Chris: Integrative Medicine v Alternative Medicine

May 14, 2004

Hi All, & Hi Chris,

Chris wrote:

> Because, much like , they still believe that

> without out western medicine, humanity would be in a very bad

> state, so they turn a blind eye to the problem. We know that there

> are two sides to western medicine and they must be thought of

> separately.

Hey, Chris, you do not know me well. FYI, though I have not

perfect sight in one eye, both eyes are wide open!

MRCVS = Member of the Royal College of Veterinary Surgeons. I

am proud to have that qualification, and very grateful for the insights

that my vet training bestowed. It was an ideal stepping-stone to

further studies in healing. I use it (with other contact details) in my

standard email address NOT as a put-down to others, but so that

recipients can know my basic degree background.

Though I treat people as well as animals, I am not [and never

claimed to be] a medical physician. I have been a professional vet

researcher for almost 40 years. I know the weaknesses, bad

practices, and blatant commercialism that is widespread in the

WM model. That is why I have studied (and used) other systems

for more than 30 years now! That said, I also know great WM

scientists, academics and docs, who are committed, loving and

talented people

> [WM] Trauma care saves lives.

So does WM nutrition, diagnostics, obstetrics, surgery, treatment

of acute conditions, chemotherapy/radiotherapy of certain cancer

types, peg-feeding, electrolyte use, etc.

> The [WM] treatment of chronic symptoms kills.

Yes, some WM longterm therapy has adverse effects, even kills.

But, be fair Chris: many longterm treatments save or prolong lives.

I agree that those of us familiar with safer modalities should

educate the public to their applications and highlight the more

dangerous aspects of long-term drug use, if that can be avoided.

Chris, this list has several WM-trained members. I ask you to bear

that in mind. Flaming is not just a personal attack [i take no

offense from your note]; it ALSO includes attack on one or more

groups of people, such as WM professionals.

IMO, one-sided or offensive statements damning WM except in

very narrow areas are destructive. They destroy mutual respect

between the extremes on both sides of the argument.

Best regards,

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May 14, 2004

I appreciate your critiquing of what I have said and agree to much of

what you have said. I get that you are an honorable man serving in your best

capacity. I did not mean to sully your reputation in any way.

To make myself clear, I think the western diagnostics are by majority

excellent. I have no problem with that at all. Some of what is being tested

for

is pointless and the resulting prescriptions, not only don't solve the

problem, but damage the body as well.

I do not hold the Docs responsible for this. It is policy put forth by

people who have been blind sided by the drug companies who promote what they

claim to be miraculous remedies supported by often times bogus studies and given

to millions of people which often turns out to be fatal.

However, the ability of modern medical techniques to take a physical

being and analyze it minutely is not only amazing, but I believe will open up

doors of healing that we have only begun to recognize.

I do know that there are some really good drugs out there. I would be a

fool to not admit that. What is upsetting the blatant disregard to life in

policy of many of the most common drugs out there.

What truly upsetting to me is with the all the truly bad drugs out there

killing thousands upon thousands, the FDA goes after relatively benign

supplements that have been found to be of use.

I know I have been speaking in generalities. It is a general policy I

would like to change. Doesn't mean I think all drugs are bad and all natural

products are good.

I do believe that if our Docs were to push proven remedies that support

the body rather than block function, our world would be a lot better off. Of

course, given the current laws, they can't.

Unless we change the views of congress, about the way chronic illness

should be approached, millions more will die unnecessary and it will cost our

governments huge sums of money to pay for primary drugs and then drugs to cover

the complications of the primary drugs.

IMHO,

Chris

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