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Does anyone have experience treating paraplegia. The accident

occured 12 months ago and the patient is on multiple pain relieving

drugs including methadone. He wants to reduce the oral meds that he

is taking. He also has a shunt/pump.

 

With all the pain relieving meds I get the feeling that any

acupuncture effect will be greatly diminished.

 

Any thoughts and input??

 

Kayte Halstead

Acupuncture 4 Health

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Kayte-

Without knowing anything else, I can recommend doing

the Japanese adrenal tx. The 4 and 8 o'clock points on

the navel should be tender. The tx is: Kd 9, K 27 for

detox patients, Kd 7 , Kd 27 for all other types of

adrenal weakness. This will strengthen the adrenals,

which are beat up whenever heavy meds like methadone

are taken. The person should become a bit " clearer, "

also.

Beware, sometimes taking heavy meds actually MASKS

signs and symptoms of illnesses which would normally

be readily detected.

John G.

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> Does anyone have experience treating paraplegia.

> The accident

> occured 12 months ago and the patient is on multiple

> pain relieving

> drugs including methadone. He wants to reduce the

> oral meds that he

> is taking. He also has a shunt/pump.

>

> With all the pain relieving meds I get the feeling

> that any

> acupuncture effect will be greatly diminished.

>

> Any thoughts and input??

>

> Kayte Halstead

> Acupuncture 4 Health

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Hi Kayte,

I only have a few seconds online right now but the essence of treatment ( i get

referals from Swedish Hospital and Craig Rehab the two local hospitals for about

4 spinal injury patients a year) is to support the Kidneys, Nourish the Center,

Build the Ch'i and move Stagnation.

I use a lot of needles when treating most Spinal injuries but will write ASAP

with specifics if you wish.

Doc

 

acupuncture4health <acupuncture4health wrote:

Does anyone have experience treating paraplegia. The accident

occured 12 months ago and the patient is on multiple pain relieving

drugs including methadone. He wants to reduce the oral meds that he

is taking. He also has a shunt/pump.

 

With all the pain relieving meds I get the feeling that any

acupuncture effect will be greatly diminished.

 

Any thoughts and input??

 

Kayte Halstead

Acupuncture 4 Health

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Kayte,

 

> Does anyone have experience treating paraplegia.

 

Yes, but in dogs only ... Acupuncture is excellent in paraplegic

dogs (circa 85% success in 25-40 days) in disc disease, Grade 3,

but much less effective (circa 30% success in 60-80 days) in disc

disease Grade 4 (absence of deep-pain sensation on clamping the

toes).

 

> The accident occurred 12 months ago and the patient is on multiple

> pain relieving drugs including methadone. He wants to reduce the

> oral meds that he is taking. He also has a shunt/pump. With all

> the pain relieving meds I get the feeling that any acupuncture

> effect will be greatly diminished. Any thoughts and input?? Kayte

> Halstead Acupuncture 4 Health

 

Tough case! It is worth a try unless the spinal cord is badly

severed/compressed.

 

I would try acupuncture at BL11 + BL62 + SI03.

 

I would add points from: points cranial to (say BL18, or 19, or 20),

and caudal to the lesion (say BL21, or 22, or 23).

 

Also, ST36 + SP06 + LI04 + LU07, bilateral, + earpoint Shenmen.

Consider Scalp acupuncture for the affected areas / functions.

 

Select 6-12 points/session. It may require many sessions, 1-2

times/week. If there is no response within 1 month, I would quit.

 

PS: Paralysis / paraplegia is a good indication (one of the few,

IMO) for electro-AP.

 

Best regards,

 

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Hi All, & John,

 

John Garbarini wrote:

 

> Kayte- Without knowing anything else, I can recommend doing the

> Japanese adrenal tx. The 4 and 8 o'clock points on the navel

> should be tender. The tx is: KI09, KI27 for detox patients, KI07,

> KI27 for all other types of adrenal weakness. This will strengthen

> the adrenals, which are beat up whenever heavy meds like methadone

> are taken. The person should become a bit " clearer, " also. Beware,

> sometimes taking heavy meds actually MASKS signs and symptoms of

> illnesses which would normally be readily detected. John G.

 

John, is your adrenal tx protocol only applicable where you suspect

exhausted adrenals and a lower thoracic/upper lumbar lesion, or do

you use it in all paraplegics?

 

 

Best regards,

 

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WORK : Teagasc Research Management, Sandymount Ave., Dublin 4, Ireland

Mobile: 353-; [in the Republic: 0]

 

HOME : 1 Esker Lawns, Lucan, Dublin, Ireland

Tel : 353-; [in the Republic: 0]

WWW : http://homepage.eircom.net/~progers/searchap.htm

 

Chinese Proverb: " Man who says it can't be done, should not interrupt man doing

it "

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Thanks Phil, John et al - Specifics would be useful - I had figured

on supporting the adrenals but appreciate the detox protocol - Based

on 2x weekly treatments for 1 month - wold you recommend detox every

time to start. Then build nourish and move. I tend to favor moxa

(direct) for St 36 - will this still be effective with L Jiao

paraplegia?

 

kayte

 

 

Chinese Medicine , " "

<@e...> wrote:

> Hi All, & Doc,

>

> Doc wrote:

> > Hi Kayte, I get referals from Swedish Hospital and Craig Rehab the

> > two local hospitals for about 4 spinal injury patients a year. The

> > essence of treatment is to Support KI, Nourish the Center, Build

> > Qi and Move Stag. I use a lot of needles when treating most Spinal

> > injuries but will write ASAP with specifics if you wish. Doc

>

> Doc, I would be interested in the details of your protocols -

points

> and methods used, session duration, inter-session intervals,

> clinical outcomes and interval from start of therapy until

significant

> clinical improvement is seen.

>

>

> Best regards,

>

> Email: <@e...>

>

> WORK : Teagasc Research Management, Sandymount Ave., Dublin 4,

Ireland

> Mobile: 353-; [in the Republic: 0]

>

> HOME : 1 Esker Lawns, Lucan, Dublin, Ireland

> Tel : 353-; [in the Republic: 0]

> WWW : http://homepage.eircom.net/~progers/searchap.htm

>

> Chinese Proverb: " Man who says it can't be done, should not

interrupt man doing it "

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Hi Kayte,

 

> I tend to favor moxa (direct) for St 36 - will this still be

> effective with L Jiao paraplegia? kayte

 

IMO, if there is no feeling of needling at ST36 (or other points on

the lower limbs), you might consider changing to mirror points on

the upper limb, plus ear- and scalp- points.

 

LI11 or LI10 is a good Mirror for ST36 (and also belong to the

Yangming Channel.

 

If patient has feeling at CV08, CV06 or CV04-05, moxa there

should have good effect on the lower jiao. Alternatives would be

(assuming feeling exists there) GV04 and the lumbosacral space.

 

 

Best regards,

 

Email: <

 

WORK : Teagasc Research Management, Sandymount Ave., Dublin 4, Ireland

Mobile: 353-; [in the Republic: 0]

 

HOME : 1 Esker Lawns, Lucan, Dublin, Ireland

Tel : 353-; [in the Republic: 0]

WWW : http://homepage.eircom.net/~progers/searchap.htm

 

Chinese Proverb: " Man who says it can't be done, should not interrupt man doing

it "

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