English-Chinese Encyclopedia of Practical Traditional Chinese Medicine?

[Guest guest]

H'llo all.

 

Is anyone here familiar with the English-Chinese Encyclopedia of Practical

Traditional ? I'm looking for opinions on (any of) the books of

the 21 volume set, i.e, breadth of material covered, how it is presented, the

quality of the translations, etc.

 

Any help would be most appreciated.

 

Kindest Regards,

 

Andrea

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Andrea,

 

This series is officially out-of-print (the 21 volume version) and has

been replaced by a new shortened series. I bought 20 of the 21 volumes

in the original series with much searching when I was in China in 2002

and found them very useful; especially some of the speciality volumes

such as orthopaedics, proctology, surgery and Chinese patent medicines

which contain material hard to find in English. The qigong, dietary

therapy and nursing volumes are also good introductions to these areas.

I could not find dermatology at the time anywhere in the

world........and I am still looking (anyone have a copy they don't

want?).

 

The updated version of this series is entitled " Newly Compiled

Practical English-Chinese Library of Traditional " and

has less volumes.....15 from memory. The original series is still

available for about 16 of the volumes but these are becoming harder to

find all the time as supplies run-out. I can not comment on this

re-issue as I have not purchased any of them. Unfortunately, most of

the more obscure specialities which made the original series so useful

to me are left out of this updated series.:-(

 

As for the content of the original series.........it is not perfect,

but does supply succinct information for each area. The translation is

generally clear enough but is inconsistent in some areas of

terminology. For example, some volumes only use Latin for herb names

which can be a problem for those who predominately use pinyin. The

books are not conversational at all, they are short and to the point

and do not really go into the depth of the texts published in the west.

This is normal for China however in such short volumes, these are

basically books of statements.

 

The fact that the Chinese text is included in the back half of each

book makes them useful for those wishing to dip their feet into

learning medical Chinese.

 

Overall, considering the cost of these books; especially if buying them

in China, I would recommend them.

 

I hope this helps!

 

Best Wishes,

 

Steve

 

On 22/08/2004, at 6:19 AM, Ai An Meng wrote:

 

> H'llo all.

>

> Is anyone here familiar with the English-Chinese Encyclopedia of

> Practical Traditional ?  I'm looking for opinions on

> (any of) the books of the 21 volume set, i.e, breadth of material

> covered, how it is presented, the quality of the translations, etc. 

>

> Any help would be most appreciated.

>

> Kindest Regards,

>

> Andrea

>

>

[Guest guest]

Andrea,

 

A couple of further points you might like to know:-

 

Con - There are no indexes in these volumes which can make finding a

particular topic difficult but the table of contents is usually enough.

Pro - These really are dirt cheap in China; ranging between 7rmb and

24rmb each (<US$1 and max of US$3) making them a no-brainer if

purchased in China.

 

Beware of buying them from ebay and some bookshops in the West who try

to sell them for a minimum of $US10 each plus huge postage!! If you

have contacts in china, I would get them to purchase them for you and

ship them all in one box.

 

If you would like any more detail of the contents of specific volumes

etc feel free to ask.

 

Best Wishes,

 

Steve

 

 

 

Dr. Steven J Slater

Practitioner and Acupuncturist

Mobile: 0418 343 545

chinese_medicine

[Guest guest]

Great set of books....Everyone should have them...

 

Dan Martin

 

 

-

" Ai An Meng " <aianmeng

<Chinese Medicine >

Saturday, August 21, 2004 3:19 PM

English-Chinese Encyclopedia of Practical Traditional Chinese

Medicine?

 

 

> H'llo all.

>

> Is anyone here familiar with the English-Chinese Encyclopedia of Practical

Traditional ? I'm looking for opinions on (any of) the

books of the 21 volume set, i.e, breadth of material covered, how it is

presented, the quality of the translations, etc.

>

> Any help would be most appreciated.

>

> Kindest Regards,

>

> Andrea

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Steve, who's the editor and the Publisher of this series?

I'm interested in those books.

Marvi

 

-

" Steve Slater " <dragonslive

<Chinese Medicine >

Sunday, August 22, 2004 6:11 AM

Re: English-Chinese Encyclopedia of Practical Traditional

?

 

 

Hi Andrea,

 

This series is officially out-of-print (the 21 volume version) and has

been replaced by a new shortened series. I bought 20 of the 21 volumes

in the original series with much searching when I was in China in 2002

and found them very useful; especially some of the speciality volumes

such as orthopaedics, proctology, surgery and Chinese patent medicines

which contain material hard to find in English. The qigong, dietary

therapy and nursing volumes are also good introductions to these areas.

I could not find dermatology at the time anywhere in the

world........and I am still looking (anyone have a copy they don't

want?).

 

The updated version of this series is entitled " Newly Compiled

Practical English-Chinese Library of Traditional " and

has less volumes.....15 from memory. The original series is still

available for about 16 of the volumes but these are becoming harder to

find all the time as supplies run-out. I can not comment on this

re-issue as I have not purchased any of them. Unfortunately, most of

the more obscure specialities which made the original series so useful

to me are left out of this updated series.:-(

 

As for the content of the original series.........it is not perfect,

but does supply succinct information for each area. The translation is

generally clear enough but is inconsistent in some areas of

terminology. For example, some volumes only use Latin for herb names

which can be a problem for those who predominately use pinyin. The

books are not conversational at all, they are short and to the point

and do not really go into the depth of the texts published in the west.

This is normal for China however in such short volumes, these are

basically books of statements.

 

The fact that the Chinese text is included in the back half of each

book makes them useful for those wishing to dip their feet into

learning medical Chinese.

 

Overall, considering the cost of these books; especially if buying them

in China, I would recommend them.

 

I hope this helps!

 

Best Wishes,

 

Steve

 

On 22/08/2004, at 6:19 AM, Ai An Meng wrote:

 

> H'llo all.

>

> Is anyone here familiar with the English-Chinese Encyclopedia of

> Practical Traditional ? I'm looking for opinions on

> (any of) the books of the 21 volume set, i.e, breadth of material

> covered, how it is presented, the quality of the translations, etc.

>

> Any help would be most appreciated.

>

> Kindest Regards,

>

> Andrea

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Steve,

 

Thanks for such detailed and helpful information, as always! As for specific

volumes of interest, I'm most interested in Volumes 2-5 (Materia Medica,

Pharmacology, Simple & Proven Recipes, and Commonly Used Chinese Patent

Medicines), Volume 10 (Internal Medicine), Volume 13 (Pediatrics), and Volume 18

(Otorhinolaryngology), and am curious about Volume 21 (Clinical Dialogue). I

had also heard that the volume on Dermatology was very rare, which is a shame as

it is an area that really interests me, too. Any info you could share on any of

these volumes would be most appreciated. =-)

 

Unfortunately, I do not have a source in China, or I would gladly go that

route!! I found a couple of these volumes when in San Francisco's Chinatown a

couple of months ago, although I honestly cannot remember the price they were

selling for (definitely more than $3). I noticed them again on eBay, and you're

correct, they are expensive. I believe the volume on Tui Na Therapeutics was

selling for nearly $40 USD. =-s So, anyone going to China soon? lol.

 

Oh, on another note, thanks again for passing along that info on the Chinese

Medicine Registration Board of Victoria. I wrote to them and corresponded with

a woman named Vanessa. She's informed me that, while the option for

" grandparenting in " ends this December, I will likely be eligible for

registration under Section 5, Option 3 of the Act, which would allow me to have

my training in the U.S. evaluated for approval based upon equivalency to an

Australian training program (which shouldn't be a problem). We're considering

the move back when I finish my MSTCM. Nothing is set in stone, but it is nice to

know that the possibility is there.

 

Anyway, thanks again for your help - on all fronts!

 

Andrea

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Marco,

 

The set was published by Higher Education Press Beijing, China.

(Chief editor Xu Xiangcai, Shandong College of TCM, April 1994).

You can read more about the set at the following web address:

http://www.mendiseasestcm.com/images/bookstore/g-gao-xiao.htm

 

Hope you find this helpful.

 

Kindest Regards,

 

Andrea

 

 

[Guest guest]

Steve,

 

I have another question for you. What was Volume 8 of the set? Every list I've

been able to find simply has the book listed as out of print, with no further

information available.

 

I appreciate your help! Thanks again.

 

Andrea

 

 

[Guest guest]

Andrea,

Vol 8 is " Medical Qicong "

ISBN 7-04-002060-2/R.1

It provides details of general principles, exercises for cultivation

of qi for oneself and for treatment of patients ailments with outgoing qi.

A very good book IMO which cost a mere 12.5 Y in Shanghai in 1998.

Best,

Godfrey Bartlett

England.

 

 

Chinese Medicine , " Ai An Meng "

<aianmeng@s...> wrote:

> Steve,

>

> I have another question for you. What was Volume 8 of the set?

Every list I've been able to find simply has the book listed as out of

print, with no further information available.

>

> I appreciate your help! Thanks again.

>

> Andrea

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Andrea,

 

Volume 2 - The Chinese materia medica, 834pgs

Similar structure to most materia medica and covers 350 or so herbs.

The most useful part of this volume is the list of alternative pinyin

names for each herb.

Table of contents for herbs in Latin and NO index.......a pain for

those used to pinyin.

 

Volume 3 - Pharmacology of TCM Formulae, 672pgs

Similar basics as all formulae texts including therapeutic methods,

administration and forms of preparations.

Structure goes like this:-

Pinyin Name,

English Name, Source text, Ingredients with dosage and short

explanations of major herb actions, effect function) and indications

with a very short case example at the end.

 

Before I go on; I must stress that the remaining volumes approach

treatment of disease is definitely the modern TCM approach. ie. western

diseases diagnosis with syndromes under these.

 

Volume 4 - Simple and Proved Recipes, 372pgs

All herbs in Latin ONLY, no index, no formula names, just called

" recipe 1,2,3 " etc

320 formula listed for WESTERN diseases in the general departments of

Internal disease, surgery diseases, gynaecological, paediatric and ,

eye/ear/nose/throat disease.

Each recipe list herbs in latin, dosage, admin, actions and case report.

 

Volume 5 - Commonly used Patent Medicines, 698pgs

Text of Chinese patent medicines, most of which are new to me.....ie.

not your regular minshan, tianjin type patents. Each patent has name in

latin and pinyin, % of each herb, actions, indications, admin,

preparation form, package and notes.

Patents are classified in a rather bizzare way.......eg..

1. Drugs for acting on the central nervous system

1.1 Antiepileptics

1.2 Antipshychotics

1.3 Sedatives-Hypnotics (drugs for regulating the nervous system)...

2. Cardio

3. respiratory

4. digestive

5. blood and haemopaetic systems

6. urinary system

7. metabolic functins.

8. antivirus and antibacerial

9. antirheumatics

10. antiparastics

11. antineoplastics

12. surgery

13. obstetrics and gynaecology

14. paediatrics

15. eye, ear, nose and throat

16. dermatology

17. nourishing and strengthening

18. other drugs

 

Volume 10 - Internal Medicine, 656pgs

Diseases categorised into western departments then western diseases.

Each entry has summary of western disease and lists the related Chinese

disease categories, aetiology and pathogenesis, syndrome and treatment

with decoctions, symptoms and treatment principle, herbs in pinyin and

latin, dose, administration, modifications, prevention (nursing advice)

and some patents if appropriate.

 

Volume 18 - Otorhinolaryngology, 366pgs

General introduciton including realtionships of the sense organs and

the zang-fu, aetiology, pathogenesis, differentiation and treatment.

Then it divides into otology, rhinology, pharyngology, laryngology,

stomatology and dentisrtry. All diseases are western and herbs are in

LATIN ONLY. Structure similar to Internal medicine text with the

additon of some external treatment methods and acumoxa.

 

Volume 21 - Clinical Dialogue, 428pgs

Amusing but interesting list of cases in " patient speaks, doctor

speaks " format covering a selection of common western diseases from the

previous texts. The conditions fit the normal theoretical syndromes for

each disease......no complicated cases here;)

 

I hope this helps and keep me posted about your plans about Australia.

 

Best Wishes,

 

Steve

 

 

On 23/08/2004, at 5:26 AM, Ai An Meng wrote:

 

> Hi Steve,

>

> Thanks for such detailed and helpful information, as always!  As for

> specific volumes of interest, I'm most interested in Volumes 2-5

> (Materia Medica, Pharmacology, Simple & Proven Recipes, and Commonly

> Used Chinese Patent Medicines), Volume 10 (Internal Medicine), Volume

> 13 (Pediatrics), and Volume 18 (Otorhinolaryngology), and am curious

> about Volume 21 (Clinical Dialogue).  I had also heard that the volume

> on Dermatology was very rare, which is a shame as it is an area that

> really interests me, too.  Any info you could share on any of these

> volumes would be most appreciated.  =-)

Dr. Steven J Slater

Practitioner and Acupuncturist

Mobile: 0418 343 545

chinese_medicine

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Steve,

 

Thanks for the detailed information on these volumes. It's very helpful. =-)

 

<<<keep me posted about your plans about Australia>>>

 

Sure thing. Will do!

 

Cheers,

 

Andrea

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the info Godfrey. I actually think I've seen this book before, but

didn't place it as the *unlisted* text. This is very helpful. I'll keep an eye

out

for it the next time I'm in Chinatown.

 

Cheers,

 

Andrea