Guest guest Posted August 3, 2004 Report Share Posted August 3, 2004 Fri, 30 Jul 2004 14:27:15, Benjamin wrote: >> If you look at history, you will see that Chinese medicine arose out of shamanic/divinatory practices. Scientific history (alla P Unschuld, K Taylor etc) and mythic Chinese history agree on this. With a difference: the latter see it a continuum of 'history' of 'medicine'. One may not agree with it, but the following is an attempt to depict the former interpretation, at least on the part of Paul Unschuld: There are " healing practices " (Heilpraxis), including those based in shamanism, ancestor worship, demonology, etc. and then there is " medicine " , i.e. a system of theory based on natural law (held to be true irrespective of time, place and particular human factors, e.g. family, or " numinous " influences). In this sense, both Chinese and Western history of what we informally call " medicine " is actually a mixture of these two. In Han China, the system of natural law had to do with descriptive climate and seasonal factors, such as wind, cold, heat, etc., and abstract concepts (or perhaps metaphors) like Yin and Yang, 5 phases, etc. Hence Chinese medicine traces back about 2000 years. The stuff documented in the earlier history (e.g. roughly up to and including the MaWangDui manuscripts)- DaoYin, moxa therapy, bian stones (blood letting), herbal practices, etc. - were grounded either in ritual/religious practices, or in ad hoc physical remedies, health promoting/restoring practices (without a theoretical framework). Modern Western medicine's system of natural law is grounded in sciences like chemistry and physics, and a dynamic element, the " scientific method. " Hippocratic Greek medicine also was elaborated on the basis of a system of natural low. Perhaps also Ayruvedic. Most of the rest of " medical " traditions (and many modalities still practiced today in the West and elsewhere) are " healing practices " . Apropos the subsequent discussion about medicine and professionalism (over the weekend) a medicine, in Unschuld's sense does imply professional level education, systematic mastery of techniques, as well as an ethical code. Jeffery Yuan has also weighed in on the topic (1). He outlines three perspectives (as he always does - Daoistic trinities of concept): 1) practice of a technical system of medicine; 2) scholar-teacher role, e.g. as in Confucian; and 3) shamanistic, or " healing by presence " . There's much more to it, of course, and these three are not mutually exclusive - as the case can be made that personages such Sun SiMiao operated at all 3 levels. As the forum here relates to a profession, I agree that we all should be qualified (or in the process/study of it) in some flavor or a traditional Chinese/Oriental medical system/techniques -- theory, diagnosis, treatment strategies, management and specific techniques. And that, given this, teaching/scholarship issues are germane to discussion here. And even questions in the 3rd category, though this may be, for some, a slippery slope. I mean I believe rational and fruitful discussion is possible in this area, though it might be difficult in this group, at this time. I would refer to Ted Kapchuk's ideas which I think approach this area (2). (1) Lecture titled " Cultivating the Teacher Within " , at CSOMA, 2001. Available on tape from ConferenceRecording.com, ID CAA21-015 (2 tape set) (2) for instance, TED KAPTCHUK, " Psychological vs. Spiritual Issues in Traditional Chinese " , Pacific Symposium 1989 (the 1st one!), Available on tape from ConferenceRecording.com, ID ACU89-027 (2 tape set) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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