Guest guest Posted April 26, 2004 Report Share Posted April 26, 2004 Hello I wondered if you would be kind enough to help me by giving your expert advise on how to reduce a few symptoms associated with the menopause, they are making me feel very uncomfortable and changing my life considerably. I am experiencing pains in my hip joints and as a result I am much slower at doing certain daily things such as getting in and out of my car. I have several hot flushes during both the day and night which make me feel uncomfortable when they occur in front of people and make me wish I could leave work and take a shower. Finally I am experiencing memory problems wherebye I tend to forget rather a lot, all of these syptoms I find difficult to live with. In 1994 I had a hysterectomy but my overies were not removed, I am currently taking evening primrose oil with vitamin E, glucosamin and black cohosh to help my problems. Besides these supplements I take multi vitamin B's, CoQ10 and iron tablets as I do not eat meat. I would appreciate any advise from you that may help me lead a normal life once more please. Thank you >Chinese Medicine >Chinese Medicine >Chinese Medicine > Digest Number 442 >25 Apr 2004 14:34:59 -0000 > > >There are 16 messages in this issue. > >Topics in this digest: > > 1. Re: RE: a little rant on prescriptive acupuncture, weight loss >and intention > " salvador march " <salvador_march > 2. Re: why some lose weight and some do not/ alternitive nutrition > " Fanarok J. Thorsson " <fanarokt > 3. RE: Why some lose wieght and some do not? > " majid fadaie " <majidfadaie51 > 4. Re: (no subject) [ " IMO " ] > < > 5. Re: RE: a little rant on prescriptive acupuncture, weight loss >and intention > " " <zrosenbe > 6. Re: RE: a little rant on prescriptive acupuncture, weight loss >and intention > " rayford " <rford > 7. Re: RE: a little rant on prescriptive acupuncture, weight loss >and intention > " salvador march " <salvador_march > 8. Test - Please Ignore > " " <attiliodalberto > 9. Test - Please Ignore > " " <attiliodalberto > 10. Test - Please Ignore > " " <attiliodalberto > 11. Re: RE: a little rant on prescriptive acupuncture, weight loss >and intention > " rayford " <rford > 12. Re: RE: a little rant on prescriptive acupuncture, weight loss >and intention > " salvador march " <salvador_march > 13. Re: The wiry pulse > " Dr. Holmes Keikobad " <acuheal > 14. Gold Tipped Needles causing abcesses > " chinesedoc2000 " <chinesedoc > 15. femur head necrosis hospital > Mk G <gpkm1 > 16. Insurance for students wishing to practice in the UK > " " <attiliodalberto > > >______________________ >______________________ > >Message: 1 > Sat, 24 Apr 2004 23:10:14 +0000 > " salvador march " <salvador_march >Re: RE: a little rant on prescriptive acupuncture, weight loss >and intention > >Hi Ray, Love your analogy of the bulb > >I wholeheartedly agree that intention is a powerful force, this is the >inner >teaching Of Taiji Chuan. My power to affect the switching on of a point is >now consideably greater than when I started. however, regadless of one's >power the light will still come on/off. In fact the more ability whe have >to focus our intention the greater the need for accurate diagnosis. > >afew months back I was treating 2 brother one of whom I had stopped seeing >some months previous. I was in a hurry and it was late in the evening. I >had already decided that I wanted to work on the back shu points. got his >folder and tonified the point. The lad had a sudden very visible muscle >spasm along the inne shu point aproxx 6 inches long. I was very confused >as >I knew that such a result was unthinkable as I had treated him many times >and was clear on my diagnosis. > >I happened to look at the folder and realized my mistake I had taken his >brother's folder. I altered my treatment and attempted to undo my mistake. >but the lad still had a bit of a rough time for about a week. > >so, intention is all well and good but we still have to flick the right >switch in the right direction. > >One of my students mention a japanese woman that diagnosed via the >tenderness in the Fire points. so I have been experimenting. I had one the >othe day who before treatment for excess LI was quite tender in ST-41 fire >point. after sedating LI tenderness was gone from ST-41. this will tie in >with your concept of zones, as I see the meridians as myofacial connections >that encompass muscles ,tendons, ligaments across the whole body linking >meridians like 2 end s of a stick. > >However. in my experience one still has to treat the 'right end of the >stick' > >Salvador >www.meridian-qi-acupuncture.com >________ > > Hi Salvador, > >I think that some things also need to be borne in mind which I would like > >to > >mention. > >After thousands and thousands of treatments our intention or ability to > >focus intention does become somewhat refined then becoming a powerful > >tool/ability within any therapeutic interaction. > >I also have noticed at times the phenomenon of doing the so called " wrong > >point/s " according to the classics or text books but still mysteriously > >helped the patient significantly as Matthew has mentioned in his post,I > >have > >concluded that it does matter who flicks the switch.This is perhaps where > >the whole area of placebo comes in which led to debate some time ago on > >this > >list,now that was a can of worms opened.......Perhaps it is not what we > >believe " but what we " know to be true " at least for ourselves that makes >the > >difference,after thousands of treatments we do develop " knowings " It is > >possible and I think highly likely that when we are told that ST38 is for > >frozen shoulder for example,those amazing practitioners before us >intended > >to pass on their human laboratory experience by simple stating that they > >noticed that " many " patients with FS also have a sore point somewhere >midway > >down the tibialis muscle and its worth having a look.Modern day > >practitioners call this point ST 38 but it could be around and about so > >palpation is important. > >I have found that acive or sore spots are more effective distal points >than > >the actual textbook location if they are not sore or tender or responsive > >in > >any way,this I think is because the body is linked by zones rather than > >thin > >meridians floating in a vacuum,joined by dots known as points. > >An aborigine may be able to flick the switch but can he/ she change the > >bulb? > >With Regards > >Ray Ford > >_______________ >It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today! >http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger > > > >______________________ >______________________ > >Message: 2 > Sun, 25 Apr 2004 03:05:31 -0000 > " Fanarok J. Thorsson " <fanarokt >Re: why some lose weight and some do not/ alternitive nutrition > >weight loss i've found is the state of making your body work for you. >getting enough to satisfy your hunger but putting your stomach to work >to do what's needed for you. when in my twenties i lost 140lbs in 13 >months and kept it off. last year on parnate i gained 45lbs and >started dieting in jan. i first tried the big " fad " diets out there >that work for a short leanth of time then stall. >i went back to what i know and developed myself and have lost over 20 >lbs in 5 weeks with keeping up a good nutrition level. i have given my > stomach no choice but to burn more than i put in. a basic level of >medicine that no one seems to have taken advantage of. > >Chinese Medicine , " majid fadaie " ><majidfadaie51@h...> wrote: > > Dear Attilio , Phil and Others . > > > > In clinical practice we see that some lose weight and some do not >!can any > > body explains why? > > > > Dr.Fadaie > > > > > > > > > > > " Attilio D'Alberto " <attiliodalberto> > > >Chinese Medicine > > >To: ><Chinese Medicine >,<pa-l > > > >RE: Re: Acupuncture for Weight Loss > > >Wed, 21 Apr 2004 07:57:36 +0100 > > > > > >Hi Phil, > > > > > >I also believe in symbolism as a powerful tool that can be used in > > >medicine. > > >I don't believe that if you asked the weight lost acupuncturist >specialist > > >that she would say puncturing the points in the order that she did, >has any > > >particular benefit to the patient. However, I believe that they do. >If you > > >puncture these points in the order I wrote, it makes a cross. I >think that > > >by using powerful symbols in acupuncture, it can have a strong positive > > >benefit to patients. Another example is to puncture needles so that a > > >triangle is made, a very useful and powerful tool which I've seen >used to > > >great benefit in clinical practice. > > > > > >Kind regards > > > > > >Attilio > > > > > > <Chinese Traditional Medicine> > > >Chinese Traditional Medicine > > > > > > > > > [@e...] > > >21 April 2004 04:00 > > >pa-l ; traditional_Chinese_Medicine > > >Re: Acupuncture for Weight Loss > > > > > > > > >Hi All, & Hi Attilio, > > > > > >I doubt if the ORDER of needling has anything to do with the > > >clinical outcome. Have other Listers comments on whether or not > > >ORDER of needling influences results? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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