chidoctor

[Guest guest]

Diane I am sorry to have brought this example up but it rather stuck

in my head. For me , taking on board the power of acupuncture is a must,.

 

I think you did the best you could with the training you had received,

And this to some extent is one of the issues I am passionate about. We

generally do not receive enough training and the theoretical training

that we do receive has quite a few chunks missing. It is no ones's

fault, rather it is the stage of understanding that we as a species

have climbed to to date and we need to climb higher.

 

for those interested this thread was to do with Message 5224.

 

and my tentative diagnosis was Excess LU energy and def. LI.

 

the patient had suffered emotional trauma which gave rise to a number

of symptoms.

 

 

I am in complete agreement that it is difficult to find the Root when

everything is affected.

 

That has been one of my obssesions for many years. how to find

objective evidence of where the root is rather than relying on my

intuition, beleif or theoretical framework. I am not dfismissing them

out of hand. I wanted something that could be taught to newly

qualified acupuncturist who didn't have 20 years to hone their skills.

and who meanwhilst can do alot of unwitting damage if let loose

without supervision.

 

salvador

 

 

 

 

 

 

Chinese Medicine , thechidoctor@a...

wrote:

> Dear Salvador & all,

>

> Salvador wrote: " A while back a new practitioner asked for help on

this site

> She had

> been treating this patient for a while without much success. Based on

> info she provided I suggested she needed to work on the LU (I think

> she had been treating the SP) before she could try out my suggestions

> she shared with the group that the patient had been taken into

> hospital with serious breathing difficulties. This was not an

> overnight result but rather a development from a number of

> innapropriate treatments plus a neglect of 'Root'.

>

> I am sorry to highlight the above example it is not to make myself

> clever or discredit the efforts of the acupuncturist. This is a

> serious business we are in. I am all for making mistakes as long as we

> learn from them. "

>

> Diane: This situation sounds like a case I presented to this group

a while

> ago. I wouldn't mind bringing this up again because this raises

more questions

> for me and I would like to throw this out to the group for

discussion. This

> patient had lost the ability to walk - her legs had become so weak,

she was

> bed- or wheelchair-bound. That was her chief complaiint. (She was

being worked

> up for Lou Gehrig's disease) I initially treated her for Wei

Syndrome and

> Spleen deficiency because of the muscle weakness (sorry, I don't

have her chart

> here, so no tongue or pulse diagnosis available now). I did not see

her for

> very many treatments before her son told me she went to the hospital

with

> respiratory distress.

>

> Although she did have shortness of breath when I saw her, how or why

would I

> have diagnosed her with Lu def. rather then as I did? This leads me

to other

> questions -- when a person has been chronically ill, it seems to me

that all

> the organ systems get out of whack. How do you know where to start,

especially

> when there are conflicting signals with pulse & tongue diagnosis. I

can't

> always find " the root " because everything is affected.

>

> I am open to learning from all this. I am grateful to this group

for all the

> insight it provides. (Sorry for the long post.)

> Diane Bryson