Guest guest Posted April 28, 2004 Report Share Posted April 28, 2004 Long ago in an Eastern land I had a practice which catered to city folk, and sometimes to the Desert People who would ride in. These were fierce folk, who never mixed with the town dwellers. They would live in raw desert hundreds of miles from civilization, and apparently fare well, I never saw a single hypertensive or anyone with anything like a cardiac condition. Stress and depression were unknown and there were not even words to describe the conditions. One of the chiefs had taken to smoking the " hookah " , the hubble-bubble, in the tent, which housed a community of twenty, and had heard words from the lady of the brood, and decided to give up the luxury, there is no woman madder than a Desert woman if she is so minded. He came in to me once a week, all sand and dust upto the eyelids, and after the pleasantries I would place needles, mostly by an innovative protocol I would invent as we went along. Life became tolerable as he smoked less and she smiled more, and I became the unsung hero of that particular household. Till one day he comes in, annoyed and dark of eye. He glowers and scowls and broods and prevaricates, and in time comes to the point; that being that he has developed an evil taste in his nostrils which is much akin to what one voids, and if this has anything to do with an inherent fault in him. And I say, not so, when one takes acupuncture for smoking, the taste is likely to change, and this too shall pass etc. And he says if the smell and taste are from within and therefore his offal seems to riseth to the head. And I say, I don't rightly know wherefore it comes from, but his offal is where it belongs, and that it will go away. And he asks, childlike, is this on my troth. And I smile and say, yes. And he is gone, happy as a ten year old with his first horse, and I realize implications of giving your word to a Desert dweller. They have no concept of lying either. It was a long week before he returned, and told me the smell had left him soon after he left me. Whereby a happy tale. No telling what releases within when one detoxicates for nicotine. Where did the fecal smell come from? I don't know to this day. Input? Dr. Holmes Keikobad MB BS DPH Ret. DIP AC NCCAOM LIC AC CO & AZ www.acu-free.com - 15 CEUS by video. NCCAOM reviewed. Approved in CA & most states. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2004 Report Share Posted April 29, 2004 In a message dated 4/29/04 3:19:25 AM, Chinese Medicine writes: << Hi Robee! Lg? Abbreviation for LunG or LarGe Intestine? At 06:44 PM 4/28/2004, you wrote:<snip> Lg #7. >> sorry. Lg= Lung LI= Large Intestine also Diane- mentioned using LI#5. Dr Sohn's point would be closer in anatomical location to LI#6 since it is proximal to Lg #7...... let me know what happens with your tx. We also use patient education....we give each patient a picture of healthy lungs and lungs polluted by smoking- we ask that the patient wraps this picture around their cigarette box as a reminder. For two pack a day or more smokers- we start by making them smoke 'consciously'. meaning that they can do nothing except smoke a cig when they decide to lite up: no phone conversations, no reading, no drinking their favorite beverage...nothing ...all attention on the cigarette....focus on the way it tastes, feels, etc. We request that if they are not enjoying the cigarette that they put it out. In that manner, by the time they come for the actual treatment they have already brought their awareness to the process. robbee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2004 Report Share Posted April 29, 2004 Hi Robee! Thanks for clearing that up. Good plan on the conscious smoking. At 08:50 AM 4/29/2004, you wrote: >In a message dated 4/29/04 3:19:25 AM, >Chinese Medicine writes: > >Hi Robee! > >Lg? Abbreviation for LunG or LarGe Intestine? Regards, Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2004 Report Share Posted April 29, 2004 <<also Diane- mentioned using LI#5. Dr Sohn's point would be closer in anatomical location to LI#6 since it is proximal to Lg #7...... let me know what happens with your tx.>> Not sure if Diane mentioned LI 5 (snuff box)or not --- but I did. Sorry if I didn't make it clear that the though was to use this as an alternative point and/or to see if it helped with the 'understanding' of the points you gave us. Realized that Dr Sohn's point would be closer to LI 6. And, yes, shall be more than happy to keep you informed as to the outcome of all treatments. Thank you again. kathleen =============================================================== Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2004 Report Share Posted April 29, 2004 gosh it wasn't that unhappy woman who shared his tent, was it? karen Dr. Holmes Keikobad wrote: > Long ago in an Eastern land I had a practice which catered to city > folk, and > sometimes to the Desert People who would ride in. > > These were fierce folk, who never mixed with the town dwellers. They would > live in raw desert hundreds of miles from civilization, and apparently > fare > well, > I never saw a single hypertensive or anyone with anything like a cardiac > condition. Stress and depression were unknown and there were not even > words to describe the conditions. > > One of the chiefs had taken to smoking the " hookah " , the hubble-bubble, in > the tent, which housed a community of twenty, and had heard words from > the lady of the brood, and decided to give up the luxury, there is no > woman > madder than a Desert woman if she is so minded. > > He came in to me once a week, all sand and dust upto the eyelids, and > after > the pleasantries I would place needles, mostly by an innovative protocol I > would invent as we went along. > > Life became tolerable as he smoked less and she smiled more, and I became > the unsung hero of that particular household. > > Till one day he comes in, annoyed and dark of eye. He glowers and scowls > and broods and prevaricates, and in time comes to the point; that > being that > he has developed an evil taste in his nostrils which is much akin to what > one > voids, and if this has anything to do with an inherent fault in him. > > And I say, not so, when one takes acupuncture for smoking, the taste is > likely > to change, and this too shall pass etc. > > And he says if the smell and taste are from within and therefore his offal > seems to riseth to the head. And I say, I don't rightly know wherefore it > comes > from, but his offal is where it belongs, and that it will go away. > > And he asks, childlike, is this on my troth. And I smile and say, yes. And > he is > gone, happy as a ten year old with his first horse, and I realize > implications of > giving your word to a Desert dweller. They have no concept of lying > either. > > It was a long week before he returned, and told me the smell had left him > soon after he left me. Whereby a happy tale. No telling what releases > within > when one detoxicates for nicotine. > > Where did the fecal smell come from? I don't know to this day. > > Input? > > Dr. Holmes Keikobad > MB BS DPH Ret. DIP AC NCCAOM LIC AC CO & AZ > www.acu-free.com - 15 CEUS by video. > NCCAOM reviewed. Approved in CA & most states. > > > > > Membership requires that you do not post any commerical, swear, > religious, spam messages,flame another member or swear. > > > http://babel.altavista.com/ > > > and > adjust accordingly. > > If you , it takes a few days for the messages to stop being > delivered. > > > > ------ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2004 Report Share Posted April 30, 2004 --- " Dr. Holmes Keikobad " <acuheal wrote: > Long ago in an Eastern land I had a practice which > catered to city folk, and > sometimes to the Desert People who would ride in. haha! Bravo! Hugo __________ Messenger - Communicate instantly... " Ping " your friends today! Download Messenger Now http://uk.messenger./download/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2004 Report Share Posted April 30, 2004 I'm thinking they might have shared with camels ! (sorry, couldn't resist - no offence intended) :-) --- Karen <tryfan wrote: > gosh it wasn't that unhappy woman who shared his tent, > was it? > karen > > Dr. Holmes Keikobad wrote: > > > Long ago in an Eastern land I had a practice which > catered to city > > folk, and > > sometimes to the Desert People who would ride in. > > > > These were fierce folk, who never mixed with the town > dwellers. They would > > live in raw desert hundreds of miles from civilization, > and apparently > > fare > > well, > > I never saw a single hypertensive or anyone with > anything like a cardiac > > condition. Stress and depression were unknown and there > were not even > > words to describe the conditions. > > > > One of the chiefs had taken to smoking the " hookah " , > the hubble-bubble, in > > the tent, which housed a community of twenty, and had > heard words from > > the lady of the brood, and decided to give up the > luxury, there is no > > woman > > madder than a Desert woman if she is so minded. > > > > He came in to me once a week, all sand and dust upto > the eyelids, and > > after > > the pleasantries I would place needles, mostly by an > innovative protocol I > > would invent as we went along. > > > > Life became tolerable as he smoked less and she smiled > more, and I became > > the unsung hero of that particular household. > > > > Till one day he comes in, annoyed and dark of eye. He > glowers and scowls > > and broods and prevaricates, and in time comes to the > point; that > > being that > > he has developed an evil taste in his nostrils which is > much akin to what > > one > > voids, and if this has anything to do with an inherent > fault in him. > > > > And I say, not so, when one takes acupuncture for > smoking, the taste is > > likely > > to change, and this too shall pass etc. > > > > And he says if the smell and taste are from within and > therefore his offal > > seems to riseth to the head. And I say, I don't rightly > know wherefore it > > comes > > from, but his offal is where it belongs, and that it > will go away. > > > > And he asks, childlike, is this on my troth. And I > smile and say, yes. And > > he is > > gone, happy as a ten year old with his first horse, and > I realize > > implications of > > giving your word to a Desert dweller. They have no > concept of lying > > either. > > > > It was a long week before he returned, and told me the > smell had left him > > soon after he left me. Whereby a happy tale. No telling > what releases > > within > > when one detoxicates for nicotine. > > > > Where did the fecal smell come from? I don't know to > this day. > > > > Input? > > > > Dr. Holmes Keikobad > > MB BS DPH Ret. DIP AC NCCAOM LIC AC CO & AZ > > www.acu-free.com - 15 CEUS by video. > > NCCAOM reviewed. Approved in CA & most states. > > > > > > > > > > Membership requires that you do not post any > commerical, swear, > > religious, spam messages,flame another member or swear. > > > > To translate this message, copy and paste it into this > web link page, > > http://babel.altavista.com/ > > > > > > > > and > > adjust accordingly. > > > > If you , it takes a few days for the > messages to stop being > > delivered. > > > > > > > > > ------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2004 Report Share Posted April 30, 2004 Karen: gosh it wasn't that unhappy woman who shared his tent, was it? > > The women of the Desert People were tough, sinewy, dour and with a fine sense of individuality. They never wore a veil, and lived side by side with the men in conditions which would daunt any city dwelling woman. The tents were pitched so that the family of cousin and brother lived together sharing the community area, with sequestered sections in it devoted to the private part of life. Child molestation was unimaginable, rape and wife battering unheard of. No one stole, valuables were left in plain sight, business was done by barter, and the word, once given, was etched in stone. Oddly, the city people who extended to the fringes of the peninsula in three directions became distinct nations, whereas the core of the Desert Dwellers thought of themselves as one tribe, and moved about freely over thousands of square miles of sand. The one striking characteristic was that what one thought was what one said. Between man and wife there were no nuances or prevarications, and communication was simple, lucid and real, and to my city dweller ears, candidly hair raising. They liked me because I was not of one faith or the other, and was a Fire Worshipper, Bani-Ghair, the Outsider. Technically an infidel, I found more acceptance with these folk that anywhere else on that teeming continent. I have lived and practiced in many lands, but I miss my time with the Desert Folk. Candid, of a rare wit, fiercely independent, they were a delight to be with and to work for. As I sit and write, and people over far flung lands read, I hope there are some on those vast, cool, moonlit sands, who still remember me. Dr. Holmes Keikobad MB BS DPH Ret. DIP AC NCCAOM LIC AC CO & AZ www.acu-free.com - 15 CEUS by video. NCCAOM reviewed. Approved in CA & most states. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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