Guest guest Posted July 8, 2004 Report Share Posted July 8, 2004 Attillio: << Yes, please no reference to the ego aswell as any religion. I'll edit these areas from any future messages. >> Lon: We can't discuss Buddhism, Confucianism, or Daoism in the context of TCM? And you place import on historical significance in the medicine? Or, can we only mention these things intellectually but never mention the impact they have in our lives or our patients healing? As to ego, I'm telling you that cleavage from the real (yang) to the unreal (yin) is the engine that drives all internal syndrome patterns and creates the vulnerability to all external patterns. The dysfunctional qi that supports ego is the engine that drives all constitutional dysfunction in terms of the five element system. And, all stagnations addressed by TCM including possession, blood and qi stagnation, or wind/cold/damp are the physiological embodiments of ego. Either Chinese medicine is wholistic or it isn't. Either it includes the mind and spirit or it doesn't. The conditioned mind feels comfortable embracing feel good " spirituality " and by discussing it intellectually in terms of metaphors like shen, hun, po, or ling. I'm interested in spirit as it impacts the medicine now, in the West where I practice, devoid of myth and superstition. I'm interested in a CM that tears the false self of humanity to shreds and ressurects what is real. As far as I'm concerned Attillio's prohibition reflects the materialism that still deeply poisons the heart of TCM and keeps it from fulfilling its potential as being the cutting edge medicine for the 21st century. -Lon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2004 Report Share Posted July 8, 2004 I'll respond to this at the weekend when i have more time. Attilio Spiritpathpress@a... wrote: > > Attillio: > << Yes, please no reference to the ego aswell as any religion. I'll edit these > > areas from any future messages. > > Lon: We can't discuss Buddhism, Confucianism, or Daoism in the context of > TCM? And you place import on historical significance in the medicine? Or, can we > only mention these things intellectually but never mention the impact they > have in our lives or our patients healing? > As to ego, I'm telling you that cleavage from the real (yang) to the > unreal (yin) is the engine that drives all internal syndrome patterns and creates > the vulnerability to all external patterns. The dysfunctional qi that supports > ego is the engine that drives all constitutional dysfunction in terms of the > five element system. And, all stagnations addressed by TCM including > possession, blood and qi stagnation, or wind/cold/damp are the physiological > embodiments of ego. > Either Chinese medicine is wholistic or it isn't. Either it includes the > mind and spirit or it doesn't. The conditioned mind feels comfortable > embracing feel good " spirituality " and by discussing it intellectually in terms of > metaphors like shen, hun, po, or ling. I'm interested in spirit as it impacts the > medicine now, in the West where I practice, devoid of myth and superstition. > I'm interested in a CM that tears the false self of humanity to shreds and > ressurects what is real. As far as I'm concerned Attillio's prohibition reflects > the materialism that still deeply poisons the heart of TCM and keeps it from > fulfilling its potential as being the cutting edge medicine for the 21st > century. -Lon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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