hara diagnosis [was Emotions

[Guest guest]

Hi Penel,

> Regarding hara diagnosis, I don't understand your question.

>

> In the shiatsu tradition we two study the object is to find which of

> the Elements the client is most jitsu (excess) and most kyo

> (deficient). One can attempt to sedate the most jitsu but the most

>effective method suggested by Masunaga is to attempt to tonify the

>most kyo.

 

It may be possible to feel the " relative relationships " between the

elements within the client/patient's body. However, I am a bit

skeptical since I have found that the " touch " (and sometimes it is

much more than a touch) of the practitioner often (probably always)

evokes a response - which may (probably is) different than the

client/patient would naturally be when " not touched " .

 

In other words, the act of " touching " immediately changes the

condition from what it was before the client/patient was touched.

The efficacy and reliability of " diagnosis " is an interesting subject

all on his own.

 

Regards,

Rich

[Guest guest]

Having worked through more sophisticated interpretations of abdominal

diagnosis

I have found it pragmatically useful to stay with the original one based on

Nei Ching,

or at least the one which is more simple:

 

On Ren:

From Ren 15 to Ren 2 supero-inferiorly:

HT - ST - SP - [K - Ren 8 in the umbilicus - K] - SP - K - BL.

 

All of Rt abdomen - LU; all of Lt abdomen - LV.

 

I've found the raised-indurated-gummy-hard-cordlike indicators more

pertinent

than hollowed-emptied-soft ones to match to treatment points.

 

Oddly the HT markers at Ren 15 and 14 are often hard, but dissipate more

quickly than the comparatively softer ones at ST and SP and BL areas.

 

A notoriously stubborn marker is the 'pencil' lying athwart ST area which

refuses

to budge, as though it's cousin the SP is calling the shots in terms of Damp

retiscence. This area is less often hollowed.

 

The K area from Ren 5.5 to Ren 3 is almost always hollowed, and never or

hardly

even indurated or raised.

 

The Rt and Lt abdomen I take as a whole and not by the Toyohari or by Zhang

organ

distribution and call LU and LV indicators.

 

I always look for Matsumoto's LV and LU Stagnation points at ST 27 on both

sides,

this is approximate, she is far more astute in looking for things. And as

often find these.

 

By and large anything on lateral aspects of abdomen does not figure in the

classical

hara; whatever found being ascribed more to a Dai mess up than anything

else.

 

I do get by with releases a fair amount of time, and back up the findings

with pulse changes, I am an incorrigible pulse beast.

 

As often the tongue is a good indicator of a release.

 

The one illness this delicately effective approach does not help, at least

with me,

is migraine, for which I use a conventional approach, with some

manipulation.

 

At no time does any needle settle in more than 0.1 mm.

 

Would love feedback.

 

Dr. Holmes Keikobad

MB BS DPH Ret. DIP AC NCCAOM LIC AC CO & AZ

www.acu-free.com - 15 CEUS by video.

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