Guest guest Posted September 19, 2004 Report Share Posted September 19, 2004 Hi Sagiv, & All, Sagiv, many congratulations on your paper to IVAS on clinical uses of medicinal leeches (Hirudo medicinalis]. Thanks also for the great photographs of leech-therapy in FIV cats. Please email me any manuscript that you want to submit to Web Journal of Acupuncture. Successful leech use on the tongues of FIV cats! Man, THAT is wierd!, especially that the leeches seem to " know " the correct tongue acupoints to suck! Two queries re haematoma. You have been using Yunnan Baiyao in haematoma for 6 years, but in the past 2 years use leeches. (a) Does this mean that in YOUR experience leeches are BETTER than Yunnan Baiyao in haematoma? (b) Do you use Yunnan Baiyao in haematoma NOW, alone or with the leeches? Another thought: Do you think that Hirudo could help to diagnose Channel imbalances? I had this crazy idea: 1. Immerse the HANDS and FEET of a subject to be diagnosed in containers that hold several leeches each. 2. Observe the locations that attract the leeches and see if they correlate with acupoints that might help the problem PS: Could lab-raised [pathogen-free] mosquitos be used for the same purpose? I have heard [but know of no scientific proof] that mosquitos tend to bite parts of the body that " attract " them. Could these parts be " reactive " acupoints? If so, could this indicate the points & channels that need balancing? Sagiv [ & other Jewish colleagues], SHANA TOVA to you and your family, Phil >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sagiv wrote: > I am using Yunnan Paiyao in K-9 aural hematoma for circa 6 years, > mainly due to my total disagreement with what we got in vet college > ( doing Sx ). > ... [About 2 years ago, Rachel & I] found another method ... > Hirudotherapy. A huge dog with a severe heart condition and huge > aural hematoma =all the ear, what can we do? Sedation is not an > option ! We calmed the dog (petting him), put 4 medical leeches > (Hirudo medicinalis). They sucked all the blood, no pain (part of > the anesthetic chemical produce by the leeches), no antibiotics > (they secrete bacteriostatic fluids). If you are after TCM, > they will go to the EXCESS aural pts, so you can work your way back > by KO cycle to DEFICIENCY, and Rx accordingly (acu', herbs), and > guess what ? since June 2004 FDA claimed it is not CAM, just plain > good " western medicine " ( " leeches are medical devices " ). > Part of my lecture in IVAS Congress was about this issue, and the > way I saw it, or other approaches suggested by me in the lecture: " > these efforts are done in order to expand our horizon for animal > healthcare, to give us and animals more options " . I did not get > too many " bravo " to my " kind of stupid efforts " , but I am still > trying to convince you guys to go another step forward...(like the > coral skeleton implantation we are doing for the last 10 years or > so in wild birds with broken bones, all in order to allow them to > join their flocks in 10-14 days and fly back to Africa or Europe). > Yes, it a new year here in Israel, so I allow myself to be " a bit > stupid " ... Love you guys & SHANA TOVA) Jewish Happy New Year). > Sagiv. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards, Email: < WORK : Teagasc Research Management, Sandymount Ave., Dublin 4, Ireland Mobile: 353-; [in the Republic: 0] HOME : 1 Esker Lawns, Lucan, Dublin, Ireland Tel : 353-; [in the Republic: 0] WWW : http://homepage.eircom.net/~progers/searchap.htm Chinese Proverb: " Man who says it can't be done, should not interrupt man doing it " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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