www.alittleolfactory.com

>

> >

>

>

>

>

> How To Make Rose Petal Jam - Step By Step Instructions

> http://www.av-at.com/stuff/rosejam.html

>

>

[Guest guest]

Way ahead of you Marilyn :-). Too bad the YLers won't be able to see the

results of their poll, not one of them has subcribed, so the poor suckers

won't know the results of all their hard work! LOL

 

Cheers!

Kathleen Petrides

Editor: AFS

 

-

" Marilyn Nicholson " <menicholson7

 

Tuesday, February 12, 2002 11:32 AM

Re: considering taking down the poll/NOT at

 

 

> Hey Kathleen?

>

> Ya think it's cuz it's a cult??? BTW, that " Marilyn " was me! <grinz> But

yanno..

> could be if we all knew MR. Gary Young.. we'd see what a sweet guy he

really

> is? ROFL Heck, leave it there... let 'em have some fun with it. They're

only

> showing their true cult-colors. Besides, what poll isn't tainted? You

" could "

> write an article or have someone write it........for the next magazine on

cults

> too...........hhhhhmm.. interesting idea....... Don't let 'em get to

> you........

>

> Hugs and another for good measure,

>

> Marilyn

>

> Kathleen Petrides wrote:

>

> > Hi all

> >

> > Well, It seems that the list that is encouraging people to go vote FOR

RDT

> > is considering it as their own personal Forum.

> >

> > The following comments were sent to me today:

> >

> > " Actually, I think it's working to our advantage at this point. I just

> > voted, and we're in the lead, by far! I used the link below (you'll

> > probably have to cut and paste it) and got right in to the home page. So

get

> > on there and vote! "

> >

> > Obviously they have completely missed the idea of the poll.

> >

> > Some of them are obviously thin-skinned as well. Personally I find the

> > following rather disturbing- It really resonates in my mind of cult

> > mentality:

> >

> > " Hello all,

> > This attack on Dr. Young really offends me:

> > The very IDEA of someone dropping pure essential oils on your skin is

enough

> > to make me sick! Especially when the people are UNtrained, their

" leader "

> > has a fake or bought-on-the-web diploma, and basically anyone that

wishes to

> > operate or participate in a pyramid scheme, can join! - Marilyn

> >

> > ** They do not know him, and have no right to pass judgement. YLEO a

> > pyramid, NOT! Please everyone, vote and leave comments.

> > http://www.smellennium.com/Mag.html "

> >

> > So. I 'm beginning to think that the best thing to do is to just take

down

> > the poll. It's obviously tainted data now, and except for the comments,

> > completely unusable. What I don't understand is how a simple poll turned

> > into an attack on YL and an endangerment to their beloved Therapy...

> >

> > Cheers!

> > Kathleen Petrides

> > Editor: AFS

> >

> >

> > How To Make Rose Petal Jam - Step By Step Instructions

> > http://www.av-at.com/stuff/rosejam.html

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Kathleen!!!!!

 

<Shocked look!!!!> None of them d??? I am amazed! ROFLMAO - thinking

I'd put " that " in the next article as well as the redundancy of the junk they're

spitting out, errrrrr.. spurting.., sputtering? Whatever. Heck, let em vote away

and comment to their little stupid cultist heart's content, none of them are

making a damned bit of sense anyways! LOL

Chris, the media's a GREAT idea!!!!!!!!

 

Hugs,

 

Marilyn

 

Kathleen Petrides wrote:

 

> Way ahead of you Marilyn :-). Too bad the YLers won't be able to see the

> results of their poll, not one of them has subcribed, so the poor suckers

> won't know the results of all their hard work! LOL

>

> Cheers!

> Kathleen Petrides

> Editor: AFS

>

[Guest guest]

At 11:26 AM 02/12/2002 -0800, Kathleen Petrides wrote:

 

>What I don't understand is how a simple poll turned into an attack on YL

>and an endangerment to their beloved Therapy...

 

Oh I can explain that one easy enough. That's how cult mentality works. :-)

 

-- Sandy