The study of TCM

[Guest guest]

Chinese Medicine , " "

<zrosenbe@s...> wrote:

> In Chinese/Asian medicine, this means to be able to master

> pulse, tongue, abdominal and palpation diagnosis, and process the

> information from these (plus questioning) to come up with a

> comprehensive diagnosis and treatment plan.

>

 

Just so as to not put you on the spot, Z'ev, let me answer my own query. Based

on my

experience as a practitioner and teacher, I think that maybe 5-10% of the

profession

in the US has the abilities you describe. So I personally don't think we've

reached this

level as a profession. Please note that I put myself in the 90-95% who haven't

attained any sort of mastery whatsoever. On your list, I'm working on the

palpation

and abdominal dx part, and haven't really gotten to any of the other skills in

any

meaningful way.

 

robert hayden

[Guest guest]

Chinese Medicine , " kampo36 "

<kampo36> wrote:

> Chinese Medicine , " Emmanuel Segmen "

> <susegmen@i...> wrote:

> > Since 1988, I've watch Chinese doctors of merit imbibe huge boxes

per month of

> current clinic literature. How much of that has been translated

into English?

> Practically none.

>

> >>>>>>>>

> i find myself wondering how many English-language CM journals have

gone under

> due to lack of interest. i think there is a general disinclination

to read anything these

> days, for Americans anyway.

>

> rh

 

It is the American narcissistic, naive arrogance. " Why should I read

a medical journal? " what could possibly be in there? What could I

learn from other people? Medicine can all be felt, no need to read a

book or article. There are 100's of journals a year coming out of

China, with new and old information! How many people read them in the

states (Besides the Chinese)?? You know there are some translated… I

guess reading would take time away from developing something new and

shiny. Not to compare with western medicine, but would you trust a

western doc who didn't read journals keeping up with the new info.

There is incredible amount of information that has been researched

available NOW!

 

On the high horse again,

 

-Jason

[Guest guest]

As a whole, no. But the potential is clearly there. We have some

great teachers, some great texts in all areas. For example, the Jiao

Shude texts on herbal medicine, Shudo Denmai's work, there is a lot of

great stuff to connect to.

 

The most important thing for graduates of CM schools to realize is that

their study needs to be lifelong, and is just beginning when they leave

school.

 

 

On Jul 29, 2004, at 4:46 PM, kampo36 wrote:

>

> Z'ev,

>

> Do you think the profession has reached a stage in which, by and

> large, practitioners

> are capable of doing this?

>

> Robert

>

[Guest guest]

Mastery was, perhaps, a poor choice of words. No one in their right

mind would say they have mastered traditional diagnosis. I mean the

confidence that one can make an authoritative diagnosis in the

tradition one was trained in, a good percentage of the time.

 

 

On Jul 29, 2004, at 5:27 PM, kampo36 wrote:

 

> Just so as to not put you on the spot, Z'ev, let me answer my own

> query. Based on my

> experience as a practitioner and teacher, I think that maybe 5-10% of

> the profession

> in the US has the abilities you describe. So I personally don't think

> we've reached this

> level as a profession. Please note that I put myself in the 90-95%

> who haven't

> attained any sort of mastery whatsoever. On your list, I'm working on

> the palpation

> and abdominal dx part, and haven't really gotten to any of the other

> skills in any

> meaningful way.

>

> robert hayden

>