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Guest guest Posted August 12, 2004 Report Share Posted August 12, 2004 This is re tx for ear-ringing due to sp/kidney qi vacuity and gallbladder heat. Trying to find a way to communicate to an MD to please stop spuriously prescribing antibiotics based on a five day old positive test for bladder infection. The morning of the test the patient had dark urine and no other s/s, and previous days and following days she was back to normal at clear urine, 4 x a day, medium volume. Anybody have anything to add or comment on? Thanks! ps - Frustrating to see how clearly antibiotics are cold and serve to damage the ears (via the kidneys), esp with long-term use. I've included a bit of research a la Phil. J Int Med Res. 2002 Jul-Aug;30(4):406-12. Comparative cochlear toxicities of streptomycin, gentamicin, amikacin and netilmicin in guinea-pigs. Kalkandelen S, Selimoglu E, Erdogan F, Ucuncu H, Altas E. Department of Otolaryngology, Faculty of Medicine, Erzurum, Turkey. All the aminoglycoside antibiotics now in clinical use are ototoxic. This study was designed to compare the toxic effects of four aminoglycoside antibiotics, streptomycin, gentamicin, amikacin and netilmicin, administered to guinea-pigs systemically (at respective doses of 125 mg/kg, 50 mg/kg, 150 mg/kg or 37.5 mg/kg, twice daily for 1 week) or topically via the transtympanic route (0.25 ml/kg in 4% saline, twice daily for 1 week). Chosen doses were 10-20 times higher than the recommended human dosage. Cochlear damage was observed in all animals that were given systemic and local aminoglycosides. The severity of the cochlear damage was in the order gentamicin, amikacin, streptomycin, netilmicin, with gentamicin being the most toxic. No statistically significant difference between the severity of cochlear damage resulting from the systemic and topical applications was detected. PMID: 12235923 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] Acta Otolaryngol. 2000 Aug;120(5):596-9. Related Articles, Links Topical aminoglycoside ototoxicity: attempting to protect the cochlea. Conlon BJ, Smith DW. Hearing Research Laboratories, Division of Otolaryngology-Head and Neck Surgery, Duke University Medical Center, Durham, North Carolina, USA. bconlon Cochlear damage following topical application of aminoglycoside antibiotics to the round window membrane is a recognized phenomenon in both animal experiments and clinical reports. The authors have recently reported the ability of the free radical scavenging agent, alpha lipoic acid, to protect against the cochleo-toxic side effects of systemically administered aminoglycoside antibiotics. This study attempts to determine if the protective effect of this free radical scavenging agent is also seen following topical aminoglycoside application. Animals were implanted with osmotic pumps which delivered 2.5 microl/h solution of either neomycin 5% or neomycin plus alpha lipoic acid (50 mg/ml). Control animals received normal saline solution. Drug solutions were presented directly to the round window membrane over a 7-day period. Auditory sensitivity was monitored using compound action potentials (CAPs) of the auditory nerve recorded through an implanted chronic electrode terminating at the round window. Sixteen animals were entered into the study and randomized to one of the above groups. All animals receiving neomycin solution, with or without alpha lipoic acid, maintained normal thresholds for the first 3 days of the treatment period. Animals receiving neomycin solution alone experienced profound and rapid deterioration in auditory sensitivity, which was maximal by day 6. Animals receiving neomycin plus alpha lipoic acid also experienced significant cochlear damage; however, the rate of deterioration was slower than that seen in the group receiving neomycin alone. All control animals receiving saline maintained good hearing thresholds throughout the treatment period. PMID: 11039868 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] Hear Res. 1998 Jan;115(1-2):217-23. Loss of spiral ganglion cells as primary manifestation of aminoglycoside ototoxicity. Sone M, Schachern PA, Paparella MM. Department of Otorhinolaryngology, Nagoya University School of Medicine, Japan. Although pulmonary infections caused by Pseudomonas aeruginosa can hardly be eradicated in patients with cystic fibrosis (CF, the most common genetic disease among Caucasians), these patients are mainly treated with intravenous and nebulized tobramycin. Long-term treatment with tobramycin, however, may induce ototoxic effects. We assessed the clinical histories and postmortem temporal bones of six patients with CF for signs of this ototoxicity. Four bones showed typical manifestations of ototoxicity induced by aminoglycosides (AGs): loss of hair cells in the lower turns, and degeneration of ganglion cells. Six bones revealed no loss or scattered loss of hair cells, however, degeneration of the spiral ganglion cells was observed. This suggests that degeneration of the spiral ganglion may occur as a primary manifestation in some cases of ototoxicity due to aminoglycosides. Recent reports have shown that trophic factors (neurotrophins and acidic fibroblast growth factor) interacting with hair cells and the spiral ganglion protect the inner ear from damage. It may be that disturbances in supply of such trophic factors caused degeneration of ganglion cells without loss of hair cells in the cases we studied. PMID: 9472750 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] _________ALL-NEW Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2004 Report Share Posted August 12, 2004 Hi Hugo & All, If a specific antibiotic/other drug induces tinnitus, one might try oral administration of an ISOPATHIC dilution of THAT specific agent. In his book, Are Thoresen described some extraordinary results with isopathy. Hugo wrote: > This is re tx for ear-ringing due to sp/kidney qi vacuity and > gallbladder heat. Trying to find a way to communicate to an MD to > please stop spuriously prescribing antibiotics based on a five day > old positive test for bladder infection. The morning of the test > the patient had dark urine and no other s/s, and previous days and > following days she was back to normal at clear urine, 4 x a day, > medium volume. Anybody have anything to add or comment on? Thanks! > ps - Frustrating to see how clearly antibiotics are cold and serve > to damage the ears (via the kidneys), esp with long-term use. I've > included a bit of research a la Phil. : J Int Med Res. 2002 > Jul-Aug;30(4):406-12. Comparative cochlear toxicities of > streptomycin, gentamicin, amikacin and netilmicin in guinea-pigs. > Kalkandelen S, Selimoglu E, Erdogan F, Ucuncu H, Altas E. > Department of Otolaryngology, Faculty of Medicine, Erzurum, Turkey. > All the aminoglycoside antibiotics now in clinical use are > ototoxic. This study was designed to compare the toxic effects of > four aminoglycoside antibiotics, streptomycin, gentamicin, amikacin > and netilmicin, administered to guinea-pigs systemically (at > respective doses of 125 mg/kg, 50 mg/kg, 150 mg/kg or 37.5 mg/kg, > twice daily for 1 week) or topically via the transtympanic route > (0.25 ml/kg in 4% saline, twice daily for 1 week). Chosen doses > were 10-20 times higher than the recommended human dosage. Cochlear > damage was observed in all animals that were given systemic and > local aminoglycosides. The severity of the cochlear damage was in > the order gentamicin, amikacin, streptomycin, netilmicin, with > gentamicin being the most toxic. No statistically significant > difference between the severity of cochlear damage resulting from > the systemic and topical applications was detected. PMID: 12235923 > [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] Acta Otolaryngol. 2000 Aug;120(5):596-9. Related Articles, Links Topical aminoglycoside ototoxicity: attempting to protect the cochlea. Conlon BJ, Smith DW. Hearing Research Laboratories, Division of Otolaryngology-Head and Neck Surgery, Duke University Medical Center, Durham, North Carolina, USA. bconlon Cochlear damage following topical application of aminoglycoside antibiotics to the round window membrane is a recognized phenomenon in both animal experiments and clinical reports. The authors have recently reported the ability of the free radical scavenging agent, alpha lipoic acid, to protect against the cochleo-toxic side effects of systemically administered aminoglycoside antibiotics. This study attempts to determine if the protective effect of this free radical scavenging agent is also seen following topical aminoglycoside application. Animals were implanted with osmotic pumps which delivered 2.5 microl/h solution of either neomycin 5% or neomycin plus alpha lipoic acid (50 mg/ml). Control animals received normal saline solution. Drug solutions were presented directly to the round window membrane over a 7-day period. Auditory sensitivity was monitored using compound action potentials (CAPs) of the auditory nerve recorded through an implanted chronic electrode terminating at the round window. Sixteen animals were entered into the study and randomized to one of the above groups. All animals receiving neomycin solution, with or without alpha lipoic acid, maintained normal thresholds for the first 3 days of the treatment period. Animals receiving neomycin solution alone experienced profound and rapid deterioration in auditory sensitivity, which was maximal by day 6. Animals receiving neomycin plus alpha lipoic acid also experienced significant cochlear damage; however, the rate of deterioration was slower than that seen in the group receiving neomycin alone. All control animals receiving saline maintained good hearing thresholds throughout the treatment period. PMID: 11039868 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] Hear Res. 1998 Jan;115(1-2):217-23. Loss of spiral ganglion cells as primary manifestation of aminoglycoside ototoxicity. Sone M, Schachern PA, Paparella MM. Department of Otorhinolaryngology, Nagoya University School of Medicine, Japan. Although pulmonary infections caused by Pseudomonas aeruginosa can hardly be eradicated in patients with cystic fibrosis (CF, the most common genetic disease among Caucasians), these patients are mainly treated with intravenous and nebulized tobramycin. Long-term treatment with tobramycin, however, may induce ototoxic effects. We assessed the clinical histories and postmortem temporal bones of six patients with CF for signs of this ototoxicity. Four bones showed typical manifestations of ototoxicity induced by aminoglycosides (AGs): loss of hair cells in the lower turns, and degeneration of ganglion cells. Six bones revealed no loss or scattered loss of hair cells, however, degeneration of the spiral ganglion cells was observed. This suggests that degeneration of the spiral ganglion may occur as a primary manifestation in some cases of ototoxicity due to aminoglycosides. Recent reports have shown that trophic factors (neurotrophins and acidic fibroblast growth factor) interacting with hair cells and the spiral ganglion protect the inner ear from damage. It may be that disturbances in supply of such trophic factors caused degeneration of ganglion cells without loss of hair cells in the cases we studied. PMID: 9472750 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] Best regards, Email: < WORK : Teagasc Research Management, Sandymount Ave., Dublin 4, Ireland Mobile: 353-; [in the Republic: 0] HOME : 1 Esker Lawns, Lucan, Dublin, Ireland Tel : 353-; [in the Republic: 0] WWW : http://homepage.eircom.net/~progers/searchap.htm Chinese Proverb: " Man who says it can't be done, should not interrupt man doing it " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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