energetic sensitivity

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In a message dated 5/29/04 10:03:34 AM, rfinkelstein writes:

 

<< Personally, I think that time is well spent learning " energetic

 

sensitivity " . I practice Qigong and Tai Chi but I think there are many

 

other ways. This type of training in schools may be more worthwhile

 

than memorizing point protocols. Just a thought.

 

>>

 

I couldn't agree more with this statement. My own method of study has been

the form called Body-Mind Centering®, which studies the 'mind' of different

organ systems, cells, and subcellular components through hand-on work and

movement. I studied all this before entering TCM school. It has been shocking

and

dispiriting to me that so little of the educational time at school (I'm in my

last year now) has been spent opening students to their own knowing and

providing experience and guidance in energetic sensitivity. As a third year

student

I was dismayed that my classmates giggled when we were taught to put

stethoscope to the chest. Apparently being close to breasts and nipples (even

male)

made people really nervous! It's understandable, I don't blame the students,

but I think the school is terribly remiss in not teaching and modeling

appropriate understanding of touch and the issues surrounding it. All the

memorization

in the world is not worth much if the practitioner doesn't have personal

integration and understanding of energy, touch and all the boundary issues that

come up when working one-on-one with another human being.

 

-roseanne s.

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Hi Roseanne,

 

 

First of all - nice to meet you. :-)

 

I believe that all of asian medicine first arose out of a deeper

understanding of the energies of the body - through meditation,

qigong, yoga, tai chi type practices. From this deeper understanding,

came the different notions on how to maintain health and bring people

back to goo health.

 

However, it appears that the government in China, back in the 70s,

sought to remove all of these understandings and replace them with a

more mechanical view of the universe. I am not sure why. Probably, it

is easier to control people who have a very machanistic, deterministic

view of things.

 

But in my studies, I have found that much of the energistic approaches

are still maintained in non-TCM asian approaches - e.g, Japan, Tibet,

India, Vietnam, the Mark Seem Tri-City school, etc. My guess is that

TCM has received the most attention because China is heavily marketing

it as an export product, and has " packaged " it so that it can be

exported easily - both as an educational product and as physical

products. There is nothing necessarily wrong with this. People

assimilate what they can assimilate and TCM may be it for now.

Overtime, it may change and more of the energetics may be brough back

in as people look for deeper understandings. We shall see. :-)

 

Thank you very much for your response. I enjoyed reading it.

 

Regards,

Rich

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Hi. While I agree that being more sensitive to the energies, substances,

tissues, processes etc. could only be a good thing, and a truly adept energy

worker must have this I guess, I think the basics (point-channel

location-function etc., anatomy-physiology) needs to be embedded in the

mindstream of everyone using this medical system or branches of it, esp when

guiding one's qi.

Because when merging with the body/energy of another being, the awareness and

imagination cease being two separate operative centers, and join in the natural

experience of the exchange or transfer and add to the impulse or urge to heal

(moving -adding-reducing-cooling-warming-adjusting tissues etc, its really kind

of magical if viewed from other human interaction). The more you know and feel

(without one's ego or self in the way) the better. I'm glad to hear people say

about the actual level of involvement in this branch, that is, their subjective

connecting with the micro areas of the body-connecting with the tissue or flow

of blood or energy-- really into it. A landscape where size, personal

boundaries, and past barrier conditioning doesn't apply. Where your mind or

healing awareness is in your fingertips or the edge of your qi field which

penetrates your patient pleasantly(here again reality and imagination are

interdependent). It used to be a 'higher' training, but that

old-ways stuff takes too long, and today's pace is different. These days is its

better to develop someone that demonstrates a knack for it, and other signs.

Possibly it is a societal flaw or a defense, that we tend to be so unfeeling,

but I'm not sure this can always be taught. I know it can't. It is asking a lot

to break someone and have the time to put them back together. It might take

everything you have to get through it, I'm not good with words though. sorry.

 

ra6151 wrote:

 

In a message dated 5/29/04 10:03:34 AM, rfinkelstein writes:

 

<< Personally, I think that time is well spent learning " energetic

 

sensitivity " . I practice Qigong and Tai Chi but I think there are many

 

other ways. This type of training in schools may be more worthwhile

 

than memorizing point protocols. Just a thought.

 

>>

 

I couldn't agree more with this statement. My own method of study has been

the form called Body-Mind Centering®, which studies the 'mind' of different

organ systems, cells, and subcellular components through hand-on work and

movement. I studied all this before entering TCM school. It has been shocking

and

dispiriting to me that so little of the educational time at school (I'm in my

last year now) has been spent opening students to their own knowing and

providing experience and guidance in energetic sensitivity. As a third year

student

I was dismayed that my classmates giggled when we were taught to put

stethoscope to the chest. Apparently being close to breasts and nipples (even

male)

made people really nervous! It's understandable, I don't blame the students,

but I think the school is terribly remiss in not teaching and modeling

appropriate understanding of touch and the issues surrounding it. All the

memorization

in the world is not worth much if the practitioner doesn't have personal

integration and understanding of energy, touch and all the boundary issues that

come up when working one-on-one with another human being.

 

-roseanne s.

 

 

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