Lungs-Vessels ?

[Guest guest]

At another acupuncture list a member wrote the following:

 

" ....that LU is responsible to blood vessels is in Nei Jing (can't

recite chapter and verse, sorry). "

 

Anyone on this list that know where in the Nei Jing this would be found?

 

Warm regards

 

Holger Wendt

[Guest guest]

Hi Holger,

 

> At another acupuncture list a member wrote the following:

> " ....that LU is responsible to blood vessels is in Nei Jing (can't

> recite chapter and verse, sorry). "

> Anyone on this list that know where in the Nei Jing this would be found?

> Warm regards

> Holger Wendt

 

Reciting from the English translation of the Nwi Jing, Chapter 8, P.55

of the Wu/Wu translation (China Technology and Science Press):

 

" The heart is the supreme commander or the monarch of the human body,

it dominates the spirit, ideology and thought of man. "

 

" The lung governs the various vessels and regulates the energy of the

whole body, like a prime minister assisting the king to reign the

country. "

 

I hope this helps.

 

Regards,

Rich

[Guest guest]

Rich:

> " The lung governs the various vessels and regulates the energy of the

> whole body, like a prime minister assisting the king to reign the

> country. "

>

> I hope this helps.

>

It does not.

Which vessels, channels?

 

Dr. Holmes Keikobad

MB BS DPH Ret. DIP AC NCCAOM LIC AC CO & AZ

www.acu-free.com - 15 CEUS by video.

NCCAOM reviewed. Approved in CA & most states.

[Guest guest]

Dear Dr. Keikobad,

 

> > It does not. Which vessels, channels?

 

It does not what?

 

The question was where was the quote in the Nei Jing and I cited the

chapter and quote in the translation by Wu/Wu. Are you saying that the

Nei Jing doesn't state this? It may or may not .. this is the

translation that I have.

 

Or are you saying that the Nei Jing is wrong and lung does not govern

the vessels. This is what the Wu/Wu translation states. It can be

interpreted in any fashion that one likes. The translation is an

interpretation to begin with. :-) Personally, from my experiences with

Tai Chi and Qi gong, the Lung does govern the vessels. It " breathes "

into them. But this is just my interpretation.

 

Regards,

Rich

 

Chinese Medicine , " Dr. Holmes

Keikobad " <acuheal@e...> wrote:

> Rich:

> > " The lung governs the various vessels and regulates the energy of the

> > whole body, like a prime minister assisting the king to reign the

> > country. "

> >

> > I hope this helps.

> >

[Guest guest]

Rich:

.... Personally, from my experiences with

> Tai Chi and Qi gong, the Lung does govern the vessels. It " breathes "

> into them. But this is just my interpretation.

>

>

That's it. LU induces oxygenation into the vessels, may they be vascular or

qi-based.

 

Dr. Holmes Keikobad

MB BS DPH Ret. DIP AC NCCAOM LIC AC CO & AZ

www.acu-free.com - 15 CEUS by video.

NCCAOM reviewed. Approved in CA & most states.

[Guest guest]

Dear Dr. Keikobad,

> Rich:

> ... Personally, from my experiences with

> > Tai Chi and Qi gong, the Lung does govern the vessels. It " breathes "

> > into them. But this is just my interpretation.

> >

> That's it. LU induces oxygenation into the vessels, may they be

vascular or

> qi-based.

>

> Dr. Holmes Keikobad

 

Yes, this is how I would look at it also. I shy away from " literal " or

concrete interpretations - e.g. this governs this and that governs

that. They are all ultimately working together. I try to just

understand how the whole system operates, both internally and with the

external world - since, I believe, it is all ultimately connected.

 

My current perspective likens the body to a large flowing pipe system

that gates out to the external world. What moves the qi? What gates

(opens and shuts) the body to the outside world? What creates the

closed system (the body)? The Mind, Spirit, and Soul?

 

Thank you for sharing with me your perspective.

 

Regards,

Rich