Guest guest Posted April 28, 2004 Report Share Posted April 28, 2004 Just an FYI- Attilio - I used the weight loss protocol that you offered from China. I combined it with other points creating an energeticallly correct tx for my patient. She had cleaned up her diet and had been losing weight at about 2 pounds a week for four months. The weight loss plateaued this past month. I used the treatment last week, just to see what would happen - well she dropped 4.5 pounds this past week! Thanks! robbee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2004 Report Share Posted April 28, 2004 Wow, that's excellent news Robbee! Attilio TashiDelay@a... wrote: > > > Just an FYI- > > Attilio - I used the weight loss protocol that you offered from China. I > combined it with other points creating an energeticallly correct tx for my > patient. She had cleaned up her diet and had been losing weight at about 2 pounds a > week for four months. The weight loss plateaued this past month. I used the > treatment last week, just to see what would happen - well she dropped 4.5 > pounds this past week! > Thanks! > robbee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2004 Report Share Posted May 13, 2004 Hi My name is Dee and I am an Irish acupuncturist Would it be possible for you to mail me the info on pts for weight loss and the differential diagnosis many Thanks Dee - <TashiDelay <Chinese Medicine > Wednesday, April 28, 2004 11:44 PM Re: Digest Number 449 - weight loss > > > Just an FYI- > > Attilio - I used the weight loss protocol that you offered from China. I > combined it with other points creating an energeticallly correct tx for my > patient. She had cleaned up her diet and had been losing weight at about 2 pounds a > week for four months. The weight loss plateaued this past month. I used the > treatment last week, just to see what would happen - well she dropped 4.5 > pounds this past week! > Thanks! > robbee > > > > Membership requires that you do not post any commerical, swear, religious, spam messages,flame another member or swear. > > http://babel.altavista.com/ > > and adjust accordingly. > > If you , it takes a few days for the messages to stop being delivered. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2004 Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 Hi Dee, As requested here are the weight loss points. 1. Zhongwan (Ren 12) 2. Xiawan (Ren 10) 3. Qihai (Ren 6) 4. Guanyuan (Ren 4) 5. Daheng (SP 15) 6. Huaroumen (ST 24) 7. Wailing (ST 26) Needles are retained perpendicular for roughly 25 mins without manipulation. There is no differential diagnosis, once method 'fits' all. Kind regards Attilio <Chinese Traditional Medicine> Chinese Traditional Medicine Deirdre Mackesy [cotcm] 13 May 2004 17:29 Chinese Medicine Re: Digest Number 449 - weight loss Hi My name is Dee and I am an Irish acupuncturist Would it be possible for you to mail me the info on pts for weight loss and the differential diagnosis many Thanks Dee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 Dear Attilio and Robbee, I passed on the 10-point Beijing protocol for weightloss to a friend of mine. She had the patient come three times per week and used the protocol plus a couple of other points ... I think St-36 and perhaps another. Apparently things went very quickly thus far. The patient was averaging 4.5 lb per week of weightloss for two weeks. The patient experienced some episodes of hypoglycemia and dizzyness, but figured out she had to pay attention to eating a number of small nourishing meals per day. I'm wondering if treatments three times per week is overkill. Attilio, what is the frequency of treatments for obese patients at the Beijing Hospital? My practitioner friend wishes to inquire. She's rather surprised by the efficacy of this protocol. Thank you, Emmanuel Segmen _______ Just an FYI- Attilio - I used the weight loss protocol that you offered from China. I combined it with other points creating an energeticallly correct tx for my patient. She had cleaned up her diet and had been losing weight at about 2 pounds a week for four months. The weight loss plateaued this past month. I used the treatment last week, just to see what would happen - well she dropped 4.5 pounds this past week! Thanks! robbee Membership requires that you do not post any commerical, swear, religious, spam messages,flame another member or swear. http://babel.altavista.com/ and adjust accordingly. If you , it takes a few days for the messages to stop being delivered. -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 Hello, What is the protocol for retrieving old info? I am interested in the 10-point Beijing protocol for weightloss but am a techno-tard (read; not good at internet-type or computer things). Thanks! barbara Emmanuel Segmen [susegmen] Tuesday, June 01, 2004 4:55 PM Chinese Medicine Re: Digest Number 449 - weight loss Dear Attilio and Robbee, I passed on the 10-point Beijing protocol for weightloss to a friend of mine. She had the patient come three times per week and used the protocol plus a couple of other points ... I think St-36 and perhaps another. Apparently things went very quickly thus far. The patient was averaging 4.5 lb per week of weightloss for two weeks. The patient experienced some episodes of hypoglycemia and dizzyness, but figured out she had to pay attention to eating a number of small nourishing meals per day. I'm wondering if treatments three times per week is overkill. Attilio, what is the frequency of treatments for obese patients at the Beijing Hospital? My practitioner friend wishes to inquire. She's rather surprised by the efficacy of this protocol. Thank you, Emmanuel Segmen _______ Just an FYI- Attilio - I used the weight loss protocol that you offered from China. I combined it with other points creating an energeticallly correct tx for my patient. She had cleaned up her diet and had been losing weight at about 2 pounds a week for four months. The weight loss plateaued this past month. I used the treatment last week, just to see what would happen - well she dropped 4.5 pounds this past week! Thanks! robbee Membership requires that you do not post any commerical, swear, religious, spam messages,flame another member or swear. http://babel.altavista.com/ and adjust accordingly. If you , it takes a few days for the messages to stop being delivered. ------ -------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 Barbara, This is a copy of Attilio's post from May 20th. Here's the protocol: 1. Zhongwan (Ren 12) 2. Xiawan (Ren 10) 3. Qihai (Ren 6) 4. Guanyuan (Ren 4) 5. Daheng (SP 15) 6. Huaroumen (ST 24) 7. Wailing (ST 26) Needles are retained perpendicular for roughly 25 mins without manipulation. Same for all syndromes. Kind regards Attilio Hello, What is the protocol for retrieving old info? I am interested in the 10-point Beijing protocol for weightloss but am a techno-tard (read; not good at internet-type or computer things). Thanks! barbara Emmanuel Segmen [susegmen] Tuesday, June 01, 2004 4:55 PM Chinese Medicine Re: Digest Number 449 - weight loss Dear Attilio and Robbee, I passed on the 10-point Beijing protocol for weightloss to a friend of mine. She had the patient come three times per week and used the protocol plus a couple of other points ... I think St-36 and perhaps another. Apparently things went very quickly thus far. The patient was averaging 4.5 lb per week of weightloss for two weeks. The patient experienced some episodes of hypoglycemia and dizzyness, but figured out she had to pay attention to eating a number of small nourishing meals per day. I'm wondering if treatments three times per week is overkill. Attilio, what is the frequency of treatments for obese patients at the Beijing Hospital? My practitioner friend wishes to inquire. She's rather surprised by the efficacy of this protocol. Thank you, Emmanuel Segmen _______ Just an FYI- Attilio - I used the weight loss protocol that you offered from China. I combined it with other points creating an energeticallly correct tx for my patient. She had cleaned up her diet and had been losing weight at about 2 pounds a week for four months. The weight loss plateaued this past month. I used the treatment last week, just to see what would happen - well she dropped 4.5 pounds this past week! Thanks! robbee Membership requires that you do not post any commerical, swear, religious, spam messages,flame another member or swear. http://babel.altavista.com/ and adjust accordingly. If you , it takes a few days for the messages to stop being delivered. ------ -------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 Hi Emmanuel. The 7 point Beijing protocol was used very day on patient's who requested to lose weight. In some instances a large slender tone (TENS) machine was placed over the abdomen for a further 25 minutes. I'm very happy that the protocol is proving to be very effective. I hope that more members will share their observations and secrets. It can only better the whole. Kind regards Attilio www.chinesedoctor.co.uk <http://www.chinesedoctor.co.uk/> Emmanuel Segmen [susegmen] 02 June 2004 00:55 Chinese Medicine Re: Digest Number 449 - weight loss Dear Attilio and Robbee, I passed on the 10-point Beijing protocol for weightloss to a friend of mine. She had the patient come three times per week and used the protocol plus a couple of other points ... I think St-36 and perhaps another. Apparently things went very quickly thus far. The patient was averaging 4.5 lb per week of weightloss for two weeks. The patient experienced some episodes of hypoglycemia and dizzyness, but figured out she had to pay attention to eating a number of small nourishing meals per day. I'm wondering if treatments three times per week is overkill. Attilio, what is the frequency of treatments for obese patients at the Beijing Hospital? My practitioner friend wishes to inquire. She's rather surprised by the efficacy of this protocol. Thank you, Emmanuel Segmen _______ Just an FYI- Attilio - I used the weight loss protocol that you offered from China. I combined it with other points creating an energeticallly correct tx for my patient. She had cleaned up her diet and had been losing weight at about 2 pounds a week for four months. The weight loss plateaued this past month. I used the treatment last week, just to see what would happen - well she dropped 4.5 pounds this past week! Thanks! robbee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 Hi All, Okay, so I'll try a different tact. Could someone please tell me what the 10-point (or 7-point) Beijing protocol for weightloss is? Thanks in advance! barbara Emmanuel Segmen [susegmen] Tuesday, June 01, 2004 4:55 PM Chinese Medicine Re: Digest Number 449 - weight loss Dear Attilio and Robbee, I passed on the 10-point Beijing protocol for weightloss to a friend of mine. She had the patient come three times per week and used the protocol plus a couple of other points ... I think St-36 and perhaps another. Apparently things went very quickly thus far. The patient was averaging 4.5 lb per week of weightloss for two weeks. The patient experienced some episodes of hypoglycemia and dizzyness, but figured out she had to pay attention to eating a number of small nourishing meals per day. I'm wondering if treatments three times per week is overkill. Attilio, what is the frequency of treatments for obese patients at the Beijing Hospital? My practitioner friend wishes to inquire. She's rather surprised by the efficacy of this protocol. Thank you, Emmanuel Segmen _______ Just an FYI- Attilio - I used the weight loss protocol that you offered from China. I combined it with other points creating an energeticallly correct tx for my patient. She had cleaned up her diet and had been losing weight at about 2 pounds a week for four months. The weight loss plateaued this past month. I used the treatment last week, just to see what would happen - well she dropped 4.5 pounds this past week! Thanks! robbee Membership requires that you do not post any commerical, swear, religious, spam messages,flame another member or swear. http://babel.altavista.com/ and adjust accordingly. If you , it takes a few days for the messages to stop being delivered. ------ -------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 >This is a copy of Attilio's post from May 20th. > >Here's the protocol: > >1. Zhongwan (Ren 12) >2. Xiawan (Ren 10) >3. Qihai (Ren 6) >4. Guanyuan (Ren 4) >5. Daheng (SP 15) >6. Huaroumen (ST 24) >7. Wailing (ST 26) > >Needles are retained perpendicular for roughly 25 mins without manipulation. >Same for all syndromes. > >Kind regards > >Attilio > > > >Hello, > >What is the protocol for retrieving old info? I am interested in the >10-point Beijing protocol for weightloss but am a techno-tard (read; not >good at internet-type or computer things). > >Thanks! > >barbara >Hi All, > >Okay, so I'll try a different tact. Could someone please tell me what >the 10-point (or 7-point) Beijing protocol for weightloss is? > >Thanks in advance! > >barbara > > >Emmanuel Segmen [susegmen] >Tuesday, June 01, 2004 4:55 PM >Chinese Medicine >Re: Digest Number 449 - weight loss > >Dear Attilio and Robbee, > >I passed on the 10-point Beijing protocol for weightloss to a friend of >mine. She had the patient come three times per week and used the >protocol plus a couple of other points ... I think St-36 and perhaps >another. Apparently things went very quickly thus far. The patient was >averaging 4.5 lb per week of weightloss for two weeks. The patient >experienced some episodes of hypoglycemia and dizzyness, but figured out >she had to pay attention to eating a number of small nourishing meals >per day. I'm wondering if treatments three times per week is overkill. >Attilio, what is the frequency of treatments for obese patients at the >Beijing Hospital? My practitioner friend wishes to inquire. She's >rather surprised by the efficacy of this protocol. > >Thank you, Emmanuel Segmen >_______ >Just an FYI- > >Attilio - I used the weight loss protocol that you offered from China. >I >combined it with other points creating an energeticallly correct tx for >my >patient. She had cleaned up her diet and had been losing weight at >about 2 pounds a >week for four months. The weight loss plateaued this past month. I >used the >treatment last week, just to see what would happen - well she dropped >4.5 >pounds this past week! >Thanks! >robbee > > >Membership requires that you do not post any commerical, swear, >religious, spam messages,flame another member or swear. > > >http://babel.altavista.com/ > > > and >adjust accordingly. > >If you , it takes a few days for the messages to stop being >delivered. > > > > > >------ >-------- > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 Thank you, thank you, thank you. Divine Nature Energy Works [divinenatureenergyworks] Wednesday, June 02, 2004 12:26 PM Chinese Medicine RE: Digest Number 449 - weight loss >This is a copy of Attilio's post from May 20th. > >Here's the protocol: > >1. Zhongwan (Ren 12) >2. Xiawan (Ren 10) >3. Qihai (Ren 6) >4. Guanyuan (Ren 4) >5. Daheng (SP 15) >6. Huaroumen (ST 24) >7. Wailing (ST 26) > >Needles are retained perpendicular for roughly 25 mins without manipulation. >Same for all syndromes. > >Kind regards > >Attilio > > > >Hello, > >What is the protocol for retrieving old info? I am interested in the >10-point Beijing protocol for weightloss but am a techno-tard (read; not >good at internet-type or computer things). > >Thanks! > >barbara >Hi All, > >Okay, so I'll try a different tact. Could someone please tell me what >the 10-point (or 7-point) Beijing protocol for weightloss is? > >Thanks in advance! > >barbara > > >Emmanuel Segmen [susegmen] >Tuesday, June 01, 2004 4:55 PM >Chinese Medicine >Re: Digest Number 449 - weight loss > >Dear Attilio and Robbee, > >I passed on the 10-point Beijing protocol for weightloss to a friend of >mine. She had the patient come three times per week and used the >protocol plus a couple of other points ... I think St-36 and perhaps >another. Apparently things went very quickly thus far. The patient was >averaging 4.5 lb per week of weightloss for two weeks. The patient >experienced some episodes of hypoglycemia and dizzyness, but figured out >she had to pay attention to eating a number of small nourishing meals >per day. I'm wondering if treatments three times per week is overkill. >Attilio, what is the frequency of treatments for obese patients at the >Beijing Hospital? My practitioner friend wishes to inquire. She's >rather surprised by the efficacy of this protocol. > >Thank you, Emmanuel Segmen >_______ >Just an FYI- > >Attilio - I used the weight loss protocol that you offered from China. >I >combined it with other points creating an energeticallly correct tx for >my >patient. She had cleaned up her diet and had been losing weight at >about 2 pounds a >week for four months. The weight loss plateaued this past month. I >used the >treatment last week, just to see what would happen - well she dropped >4.5 >pounds this past week! >Thanks! >robbee > > >Membership requires that you do not post any commerical, swear, >religious, spam messages,flame another member or swear. > > >http://babel.altavista.com/ > > > and >adjust accordingly. > >If you , it takes a few days for the messages to stop being >delivered. > > > > > >----- - >-------- > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 Dear Barbara: _________ Hi All, Okay, so I'll try a different tact. Could someone please tell me what the 10-point (or 7-point) Beijing protocol for weightloss is? Thanks in advance! barbara ___ Perhaps you missed my post. Here it is again to the group and to you personally. Emmanuel Segmen ___ Barbara, This is a copy of Attilio's post from May 20th. Here's the protocol: 1. Zhongwan (Ren 12) 2. Xiawan (Ren 10) 3. Qihai (Ren 6) 4. Guanyuan (Ren 4) 5. Daheng (SP 15) 6. Huaroumen (ST 24) 7. Wailing (ST 26) Needles are retained perpendicular for roughly 25 mins without manipulation. Same for all syndromes. Kind regards Attilio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2004 Report Share Posted June 3, 2004 Thanks, Attilio. Wow ... every day treatment plus TENS. I'll mention that to my friends who are starting to use this. In Gratitude, Emmanuel Segmen Hi Emmanuel. The 7 point Beijing protocol was used very day on patient's who requested to lose weight. In some instances a large slender tone (TENS) machine was placed over the abdomen for a further 25 minutes. I'm very happy that the protocol is proving to be very effective. I hope that more members will share their observations and secrets. It can only better the whole. Kind regards Attilio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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