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What kind of information?

 

 

does anyone have any information on the facial rejuvenation with

acupuncture protocol designed and taught by Virginia Doran in the US?

 

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Pat asked what kind of information about the Facial

Rejuvenation:

 

has anyone had the training/now uses the protocol? does it

work? does anyone have a sense of Virginia Doran and her

credibility?

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Yes, I took the class in Mercy College in Oct 02. It

deals with the ST meridian (ST 2-9: facial area) to

tighten up wrinkles, etc; I've used it with good

success in the NJ/NY area.

John Garbarini

 

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> does anyone have any information on the facial

> rejuvenation with

> acupuncture protocol designed and taught by Virginia

> Doran in the US?

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> tx

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Her website is at www.holisticbeauty.com. I took her course a few years

ago. It mainly consists of a section of acupuncture protocols (based on

differential diagnosis), which includes massage, and a section on essential

oils for the skin. She also mentions herbs, although not in depth unless

asked. (This may have changed since I took the course.) I have had

several patients who have sought the treatments over a substantial period

of time (6 months or more) and were happy with the results. It is probably

best for those whose face is their fortune (i.e., actors, TV news anchors,

etc.) and who want to postpone facelift surgery. But the average person

will notice improvement as well, often after the first treatment. I found

her to be very knowledgeable and friendly. She originally trained at

Tri-State here in the NY area, but she has gone on to study with others

(Jeffrey Yuen for one) since. She also has a referral list of those who

have done her trainings. A listing of her courses is on her website.

 

Pat

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Pat asked what kind of information about the Facial

Rejuvenation:

 

has anyone had the training/now uses the protocol? does it

work? does anyone have a sense of Virginia Doran and her

credibility?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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We just hosted this workshop at Southwest Acupuncture College in Boulder. It

filled within a week fo the announcement with our student body alone, few

practitioners were able to get in.

 

The protocol is complex and copyrighted for good reason, aside from the

obvious that Virigina has created it. It isn't a cookbook style treatment

and adequate screening and information about why it works and what you are

doing is essential, so really, it's worth attending one of the seminars.

People may share the protocol in spite of the copyright violations but what

has come out of that is missing the depth of the instruction and is fairly

bad medicine in terms of misapplication and not getting results because you

don't really have the whole picture. Before I saw the presentation I

mistakenly thought that it was something you could pick up without the

background. If Virginia publishes the protocol you would have the background

material that is necessary. Also, the weekend is an entire day of clinical

practice and what I observed was that careful (if even slight) correction

was needed.

 

I saw an age spot disappear during a first treatment, facial shape visibly

change, and I saw other things not disappear. The technique involves

knowledge of muscle origin and insertion as well as acupuncture. Some people

were visibly affected, others not so much. It takes repeated treatments to

see the entire effect. Virginia is entering some serious Western research

projects now, so more objective measures will be published. Others will have

to speak to the results of repeated treatments and how long it lasts, as my

experience is limited to this introduction.

 

Many of our volunteers are now clamoring for repeated treatments. Not all

our patients were here for improving appearance. We had people who were post

stroke, who had minor scars, age spots etc.

 

Not all the attendees ended up feeling that they would use the technique. It

is a lot of needles, and can exaccerbate blood pressure problems, headaches,

etc. It is an intense treatment.

 

The most remarakble thing for me to see is that the approach is a total body

approach with adequate TCM differentiation and regard for the individual

presentation.

 

The technique is clearly not for everyone (we turned away a volunteer who

was on meds for high blood pressure) nor will all practitioners want to

learn it, but it is based on solid theory and solid knowledge of anatomy. It

may introduce the benefits of acupuncture to people who might not otherwise

consider it, and often patients are amazed to find out how many other things

our medicine can address.

 

Hope this helps.

 

Valerie Hobbs, LAc

Boulder Campus Director

Southwwest acupuncture College

 

 

 

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Pat asked what kind of information about the Facial

Rejuvenation:

 

has anyone had the training/now uses the protocol? does it

work? does anyone have a sense of Virginia Doran and her

credibility?

 

 

 

 

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I went to Virginia's workshop expecting a light fluffy presentation about

how improve cosmetic appearance using acupuncture and aromatherapy.

 

I have to say I was blown away by Virgina's in depth research and knowledge

of a subject that is in fact quite profound. Virginia sees the face as the

outward presentation of an inner state of health.

 

Since completing the course I have had some excellent results with clients -

but again it works because you are treating the whole person. Clients come

for cosmetic reasons and are amazed when chronic health complaints start to

fade away.

 

I'm very much a fan of Virginia and would strongly recommend her courses.

..

 

Kind regards

 

Dermot

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Where are you practising? I am an acupuncturist in cork and would like to

make an appointment please with you.

regards

Deirdre Mackesy

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Dermot O'Connor <dermot

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Re: ac facials

 

 

> I went to Virginia's workshop expecting a light fluffy presentation about

> how improve cosmetic appearance using acupuncture and aromatherapy.

>

> I have to say I was blown away by Virgina's in depth research and

knowledge

> of a subject that is in fact quite profound. Virginia sees the face as

the

> outward presentation of an inner state of health.

>

> Since completing the course I have had some excellent results with

clients -

> but again it works because you are treating the whole person. Clients

come

> for cosmetic reasons and are amazed when chronic health complaints start

to

> fade away.

>

> I'm very much a fan of Virginia and would strongly recommend her courses.

> .

>

> Kind regards

>

> Dermot

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It's proprietary info, but it basically works the ST

meridian for the facial part, but, as someone else

mentioned, it's also an acup tx, which helps clear up

other problems the client has.

JG

 

--- tryfan wrote:

> Pat asked what kind of information about the Facial

> Rejuvenation:

>

> has anyone had the training/now uses the protocol?

> does it

> work? does anyone have a sense of Virginia Doran and

> her

> credibility?

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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