AE

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Hi Tami,

I would most enjoy your perspective on the AE treatment,

 

> thanks muchly,

 

> Ann

 

Hi Ann,

 

I just looked up AE in JR. Worsley's book TRADITIONAL ACUPUNCTURE, Volume II.

Here is his definition: " This is a condition in which the flow of Qi energy in

the body, mind and spirit becomes polluted. It no longer provides

nourishment but instead destroys the creative work of the elements and

officials. It generally begins with contamination to one of the predominately

Yin officials, such as severe shock or repeated battering from over-use of

drugs, or alcohol, and spreads through the system across the Ke Cycle. "

 

In THE CLINICAL PRACTICE OF ACUPUNCTURE, Lonny Jarret (LJ) shares Peter Eckman's

view that xieqi ( " evil qi " ) is the basis for AE...and credits French

Acupuncturist Jacques Lavier for the transmission of the technique to JR

Worsley at a two week course that he gave in 1948-Worsley's initial introduction

to acupuncture. Furthermore, according to Eckman a similar protocol was

recommended by Li Dongyuan (1180-1251 C.E.)

 

According to Jarret, AE can develop from either internal or external

sources.....and says that Li Dongyuan sites a deficiency of central qi as

causing one to be most vulnerable to AE. Internally generated AE may arise out

of negative beliefs about life or destructive addictive behavior. Where as

external contraction could result from trauma, exposure to drugs or external

pathogens(heat/fire, damp, cold, dry,wind). A patient with AE is more likely to

be agitated and have difficulties introspecting (I've had several that tried to

insist upon reading or talking on the cell phone during treatment.) The pulse

might have a tight kind of quality in the affected organ positions or overall

and will usually soften to some degree following the treatment.

 

I've personally found AE to be the single most powerful tool that I have in my

repertoire. I use it inititally on every single patient (with the exception of

those I deem to require the dragon treatment first.) I've seen huge shifts on

both the physical and emotional levels (which by the way, leads me to a

correction that I wanted to make from my initial e-mail on the treatment for

possession.....I made a comment about my disappointment in the Worsley system to

impact the physical level. I've seen many profound shifts on the physical level

utilizing Worsley's system. My comment was reflecting my frustration on some of

the limitations that I feel could be better addressed by integrating it with

more TCM philosophy)

 

Some of the most powerful shifts that I have seen after AE treatment have been

on patients following car accidents ....which supports the condition

developing following a severe shock. I also frequently witness very strong

emotional reactions. As a matter of fact, a local musician (I live in Music

City:-) wrote a song about her experience with the treatment and entitled it

" For all the times I didn't Cry " (may be published soon by universal records.)

During her show, she told the story of how every time I hit these points on her

back (pericardium and heart) she would begin to cry in grief over a lost

relationship that she hadn't been able to get past. Soon after the treatment she

started another relationship for the first time. She had initially come for

back pain, but continued treatment for this reason......this is the true beauty

behind JR Worsley's system that I see time and time again (though I should add

that after some period of time, some physical problems became more illuminated

and needed to be addressed using TCM theory and

treatment....here again my stance for combining the two.)

 

Another interesting case was in my first year of practice with a client with a

past history of heavy smoking, who had AE on the Lung. A few days after the AE

treatment I

received a call from the patient telling me that he had developed a golf ball

sized knot on his back. I was very scared (questioning myself if I had used

clean needle technique properly ..imagined a lawsuit

coming, loss of license etc.) As it turns out, the knot was on the lung shu

point...it was not red or inflamed as would have been indicative of

infection...and it dissipated after a few days. I truly believe the " evil qi "

had been pulled out.

 

For some reason or another I've also seen this pattern show up in women with

severe left arm pain...and the AE is usually on the pericardium and heart

meridians. One woman had suffered with this pain for almost two years...was

almost suicidal with no hope after seeing 13 different physicians, including a

visit to mayo clinic. One AE treatment and the pain was reduced by 50%. Next

treatment completely alleviated it. Ironically her sister came in with the same

symptom two years later. What does this suggest?

 

The majority of clients respond to it in a very positive way. On a few occasions

a client will develop lightheadedness and/or nausea.....that usually doesn't

last long. I was taught to treat with the patient sitting upright, but have

found that people do get tired and often appreciate the treatment given lying

face down....seem to be

able to relax and really let go. Most everyone reports being tired or sleepy

after the treatment....often go home and sleep for hours. Sometimes I think

the fatigue is the result of having some false energy removed i.e, running

compulsively off of adrenalin or caffeine. Other times I believe it's because I

left the needles in too long. The length of time is supposed to be determined

based on the reaction of the control needle....but sometimes I've had trouble

discerning what to do when both the

control and therapeutically placed needle are equally red (welcome any feedback

on this.) If the person has pulses that feel excessive and harsh, I will lean

towards keeping them in longer. However, if the pulses are weak, I try to not

leave them in for more than 20 minutes...and will repeat it on subsequent

visits. Recently I attended a Nutritional workshop and learned a diagnostic

test for adrenal fatigue....a prolonged skin reaction was said to be a + sign.

Based on the individuals that I have seen with this reaction, I'm hypothesizing

that the equally red control should alert me to this and therefore exercise

caution about leaving the needle in for too long and causing additional

exhaustion

unnecessarily.

 

Occasionally I will have someone who is obviously very toxic (smoking, drinking,

caffeine, meds, etc.) but shows no response whatsoever to the needles. Again

this reinforces the limitations of acupuncture in such situations. If the client

chooses to continue acupuncture and is reasonably compliant in making some

changes, I will keep repeating the AE tx for short periods (LJ says that this

can be a sign of a person being so ill that AE is the only available qi and

cautions in leaving the needles in for longer than 15 minutes in order to avoid

perpetuating the illness by depleting them of their last reserve of qi.) On a

few occasions I've also seen this lack of reaction if I first perform AE prior

to the Dragon treatment on someone who was actually in need. In such a case,

there will usually be a + reaction to the AE treatment that I will be performed

on the next appointment following the ID or ED treatment.

 

I probably err on the side of over treatment here...perhaps because it's been

ingrained in me to always clear the AE or risk spreading the evil qi. If I

haven't seen a client in a while, I will always do this as a first step. I will

also do it more frequently if he/she has a rather toxic history.

 

Not only is AE a wonderful treatment, I've also found that it can serve as a

tool for assessment and treatment planning. If the heart and or pericardium

have taken a hit, I will surely add some spirit points for support ie., CV 14,

15, Ht 7, Per 6 or 7, UB 38, 39 (TCM 43 & 44). You can sometimes determine the

root source of AE by the pattern of organs involved. For instance, if the person

develops a + reaction on the liver and spleen points, it suggests that AE began

in the Liver, which then threw the AE across the KE cycle to the

Spleen. I might follow up at some point with a treatment to harmonize liver and

spleen if this is supported by other symptoms ( anger, digestive problems, etc.)

 

I hope this is helpful. Again I refer anyone who would like to learn more to

LJ's book. I guess you can tell I think highly of this work:-) http//:

www.spiritpathpress.com I also understand that he moderates an e-group.

 

Tami

 

PS. I apologize for all the typos in previous posts. Whenever I proof read, I

only see what I intended to write instead of the error. This time I used speel

check:-)

 

 

[Guest guest]

This is an interesting discussion, and I am glad you describe AE in

such detail. I just recently read Lonny Jarrett's description in his

" Clinical Practice " text you mention as well.

 

My conclusion is that both Lonny and Dr. Worsley are/were talking about

xie qi/evil qi. However, with pinyin or Chinese characters, it is

impossible to make any historical connection to the source of this

concept, and this has been the case for years. I've heard of AE and

possession for years, but no one has ever been able to adequately

explain those terms to me (or any of my colleagues).

 

The quote from Worsley's book below, and in Lonny's book are clearly

related to the concept in Li Dongyuan's " Treatise on the Spleen and

Stomach " , but are also never mentioned in any of the Leamington Spa

books. That concept is yin huo or yin fire, heat that develops

internally from vacuity of qi, especially spleen qi. Dr. Li says that

emotional imbalances are the major cause, leading to heart fire which

by the sheng/generating cycle, damages the spleen earth, leading to a

buildup of turbid yin in the body. It is this turbid yin that

generates internal heat and leads to a multiplicity of health problems.

 

To be continued.

 

 

On Jul 6, 2004, at 1:00 PM, Tami Slayton wrote:

 

> I just looked up AE in JR. Worsley's book TRADITIONAL ACUPUNCTURE,

> Volume II. Here is his definition: " This is a condition in which

> the flow of Qi energy in the body, mind and spirit becomes polluted.

> It no longer provides

> nourishment but instead destroys the creative work of the elements and

> officials. It generally begins with contamination to one of the

> predominately Yin officials, such as severe shock or repeated

> battering from over-use of drugs, or alcohol, and spreads through the

> system across the Ke Cycle. "

>

> In THE CLINICAL PRACTICE OF ACUPUNCTURE, Lonny Jarret (LJ) shares

> Peter Eckman's view that xieqi ( " evil qi " ) is the basis for AE...and

> credits French Acupuncturist Jacques Lavier for the transmission of

> the technique to JR

> Worsley at a two week course that he gave in 1948-Worsley's initial

> introduction to acupuncture. Furthermore, according to Eckman a

> similar protocol was recommended by Li Dongyuan (1180-1251 C.E.)

>

> According to Jarret, AE can develop from either internal or external

> sources.....and says that Li Dongyuan sites a deficiency of central qi

> as causing one to be most vulnerable to AE. Internally generated AE

> may arise out of negative beliefs about life or destructive addictive

> behavior. Where as external contraction could result from trauma,

> exposure to drugs or external pathogens(heat/fire, damp, cold,

> dry,wind). A patient with AE is more likely to be agitated and have

> difficulties introspecting (I've had several that tried to insist upon

> reading or talking on the cell phone during treatment.) The pulse

> might have a tight kind of quality in the affected organ positions or

> overall and will usually soften to some degree following the

> treatment.