Fatal dangers of chemo and Radiation

[Guest guest]

I agree that there are a few web sites out there that are a little

questionable in there cancer cure, but I will say this, I deal with a lot of

cancer

patients and it makes me sick to see the way they are pumped up with chemo and

burned like a BBQ with radiation. I mean come on, when the Doctor tells them

they

only have a few months to live, go home and kiss everyone good-bye, get your

things in order..... want does it hurt to try alternative ways. NO ONE has

the right to tell you how you want to treat your disease. If the Western

Medicine doesn't work or the chemo kills them no one gets upset, but if someone

tries

alternative medicine and they die then it was the herbs or whatever that

killed them not the disease. Come on people we live in a free country and we

should have the right to choose what ever treatment we choose. I personally

would

not spend my last few months throwing up, diarrhea, feeling like crap, but

that's what they are offered, chemo the last few months that is not going to

extend there life's but only make them wish that they where died. No one has the

cure for cancer, but we can help the patient feel better and help the immune

system get stronger. That is the compassion of medicine.

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

I completely agree with you here Dr Spohn. There is no one single way to

cure cancer, but approaching it from many different angles is the most

likely to succeed. Nutrition, heat, oxygen etc as well as drugs if they are

shown to be successful (Many are not). Chemo should only be used on a

relatively well person and too often it is used on a patient who is too ill

to withstand the poison and the chemo kills them (I have seen this many

times). It is a great pity that the WM does not take nutrition more

seriously as I have read that more cancer patients die of malnutrition than

anything else (I will provide a reference for this if anyone other than

Jason expresses a desire to see it).

 

It is also worth noting that Ernzt, the man who produced the original paper

that the Times article was based on and which was posted by Attilio is

renowned for slamming any type of CAM - he is the Jason B of the academic

world (sorry Jason, but the similarities are so strong!) and so his paper

should not be taken as gospel as it will undoubtedly be skewed by his

prejudices.

 

I would recommend that anyone interested in WM and CAM in relation to cancer

should go to www.cancerdecisions.com and register for the weekly newsletter

sent by Dr Ralph Moss - it is very well referenced and a very useful

resource for any cancer patient and their health practitioners.

 

Regards

Susie Parkinson

 

 

 

Message: 13

Mon, 9 Aug 2004 16:56:43 EDT

DrSpohn

Re: Fatal dangers of chemo and Radiation

 

I agree that there are a few web sites out there that are a little

questionable in there cancer cure, but I will say this, I deal with a lot of

cancer

patients and it makes me sick to see the way they are pumped up with chemo

and

burned like a BBQ with radiation. I mean come on, when the Doctor tells them

they

only have a few months to live, go home and kiss everyone good-bye, get your

things in order..... want does it hurt to try alternative ways. NO ONE has

the right to tell you how you want to treat your disease. If the Western

Medicine doesn't work or the chemo kills them no one gets upset, but if

someone tries

alternative medicine and they die then it was the herbs or whatever that

killed them not the disease. Come on people we live in a free country and we

should have the right to choose what ever treatment we choose. I personally

would

not spend my last few months throwing up, diarrhea, feeling like crap, but

that's what they are offered, chemo the last few months that is not going to

extend there life's but only make them wish that they where died. No one has

the

cure for cancer, but we can help the patient feel better and help the immune

system get stronger. That is the compassion of medicine.

[Guest guest]

I think the big push for chemo/radiation in likely terminal situations

is purely financial greed. At $4000-$6000 per chemo treatment, just

think of all the money that can be soaked from insurance!! That's what

makes me sick and that's why the early works of Koch, etc., were likely

chased out of this country (University of Michigan, 1940's in the

example of Koch). In the process of my treatment for stage 1 breast

cancer (which is now completely gone), I spent a grand total of $1100

for medicinals and naturopathic testing and visits. Let's see, my

western treatment would've included a lumpectomy ($4000??) and radiation

(I have no idea of the cost of that, but suffice to say, it would be

more than $1100).

 

As long as cancer is a money making business, we will have no cure for

cancer in the United States (unless, of course, some pharmaceutical

company makes millions/billions in the process).

 

Read " The Politics of Healing " (can't remember the author's name) for a

bunch of truthful stories on this horrific scenario in the US.

 

 

susie parkinson [susie]

Tuesday, August 10, 2004 4:29 AM

Chinese Medicine

Re: Fatal dangers of chemo and Radiation

 

I completely agree with you here Dr Spohn. There is no one single way

to

cure cancer, but approaching it from many different angles is the most

likely to succeed. Nutrition, heat, oxygen etc as well as drugs if they

are

shown to be successful (Many are not). Chemo should only be used on a

relatively well person and too often it is used on a patient who is too

ill

to withstand the poison and the chemo kills them (I have seen this many

times). It is a great pity that the WM does not take nutrition more

seriously as I have read that more cancer patients die of malnutrition

than

anything else (I will provide a reference for this if anyone other than

Jason expresses a desire to see it).

 

It is also worth noting that Ernzt, the man who produced the original

paper

that the Times article was based on and which was posted by Attilio is

renowned for slamming any type of CAM - he is the Jason B of the

academic

world (sorry Jason, but the similarities are so strong!) and so his

paper

should not be taken as gospel as it will undoubtedly be skewed by his

prejudices.

 

I would recommend that anyone interested in WM and CAM in relation to

cancer

should go to www.cancerdecisions.com and register for the weekly

newsletter

sent by Dr Ralph Moss - it is very well referenced and a very useful

resource for any cancer patient and their health practitioners.

 

Regards

Susie Parkinson

 

 

 

Message: 13

Mon, 9 Aug 2004 16:56:43 EDT

DrSpohn

Re: Fatal dangers of chemo and Radiation

 

I agree that there are a few web sites out there that are a little

questionable in there cancer cure, but I will say this, I deal with a

lot of

cancer

patients and it makes me sick to see the way they are pumped up with

chemo

and

burned like a BBQ with radiation. I mean come on, when the Doctor tells

them

they

only have a few months to live, go home and kiss everyone good-bye, get

your

things in order..... want does it hurt to try alternative ways. NO ONE

has

the right to tell you how you want to treat your disease. If the Western

Medicine doesn't work or the chemo kills them no one gets upset, but if

someone tries

alternative medicine and they die then it was the herbs or whatever that

killed them not the disease. Come on people we live in a free country

and we

should have the right to choose what ever treatment we choose. I

personally

would

not spend my last few months throwing up, diarrhea, feeling like crap,

but

that's what they are offered, chemo the last few months that is not

going to

extend there life's but only make them wish that they where died. No one

has

the

cure for cancer, but we can help the patient feel better and help the

immune

system get stronger. That is the compassion of medicine.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Tuesday, August 10, 2004 4:56 AM

Re: Fatal dangers of chemo and Radiation

 

 

I agree that there are a few web sites out there that are a little

questionable in there cancer cure, but I will say this, I deal with a lot of

cancer

patients and it makes me sick to see the way they are pumped up with chemo and

burned like a BBQ with radiation. I mean come on, when the Doctor tells them

they

only have a few months to live, go home and kiss everyone good-bye, get your

things in order..... want does it hurt to try alternative ways. NO ONE has

the right to tell you how you want to treat your disease. If the Western

Medicine doesn't work or the chemo kills them no one gets upset, but if

someone tries

alternative medicine and they die then it was the herbs or whatever that

killed them not the disease. Come on people we live in a free country and we

should have the right to choose what ever treatment we choose. I personally

would

not spend my last few months throwing up, diarrhea, feeling like crap, but

that's what they are offered, chemo the last few months that is not going to

extend there life's but only make them wish that they where died. No one has

the

cure for cancer, but we can help the patient feel better and help the immune

system get stronger. That is the compassion of medicine.