Guest guest Posted May 22, 2004 Report Share Posted May 22, 2004 Regarding the decoction machines... I've worked in a pharmacy that uses them, and although in this particular pharmacy, I don't think quality of herbs was the issue, I saw a couple of problems: 1) tap water 2) using a machine like that necessitates only one decoction time for all herbs. aromatic herbs are supposed to be decocted much less and metals/bones/shells much longer.. when I asked about this it was explained to me that it didn't matter for the aromatics since the machine was closed but I couldn't help thinking that cooking those herbs longer could cause breakdowns in chemical compositions of key ingredients 3) measuring the water is not an exact science.. many times, although using the prescribed amount of water for certain number of days produced either more or less of the liquid formula than was required. Usually the pharmacy erred on the side of more which would mean less concentrated dosages. In my experience the best possible situation is cooking the herbs at home. I've had much more noticeble results with this than with powders (or of course pills). But what can ya do? I like to tell my patients that making the formulas adds to the healing.. the aroma of your formula permeating the house, the love and energy put into taking care of yourself, but for some people this just isn't possible. It just goes to show that there just isn't a substitute for old fashioned TLC. :> Maybe in the future someone will design a machine that takes into account the issues i've mentioned, but I still don't know if it could ever be as effective as doing it yourself. Kind Regards, Nadia _______________ Get 200+ ad-free, high-fidelity stations and LIVE Major League Baseball Gameday Audio! http://radio.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200491ave/direct/01/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2004 Report Share Posted May 22, 2004 Hi Nadia, Chinese Medicine , " East Dakota " <eastdakota@h...> wrote: > > Regarding the decoction machines... Our family used herbs for over 15 years. We used all forms, decoctions (in all types of pots and machines), powders, tablets, and I agree there are trade-offs with all approaches. But, in our final observations, we found that there were so many variables it was impossible to say why herbs worked sometimes and why they didn't work at all other times. Nowadays, we have found a more straightforward and simple approach to maintaining our health - but it took 20 years of exploration to get to where we are at now, and I am sure we will continue to discover new ideas in the future. I guess each person needs to figure out what works best for themselves. Thanks for sharing your perspective with me, Regards, Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2004 Report Share Posted May 23, 2004 This post somewhat veers from the main thread, but may be found acceptable to charitable souls. Once long ago on in Eastern clime, when I was in younger years and therefore wiser, it so chanced that in my aimless wanderings on my 350 cc single cylinder Ariel motorbike, over rough terrain in the foothills of the Solomons, as they peter out into the lesser hills, they call them that there, of some 7000 foot above, I came upon a small village tucked into a fold of the rolling terrain, protected from the chill winds, warm and friendly, with some five score folk, who had seemingly lived there from one lifetime into another; in a sort of lesser grade Shangri La. It was evening and I became, almost by default, the guest of the whole village. The red cheeked chubby kids swaddled to the teeth in fur and many colored caps, swarmed around my bike, and I had to stand her up secure fashion to make sure she did not tip over and cause a sensation. One family got to do the honors for me, and the meal was plain rice of a variety dark as the star studded sky of those parts, you could reach over and touch one in the dead of the night if you wanted to. The utensils were entirely earthen, and the spoon hewn of some hard wood. The fire was from some sort of dung mixed with hay, and it flared clean and bright with an unforgettable aroma. For accompanying gruel they did interesting things with home grown taro roots, graced with a sort of salad of fresh leaves of an aromatic nature, raw tomato and strewn with spliced with ginger. By 8 PM by my wrist watch [they had no watches nor clocks] when it seemed the dead of the night to me, hundreds of miles from the nearest town; the meal was served, under the stars, on wooden plate. Hot, aromatic, fresh, of rare taste that the flavor lingers in my nostrils to this day. By standards of where I live now, the whole dinner for 5 could not have cost more than 50 cents US. As I slept on the roof of the little adobe home, as guest of honor, I looked upon a sky unashamedly brilliant, and could read off the constellations which had to visit me that night. Such silence, as it sang to you. Such a quiet, that it seemed noisy to my city ears. In the morning, which begins an hour before dawn, I was given ht tea, again in an earthen cup baked solid, and the leaf was tangy, and laced with pieces of raw sugar and ginger. By 6 AM I had primed my bike, and shaken hands with all, and with a thought that this moment would never return, I kicked the engine to life, and rolled out of the village onto the downward winding dirt road centuries old. Few minutes out I turned to look and the village had as good as disappeared, the rise and fall of the hills does that. I would give much to relive that evening and taste that fare again. But to do that I would have to tune up my bike, and shed time and it's false stories, and go to the foot of the lofty Solomons, all of which is not permitted by the Doors that Close, we walk only once on any road. Dr. Holmes Keikobad MB BS DPH Ret. DIP AC NCCAOM LIC AC CO & AZ www.acu-free.com - 15 CEUS by video. NCCAOM reviewed. Approved in CA & most states. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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