Guest guest Posted September 8, 2004 Report Share Posted September 8, 2004 Hi Attillo, thanks for the compliment! thankyou for the tidbit on saggy chins:)does plum blossom needle really make that much of a difference? i believe there is a hatha yoga exercise where your slap your underchin silly. (childhood memory) remember my mom doing this daily:)seems like a simular concept. seriously though,how are the results? the electro-scupuncture stimulator is a 4c. Pro and is manufactured by Pantheon Research. you can find them easily on the internet. cost is around $300. there are more expensive models that offer a timer, and the micro-current also, but this one works good for stubborn pain, on children, animals and also with face-lift acu. all the best, M. Myers acudocweb.tripod.com Message: 1 Tue, 7 Sep 2004 12:48:18 +0100 " Attilio D'Alberto " <attiliodalberto RE: Digest Number 635,face lift Hi Myers, Great post. Can you give the make and model of the electro-stem machine please. There was a great article on facial rejuvenation in the JCM a few issues back. A good read. In there it was mentioned that the needles are inserted into typical acupoints on the face. Also plum-blossom needling can be used for the saggy bits, i.e. under the chin. However, I was unaware that each and every wrinkle had to have a needle in it. Can anyone talk about the principle of facial rejuvenation a little more? Kind regards Attilio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2004 Report Share Posted September 8, 2004 Hi Attillio, >Can anyone talk about the >principle of facial rejuvenation a little more? >Kind regards >Attilio Qigong and Chinese health principles are very simple and very synergistic with the general model of health that I have outlined in past posts. Basically, the skin ages when there is insufficient nourishment - i.e. qi and blood. It can be caused by various " blockages " , e.g. blockages in the upper verterbrae or tension in the mind. One activity which I do every day is a simple " qi washing " where I warm up my hands by rubbing them together and bringing qi to the surface and then " washing " my face as I would do with water. I do this for the whole body. It keeps the skin soft by warming and moving the qi that is below the surface. Of course, relaxing exercises help a lot also. You might have noticed how young look Chinese people look in China. Hundreds of millions of people practice these simple " norishing " exercises. It is all quite good and keeps one looking and feeling young. Regards, Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 Hi Rich, Good technique. But I can't say I saw anyone use it in China. However, what I did see was them massaging their kidneys, legs and arms. This is practiced every morning by the older generation. Kind regards Attilio You might have noticed how young look Chinese people look in China. Hundreds of millions of people practice these simple " norishing " exercises. It is all quite good and keeps one looking and feeling young. Regards, Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 Hi Attilio, > Hi Rich, > Good technique. But I can't say I saw anyone use it in China. >However, what I did see was them massaging their kidneys, legs and arms. This is practiced every morning by the older generation. > > Kind regards > > Attilio Yes, this is very basic and is usually part of any qigong " routine " . That is to get the blood and qi circulation going in the kidneys (the root) and the extremities. Similar techniques can be applied to the face, the head, the eyes, the fingers, the chest area, etc. Like oil in a car, the physical, energetic, and spiritual body (blood, qi, shen) was designed to move, so the more we move, the more the " oil " of our system can be " warmed " and be in a position to nourish and cleanse our body. It is a very simple paradigm for long and good health. I am always interested in any other observations you have concerning the daily life in China. Particularly the differences you may have noticed between the cities and countryside. Thanks again for your insights. Regards, Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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