Jing

[Guest guest]

, " Dean Militello "

<windwater5> wrote:

 

> he assured me he had already discovered. Anyone else have any sex

as it pertains to cm patterns stories?

>

 

From my own personal experience, regardless of what kind of " sick " I

was feeling (upset stomach, gan mao, just plain tiredness, bad mood,

etc.) I always felt better after sex, even after multiple times in a

day. It has always served to " make things better " for me. I would

imagine that this is so because even though I do show some signs of

vacuity (mostly SP), I also show signs of various yu zheng (depression

patterns) - qi, damp-phlegm. I have never once felt fatigued because

of sex.

 

Brian C. Allen

[Guest guest]

what is your age?

 

(smiley face here)

 

doug

 

I have never once felt fatigued because

> of sex.

>

> Brian C. Allen

[Guest guest]

, " "

wrote:

> what is your age?

>

> (smiley face here)

>

 

I am 34.

 

Brian C. Allen

[Guest guest]

I remember 34 well.

:-)

doug

> > what is your age?

> >

> > (smiley face here)

> >

>

> I am 34.

>

> Brian C. Allen

[Guest guest]

Dear all,

I have, through many years, been doing exactly what Dean asks.

The results have been like this; if the two people love each other I have found

no depletion of Qi at all. If the woman does not love the man, she has been

depleted of Heart-Qi. If the man does it just for the sex, his Liver-Qi is often

depleted together with some Heart-Qi. If the man does it without love, and too

fast, his Spleen-Qi is depleted.

May be in China, where marriages often were without love, may be the pattern was

different than today?

 

Are

 

Are Simeon Thoresen

arethore

http://home.online.no/~arethore/

 

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Dean Militello

Thursday, January 29, 2004 7:21 PM

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Jason, Brian, Z'ev, and all,

 

The effects of sex are likely one of histories more contraversial topics. Add

to that that this discussion has focused on jing depletion, which seems to be

difficult to assess in the short term, and this discussion could go on for ever

without resolve. So, it occured to me that it could be useful clinically to

focus this discussion on a few points, such as, if your patient comes in and

says that he met a new lover and has been having sex and ejaculating 6x per day

for the last week, could you diagnosis jing depletion? how? or would he be

likely to exhibit an effect consistent with his constitution? i.e. if he were

spleen qi xu he might be more fatiqued? if liver depression perhaps he feels

invigorated, etc. point being that we should be able to guide individual

patients to how much is enough, no? I recently had a patient that complained

that he has recently experienced insomnia on nights when he has ejaculated more

than once. He sleeps fine if the sex happens earlier in t!

he day. looks to me like heart and kidneys bu jiao, i prescribed a formula

accordingly and told him that it would best if he avoided ejaculating to the

point of insomnia, something that he assured me he had already discovered.

Anyone else have any sex as it pertains to cm patterns stories?

 

 

Dean

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi all,

 

I really like what Dr. Yang, Jwing-Ming writes on the subject of Jing.

In fact, I really like everything he writes (though at times I may

personally disagree). He is very well studied. On Jing he writes:

 

" Jing means " the essence: or the " essentials " . When Jing is used as

" essence " , it exists in everything. Jing may be considered the primal

substance or original source from which a thing is made, and which

exhibits the true nature of that thing. When Jin is used in reference

to animals or humans, it means the very original and essential source

of life and growth. This Jing is the origin of the Shen (spirit)

[Note: this is one point that I might disagree with Dr. Yang] which

makes an animal different from a tree. In humans, Jing is passed down

from the parents. Sperm is called " Jing Zi " which means " the sons of

essence. " When this essence is mixed with the mother's Jing (egg), a

new life is generated which is, in certain fundamental respects, an

intertwining of the Jings of both parents; The child is formed, the Qi

ciruculates, and the Shen grows. The JIng whcih has been carreid over

from the parents is called " Yuan Jing " , which means " Original Essence " .

 

" Once you are born, Original Jing is the fountainhear ad root of your

life. It is what enables you to grow stronger and bigger. " " In Qigong

training, knowing how to conserve and firm your Original Jing is of

primary importance. For example, if you overindulge in sexual

activity, you will lose your Original Jing faster than other people

and your body will degenerate faster. " " Remember,that Original JIng is

like the principal in your savings account in that iti is an original

investment which wil continue to return interest as long as it is

conserved. Jing can produce Qi, so if you handle your Jing carefully

[Note, I do not personally care for the word " carefully " in this

context], you willl continue to have Jing and Qi. However, if you

abuse yourself with an unhealthy lifestyle, you may damage and reduce

your original Jing. [Note: Dr. Yang uses the word " may " here].

 

" Please understand that the Chinese doctors and Qigong practitioners

are not saying that in order to conserve your Jing, you must stop your

sexual activity completely. As a matter of fact, they encourage the

proper amount of sexual activity believing that it will energize and

activate the Jing, which makes the Jing-Qi conversion more efficient.

In addition, the proper amount of secual activity wil energize the Qi

so that it nourishes the Shen (spirit). This will help you stay

mentally balanced, and raise your Shen. It is very important to keep

your Shen raised, otherwise it will tend to get depressed and will be

afraid to face life. "

 

" According to Qigong, the JIng which resides in the external kidneys

is the main source of the Qi which fills up the four major Qi vessels

in the legs. These four Qi reservoirs (vessels) keep the legs strong

and healthy. Therefore, if you feel that your legs are weak due to the

amount of sexual acitivity, you have lost too much of your Jing. "

 

Basically everyone has enough Jing to live a life, but the quality and

quantity vary. That is what makes us human. Men and women use their

Jing differently. Men use more during ejaculation. Women during

menstruation and child-birth. We are all different, which is why I

believe we (ourselves) are the final authority on " what is good for

me " . The more we know ourselves (Awareness), the better we can direct

(Intent) or lives and avoid very unpleasent events. Like a captain

sailing on the ocean. :-)

 

Hope others found Dr. Yang's discussion as interesting as I did.

 

Regards,

Rich