Guest guest Posted August 20, 2004 Report Share Posted August 20, 2004 HI All, The other day reading on the effecs of the prostate I noted that one of its functions is to convert tetosterone into another hormone, this set me wondering. I have used this info to, 'so far', interesting effect in the trasformation of Kan and Li. Any one outhere know what the female equivalent of the prostate is? I imagine there is one, as there are women who on orgasm do appear to have a liquid discharge. salvador Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2004 Report Share Posted August 28, 2004 Hi All, & Salvador, > The other day reading on the effecs of the prostate I noted that > one of its functions is to convert tetosterone into another > hormone, this set me wondering. I have used this info to, 'so far', > interesting effect in the trasformation of Kan and Li. Any one > outhere know what the female equivalent of the prostate is? I > imagine there is one, as there are women who on orgasm do appear > to have a liquid discharge. salvador Skene's gland (also known as the lesser vestibular or paraurethral glands) is said to be the female equivalent of the male prostate. And, yes, there is a female equivalent to ejaculation. For details, see: http://tinyurl.com/6mrdw Best regards, Email: < WORK : Teagasc Research Management, Sandymount Ave., Dublin 4, Ireland Mobile: 353-; [in the Republic: 0] HOME : 1 Esker Lawns, Lucan, Dublin, Ireland Tel : 353-; [in the Republic: 0] WWW : http://homepage.eircom.net/~progers/searchap.htm Chinese Proverb: " Man who says it can't be done, should not interrupt man doing it " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2004 Report Share Posted August 29, 2004 The origin of the prostate and its female equivalent came up about a year ago. The consensus then was the female uterus is the equivalent of the male prostate. I would have to disagree with this statement by Phil: > Skene's gland ... female equivalent of the male prostate. Periurethral glands: The Cowpers gland in the male is much more likely to be the equivalent of Skene's gland in the female. See : http://biology.clc.uc.edu/courses/bio105/reproduc.htm and .. http://www.vnh.org/OBGYN/Vulva/Skenitis.htm The prostate is a single organ that if mirrored in the female would necessarily be single too. Skene's gland comes in pairs and so must have a different origin anatomically. I checked Phil's links below and references to Skene's gland and the prostate are highly speculative. On the other hand the relationship between the prostate and uterus has been documented. http://www.icr.ac.uk/gfr/teams/sexdev.html Someone please correct me if this is factually incorrect: Prior to primary sex differentiation in the embryo the gonads of both male and female are situated in the primitive urogenital sinus. During primary sexual differentiation, in the male the whole assembly migrates 'south' under the influence of testicular androgens. What later becomes the prostate lodges below the bladder; the gonads continue their journey to the scrotum. In the female of course, the uterus and the gonads stay where they are, developing as a single unit. G.A. Bates BA, BSc, MSc, PGCE. - Chinese Medicine Saturday, August 28, 2004 2:15 AM Re: Kan and LI -prostate Hi All, & Salvador, > The other day reading on the effecs of the prostate I noted that > one of its functions is to convert tetosterone into another > hormone, this set me wondering. I have used this info to, 'so far', > interesting effect in the trasformation of Kan and Li. Any one > outhere know what the female equivalent of the prostate is? I > imagine there is one, as there are women who on orgasm do appear > to have a liquid discharge. salvador Skene's gland (also known as the lesser vestibular or paraurethral glands) is said to be the female equivalent of the male prostate. And, yes, there is a female equivalent to ejaculation. For details, see: http://tinyurl.com/6mrdw Best regards, Email: < WORK : Teagasc Research Management, Sandymount Ave., Dublin 4, Ireland Mobile: 353-; [in the Republic: 0] HOME : 1 Esker Lawns, Lucan, Dublin, Ireland Tel : 353-; [in the Republic: 0] WWW : http://homepage.eircom.net/~progers/searchap.htm Chinese Proverb: " Man who says it can't be done, should not interrupt man doing it " http://babel.altavista.com/ and adjust accordingly. If you , it takes a few days for the messages to stop being delivered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2004 Report Share Posted August 30, 2004 Chinese Medicine , " sammy_bates " <sammy_bates@b...> wrote: > The origin of the prostate and its female equivalent came up about a year ago. The consensus then was the female uterus is the equivalent of the male prostate. I would have to disagree with this statement by Phil: > > > Skene's gland ... female equivalent of the male prostate. > > Periurethral glands: The Cowpers gland in the male is much more likely to be the equivalent of Skene's gland in the female. See : > > http://biology.clc.uc.edu/courses/bio105/reproduc.htm Sammy and Phil, Mant thanks for helping me to be clearer. On reflection and for the purposes of Kan and Li, having reflected on the evidence it seems to me that the previous group concensus must be right that the 'Cauldron' in the female must be the uterus. However, the intense activity that occurs in the hypothalus to regulate hormonal production Makes me wonder wether the 'effective focus'of intent for'energy transformation' in females is diferent. I would welcome observations from any females in the group that practice Kan and LI. salvador Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2004 Report Share Posted August 30, 2004 Salvador, I don't know the practice you refer to - Kan and Li - but I have worked with the glands for many years in Body-Mind Centering®. We worked with the following glandular centers, which seem to be similar to (but not exactly the same as) the chakras. We worked with: coccygeal body--in front of the tip of the coccyx gonads--ovaries, testes kidneys--glandular cells of the Kidneys adrenals--sitting on kidneys digestive system--glandular cells distributed throughout digestive system pancrease--central location thoraco body--1 " deep to the xyphoid process heart bodies--in the aorta thymus--deep to manubrium thyroid--base of throat parathyroids--on back of thyroid carotid bodies--angle of jaw, at bifurcation of carotid artery pituitary--in the sella tursica of the sphenoid bone mamillary bodies--on a diagonal line between pituitary and pineal pineal--deep to the birthing crown area of back of head each gland has a body-level function and a transformative, or spiritual aspect. Briefly, we saw these as (this is very simplified): coccygeal--root level survival instinct, connection to earth gonads--sexuality, creativity, reproduction kidneys--inner self, inner power, inner knowing, will, parasympathetic mind adrenals--outer direction of expression, sympathetic mind digestive system--relates to desire, reaching for and digesting experience pancrease--ego, self, the bitterness and the sweetness of life, 3-dimensional space thoraco body--breathing on a cellular level heart bodies--love, connection to others and the world, calming fear, support thymus--spiritual love, protection, immune system thyroid--self-expression, creativity, expressing one's 'voice', cellular metabolism parathyroids--gentleness, song, ease and flow carotid bodies--govern silence, the space around what is said, silent resonance pituitary--one's path in life, the future, also inner sight, intuition mamillary bodies--opioids, visions, spiritual flight pineal--the past, death and rebirth In our research, many connection between different glands, and different glands and organs could be found. I've personally always felt there is a strong connection that needs to be balanced between the pituitary and the heart bodies, thyroid and gonads, thoraco and coccygeal.......I could go on, but I'll stop here..... Even if this doesn't address your question I hope the info is of some interest to you. ---roseanne s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2004 Report Share Posted August 30, 2004 Chinese Medicine , " salvador_march " <salvador_march@h...> wrote: > Chinese Medicine , " sammy_bates " > <sammy_bates@b...> wrote: > > The origin of the prostate and its female equivalent came up about a > year ago. The consensus then was the female uterus is the equivalent > of the male prostate. I would have to disagree with this statement by > Phil: > > > > > Skene's gland ... female equivalent of the male prostate. > > > > Periurethral glands: The Cowpers gland in the male is much more > likely to be the equivalent of Skene's gland in the female. See : > > > > http://biology.clc.uc.edu/courses/bio105/reproduc.htm > > > > > Sammy and Phil, > Mant thanks for helping me to be clearer. > > On reflection and for the purposes of Kan and Li, having reflected on > the evidence it seems to me that the previous group concensus must be > right that the 'Cauldron' in the female must be the uterus. > However, the intense activity that occurs in the hypothalus to > regulate hormonal production Makes me wonder wether the 'effective > focus'of intent for'energy transformation' in females is diferent. I > would welcome observations from any females in the group that practice > Kan and LI. > > salvador -------- Hi all, having meditated further on the concept and process of Kan and Li, It now seems to me that the 'Focus' of the Pineal and pituitary is probably also an essential ingredient for the process of transformation wether male or female. When I was taught these practices I was taught among others to use the Heart (Thymus) energy It now seems to me That 'all three centers' need to be involved in this transformation. Am I talking to myself? I hope not. Any one out there with practical experience on this subject? salvador Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2004 Report Share Posted August 30, 2004 Chinese Medicine , ra6151@a... wrote: > Salvador, > > I don't know the practice you refer to - Kan and Li - but I have worked with > the glands for many years in Body-Mind Centering®. We worked with the > following glandular centers, which seem to be similar to (but not exactly the same > as) the chakras. We worked with: > > coccygeal body--in front of the tip of the coccyx > gonads--ovaries, testes > kidneys--glandular cells of the Kidneys > adrenals--sitting on kidneys > digestive system--glandular cells distributed throughout digestive system > pancrease--central location > thoraco body--1 " deep to the xyphoid process > heart bodies--in the aorta > thymus--deep to manubrium > thyroid--base of throat > parathyroids--on back of thyroid > carotid bodies--angle of jaw, at bifurcation of carotid artery > pituitary--in the sella tursica of the sphenoid bone > mamillary bodies--on a diagonal line between pituitary and pineal > pineal--deep to the birthing crown area of back of head > > ---roseanne s. --- Hi Rosane, many thanks for taking the time and trouble to share your knowledge which is fascisnating and I will ponder on (as it is a most comprehensive outlay of the glandular/ hormonal system , though not directly related to my immediate interest. I note that your system does not include the prostate / Uterus, G. spot/ prostate?)have you ever worked / felt inside of yourself for the energetic qualities inherent in these glands? Kan and Li is a very old Daoist Active meditation practice which at its simplest is the transformation of sexual energy by blending adrenal and testicular /ovarian energy with heart energy, the new refined energy is then available for self/ healing, psychic development, and in general energy for the Higher Centers of Thought and Feeling. As a practice it has traditionally been kept secret, Whilst it is not advised for the uninitiated, there is usually no danger of that as it requires a fair amount of internal self awareness and focus. However, it is never taught until individuals have learnt foundation practices of emotional self cleansing and Self Love, for the simple reason that sexual energy magnifies all emotions. salvador Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2004 Report Share Posted August 30, 2004 Salvador, > Am I talking to myself? I hope not. I am listening and learning I am checking out Google refs now .. Hmm .. interesting " microcosmic orbit meditation " transformation of sexual energy & etcetera ..and now something from Roseanne .. Thinks I'll meditate on all this before I make a reply. In the mean time you guys might like to take a look at http://prostateman.org/sammy/topdog/ Sammy. - salvador_march Chinese Medicine Monday, August 30, 2004 12:44 PM Re: Kan and LI -prostate Chinese Medicine , " salvador_march " <salvador_march@h...> wrote: > Chinese Medicine , " sammy_bates " > <sammy_bates@b...> wrote: > > The origin of the prostate and its female equivalent came up about a > year ago. The consensus then was the female uterus is the equivalent > of the male prostate. I would have to disagree with this statement by > Phil: > > > > > Skene's gland ... female equivalent of the male prostate. > > > > Periurethral glands: The Cowpers gland in the male is much more > likely to be the equivalent of Skene's gland in the female. See : > > > > http://biology.clc.uc.edu/courses/bio105/reproduc.htm > > > > > Sammy and Phil, > Mant thanks for helping me to be clearer. > > On reflection and for the purposes of Kan and Li, having reflected on > the evidence it seems to me that the previous group concensus must be > right that the 'Cauldron' in the female must be the uterus. > However, the intense activity that occurs in the hypothalus to > regulate hormonal production Makes me wonder wether the 'effective > focus'of intent for'energy transformation' in females is diferent. I > would welcome observations from any females in the group that practice > Kan and LI. > > salvador -------- Hi all, having meditated further on the concept and process of Kan and Li, It now seems to me that the 'Focus' of the Pineal and pituitary is probably also an essential ingredient for the process of transformation wether male or female. When I was taught these practices I was taught among others to use the Heart (Thymus) energy It now seems to me That 'all three centers' need to be involved in this transformation. Am I talking to myself? I hope not. Any one out there with practical experience on this subject? salvador Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2004 Report Share Posted August 31, 2004 Salvador, On reflection, I think perhaps the BMC® system has not yet added in the uterus/prostate to their glandular work, and probably should. BMC® is a body of work still forming....for instance, at one time we didn't work with the glandular tissue of the digestive system or the kidneys (just the adrenals). But the uterus clearly has glandular cells - (probably one reason why hysterectomies disturb women's lives and health more than doctors acknowledge). I am somewhat ignorant about the prostate, so I can't comment on that. Perhaps the G spot is a collection of glandular cells...does anyone know? Anyway, my first attempt to work with this (last night) led me to one clear sensation - that was of a spirilic energy/movement in my uterus. That's all I can report at this time. ps. to Sammy - I'll look at your site. --roseanne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2004 Report Share Posted August 31, 2004 Chinese Medicine , ra6151@a... wrote: > Salvador, > Anyway, my first attempt to work with this (last night) led me to one clear > sensation - that was of a spirilic energy/movement in my uterus. That's all I can > report at this time. >> > --roseanne - Hi Rossane, Thanks for your input, I think you have shown that the uterus is indeed crucial in the transformation and may well be the prostate equivalent. Take it a step further? think of the uterus as a cauldron place the feeling of your adrenals and ovaries inside(water) place the feeling of your heart (thymus) below (fire)and use your pituitary and pineal both as an energy to act as a platform and to allow uncontrolled imaging with a life of its own. You should end up with a feeling of all 3 centers engaged in the activity. Share your experience? salvador Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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