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Did anyone hear or attended the seminar of Jeffrey Yuen at Austin (Texas)

held june 5 & 6 on extraordinary vessels?

Can i have same trace?

 

Marvi

 

Hi Gab...

 

-

" Dr. Holmes " <aryaone

<Chinese Medicine >

Sunday, June 13, 2004 4:01 PM

Re: Re: Acupuncture and Pregnancy

 

 

> It does not have a happy ending because the fatally blind fait you had

> on a teacher you perceived wise enough to entrust some one else's life to,

> is still in place.

>

> It also does not have a happy ending because the doubt on words spoken

> and heard is still unclarified.

>

> And it does not have a happy ending because the need to romanticize a

> teacher and

> make her right at all costs is still there.

>

> Dr. Holmes Keikobad

> MB BS DPH Ret. DIP AC NCCAOM LIC AC CO & AZ

> www.acu-free.com - 15 CEUS by video.

> NCCAOM reviewed. Approved in CA & most states.

> " heylaurag " <heylaurag

> Sunday, June 13, 2004 12:58 AM

> Re: Acupuncture and Pregnancy

>

>

> > Hi Attilio and all,

> >

> > When I was a student I had a friend who was less than three months

> > pregnant and having terrible constipation. During an acupuncture

> > appointment with a teacher I asked her what point would be safe to

> > use on my friend for constipation. She suggested SJ 6. In the back

> > of my mind I thought it sounded a bit risky, but I trusted this

> > teacher very much, so I did the point without much thought. My

> > friend had a miscarriage within 24 hours. I will never know whether

> > the point is to blame, but I have always wondered. In retrospect I

> > think that maybe a language barrier is to blame---perhaps my teacher

> > did not catch that I was asking about a PREGNANT woman with

> > constipation.

> >

> > There is a happy ending to this story, by the way: three months

> > later my friend got pregnant again and now has a healthy boy.

> >

> > Laura

> >

> >

> >

> > Chinese Medicine , " Attilio

> > DAlberto " <attiliodalberto> wrote:

> > > Thank you all for getting back to me regarding this topic. I am

> > > quite surprised that anaesthesia acupuncture isn't widely used.

> > This

> > > was one of the aspects of Chinese medicine that first interested

> > me.

> > > This leads me to think about other aspects of TCM that may not be

> > > all they seem, for instance acupuncture and pregnancy.

> > >

> > > Does anyone know or had the misfortune to induce a miscarriage via

> > > stimulation of acupoints contraindicated in pregnancy such as Hegu

> > > and Sanyinjiao as suggested in the classics? I understand that

> > > different acupuncturists have different styles, stimulation and

> > > these may influence adverse effects, but to what degree?

> > >

> > > Attilio

> > >

> > > Chinese Medicine , " briansbeard "

> > > <brian_s_beard@h...> wrote:

> > > > One of my instructors in school was an orthopedic surgeon in

> > > china.

> > > > He said that the difficulty of using acupuncture anesthesia is it

> > > > might only work for 95% of the pain, but this isn't good enough

> > > for

> > > > most patients when you're cutting in to them. It has to work for

> > > 100%

> > > > of the pain or they couldn't use it. Consequently western

> > > anesthesia

> > > > would always have to be there as a backup. It's my guess that

> > > it's

> > > > easier to use western anesthesia all the time than try something

> > > that

> > > > might need a backup.

> > > >

> > > > Someone else I knew used it for dental work with good results. It

> > > > basically was a way to reduce the amount of chemicals you would

> > be

> > > > shot up with for those with a sensitivity to them. So if it

> > didn't

> > > > work 100% it didn't matter, but whatever gains could be made from

> > > it

> > > > the better. The patient would be awake during the procedure and

> > > could

> > > > adjust the amplitude settings on the tens machine in real time

> > for

> > > > best results.

> > > >

> > > > --brian

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Membership requires that you do not post any commerical, swear,

religious,

> spam messages,flame another member or swear.

> >

> >

> http://babel.altavista.com/

> >

> >

> and adjust

> accordingly.

> >

> > If you , it takes a few days for the messages to stop being

> delivered.

> >

> >

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