RE: Art of the bedchamber

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Agree with Brian 100% here. I got heavily into conserving Jing through

" withholding " techniques in my early 20's when told by my first

acupuncturist that I needed to. Read some Mantauk Chia, who scared the crap

out of me, and I began counting how many times I ejaculated, how many

motions this way and that during sex, and nearly ruined my relationship with

my fiancée. It can be an extremely selfish way of going about lovemaking,

and as a man you start to view the opposite sex as vampires, trying to steal

your vital essence. I have some friends from CM school who also went through

this, and some still feel this way about women.

It was not until I read " the Tao of Love and Sex " (forget the author) that

my relationship healed completely and I was able to share in lovemaking

while still remaining relatively healthy after sex. The book emphasizes the

couples aspect and doesn't stress the numerical, nearly obsessive compulsive

practices of Chia. Basically, your shen will be more harmed by turning into

a fearful partner more than your Jing will be lost by ejaculating.

 

Benjamin Hawes, MAOM, Lic. Ac.,

 

CORTEZ FAMILY ACUPUNCTURE

1430 E. Main Street, Suite #4

Cortez, CO 81321

(970) 565-0230

 

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> Thu, 09 Sep 2004 16:23:29 -0000

> " briansbeard " <brian_s_beard

> Re: Is it necessary to Conserve Jing?

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> From what I've read on the taoist art of bedchamber, these people

> really went to some length with their sexual practices, even as far

> as being able to empty a glass of water by sucking the water through

> their penis into their bladder, hanging weights from the testicles,

> or extracting the essence from another person to enhance their jing,

> etc.

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> At some point it seemed that they really missed the point here.

> There's no mention of having a happy, healthy sexual relationship

> with another human being. Instead it becomes how to enhance your own

> health, even at the expense of another person's.

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> I used to be really intrigued with these ideas, but as time goes on

> I've become more disillusioned that it ends up being a somewhat

> chauvenistic, self centered approach to health and ends up putting a

> division between the sexes instead of becoming a way to integrate

> them and make life better in that way.

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> Have you noticed that there are no women participating in this

> discussion? But do you think women are any less affected by becoming

> drained from too much sex? They have the same issues as men, but

> this issue never seems to get any attention. You can see this by

> looking at how people age who are involved in the sex industry over a

> long period of time.

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> I once had a patient who was 69 years old and had sex and ejaculated

> every day. He was very energetic and looked 10 years younger than he

> was. It would seem he was born with " an extra bag of jing " as one of

> my former instructors used to say, and I as far as I can tell he

> doesn't need advice to cut back. On the other hand there are people

> in their 30's who are tired afterwards and should probably adhere to

> the day per decade rule, i.e., sex once every 4 days if you're 40,

> etc.

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> --brian

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