Guest guest Posted April 22, 2004 Report Share Posted April 22, 2004 Hi Majid & Hi All, >Majid wrote In clinical practice we see that some >lose weight and some do not !can any >body explains why? There are many different reasons for this.Its not only the obesity in which response of the patients differe greatly;this is observed in all the cases with different presentations. We are running 2 OBESITY CLINICS for the last 4 years after working with more than 1500 cases we make these observations. In the case of obesity the main reasons which we've observed in our practise include:--- * Non compliance of the patients to reduce their food intake, they over eat habitually. *Second most common cause is that many people especially middle aged ladies are clinically hypothyroid (they may have normal hormone profile). *People who sleep more than 7 hours a day or more and people who who take their dinner very late and sleep afterwards. *People who are more stress prone they have higher serum cortisol levels; their bodies retain water.They lose weight but put on immediately as they go through a stressful circumstances. In these cases its always very difficult to get long term weight loss. Best regards, Dr Shahzad Anwar. ===== Dr Shahzad Anwar M.B.B.S(Pak.), DipA/C(Pak.) Lic.A/C(China), IFFATANWAR MEDICAL ACUPUNCTURE COMPLEX & AnwarShah's First C.P & Paralysis Research Center www.firstcpcenter.org 17-C, MAIN BOULEVARD FAISAL TOWN, LAHORE PAKISTAN. Ph.No.(Clinic):00 92 42 5168234 Ph.No.(Mobile):00 92 300 9400049 ______________________ Messenger - Communicate instantly... " Ping " your friends today! Download Messenger Now http://uk.messenger./download/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2004 Report Share Posted April 22, 2004 Dr Anwar - a couple of additional questions Your hands on experience is extremely valuable, especially given the number of patients who seem to walk through my door looking for the " magic " needle. > * Non compliance of the patients to reduce their food > intake, they over eat habitually. Have you been able to determine what form the overeating takes - is it quantity, quality or specific wrong food types for their constitution? > *Second most common cause is that many people > especially middle aged ladies are clinically > hypothyroid (they may have normal hormone profile). Do you recommend or suggest any home treatment, iodine, supplements or other? > *People who sleep more than 7 hours a day or more and > people who who take their dinner very late and sleep > afterwards. Particularly in the US the tendency is to eat well into the late evening - do you have a recommendation as to number of calories or food types after 4PM. > *People who are more stress prone they have higher > serum cortisol levels; their bodies retain water.They > lose weight but put on immediately as they go through > a stressful circumstances. Other than stress management, meditation, exercise - are there additional foods to avoid which increase the water retention. As an example, pecans have been shown to reduce stress if eaten daily over a period of a couple of weeks. Are there other similar foods? Kayte Halstead, MSTOM Dipl Ac, Dipl CH (NCCAOM) Acupuncture 4 Health > > > > > > ___________________ ___ > Messenger - Communicate instantly... " Ping " > your friends today! Download Messenger Now > http://uk.messenger./download/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2004 Report Share Posted April 23, 2004 Hi there, I'd like to bud in here too... > Have you been able to determine what form the > overeating takes - is > it quantity, quality or specific wrong food types > for their > constitution? IME (in my experience) it depends, so a proper food diary is necessary. Doesn't have to be very detailed, just accurate in terms of dietary trends. A history going back to childhood may also be very revealing in some cases (the confusing ones). <clinically low thyroid> > Do you recommend or suggest any home treatment, > iodine, supplements or other? I would treat mainly be adjusting diet and herbs, in some cases asking patients to consult with their GP for a thyroid supplement, dessicated thyroid preferred. However, it is important to remember that any thyroid replacement therapy - natural, or synthetic source, partial or complete hormone replacement - _causes the thyroid to close-up shop and die_. The thyroid will become scar tissue and then it will be thyroid replacement therapy for life. I'm not sure how long it takes on average - anyone? Two years is pushing it though. > Particularly in the US the tendency is to eat well > into the late > evening - do you have a recommendation as to number > of calories or > food types after 4PM. I find it most useful to use the CM dietary principles, i.e. hot warm neutral cool cold dry moistening salty sour sweet bitter pungent foods, etc. As far as your question, breakfast should be the biggest meal, lunch a medium meal and dinner relatively small. 3 to 6 meals spaced apart with no snacking will work. And brkfst should be a _meal_, not cereal or toast or something. This is similar to a jet fuelling up before it takes off. Imagine if the fuel techs said, " we don't have time today, just pour a little in " . hahahaha > Other than stress management, meditation, exercise - > are there > additional foods to avoid which increase the water > retention. Cold energy, cold temperature foods damage the Spleen qi and can lead to water retention. Raw plant foods are an example of cold energy foods. If you're interested I can explain a little more re the raw foods business. > As an > example, pecans have been shown to reduce stress if > eaten daily over > a period of a couple of weeks. Are there other > similar foods? It depends what type of stress - Liver qi congestion / depression / stagnation etc, Heart fire, Heart qi deficiency etc. Each pattern must be treated by a specific dietary prescription. Good intro to all this are Henry Lu's books on dietary therapy. Hope that was relevant and helpful, Bye! Hugo __________ Messenger - Communicate instantly... " Ping " your friends today! Download Messenger Now http://uk.messenger./download/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2004 Report Share Posted April 23, 2004 Hi Kayte Halstead & Hi All, Kayte Halstead wrote: > Dr Anwar - a couple of additional questions > Have you been able to determine what form the > overeating takes - is it quantity, quality or > specific wrong food types for their constitution? We take a tetailed history which includes all the routine stuff and the daily routine of the patients.This is to assess the physical activity,mental and physical stress,exercise routine.With all this and also considering the age,height,sex,stature/frame we are able to assess the number of calories required by the person.We give them the diet charts mentioning what is their normal requirement.If they exceed this,this is overeating. > Do you recommend or suggest any home treatment, > iodine, supplements or other? We treat mainly be adjusting diet.In our part of the world we've many areas with iodine deficiency we also advise them to take Iodised salt.In some cases asking patients to consult with their physician for a thyroid supplement. > Particularly in the US the tendency is to eat well > into the late evening - do you have a recommendation > as to number of calories or food types after 4PM. The tendency of eating large dinners and that very late as well is really very dangerous and cause so many diseases.We ask our clients to take a light dinner and not to sleep at least for an hour or so. Hope this helps, Best regards, Dr Shahzad Anwar. ===== Dr Shahzad Anwar M.B.B.S(Pak.), DipA/C(Pak.) Lic.A/C(China), IFFATANWAR MEDICAL ACUPUNCTURE COMPLEX & AnwarShah's First C.P & Paralysis Research Center www.firstcpcenter.org 17-C, MAIN BOULEVARD FAISAL TOWN, LAHORE PAKISTAN. Ph.No.(Clinic):00 92 42 5168234 Ph.No.(Mobile):00 92 300 9400049 ______________________ Messenger - Communicate instantly... " Ping " your friends today! Download Messenger Now http://uk.messenger./download/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2004 Report Share Posted April 25, 2004 Dear Dr Shahzad . ( wa Alykum o Hi) Though there are very interfering factors but they should be localized and treated .I do believe that treatment shall be designed to become more flexible and as the behavior /pulse of the patient changes point should be changed immediately. There is a great energy block in these patients and the block can start moving up and down in the energy cycle and result in damp collection. The protocols shall be directed to reduce damp production and increase excretion. The protocols of therapy shall vary sequentially to obtain better results. Though most of the faults fall on the patient(Which I partially agree ) but I do believe that my knowledge in localizing the problem is not correct or I am unable to understand the problem that is why it is not solved . may be we have to look at the problem a different way? Great regards. Dr,Fadaie >Shahzad Anwar <shahzadtirmzi >Chinese Medicine >Chinese Medicine > Why some lose wieght and some do not? >Thu, 22 Apr 2004 17:51:28 +0100 (BST) > >Hi Majid & Hi All, > >Majid wrote In clinical practice we see that some > >lose weight and some do not !can any > >body explains why? > >There are many different reasons for this.Its not only >the obesity in which response of the patients differe >greatly;this is observed in all the cases with >different presentations. We are running 2 OBESITY >CLINICS for the last 4 years after working with more >than 1500 cases we make these observations. > >In the case of obesity the main reasons which we've >observed in our practise include:--- >* Non compliance of the patients to reduce their food >intake, they over eat habitually. >*Second most common cause is that many people >especially middle aged ladies are clinically >hypothyroid (they may have normal hormone profile). >*People who sleep more than 7 hours a day or more and >people who who take their dinner very late and sleep >afterwards. >*People who are more stress prone they have higher >serum cortisol levels; their bodies retain water.They >lose weight but put on immediately as they go through >a stressful circumstances. >In these cases its always very difficult to get long >term weight loss. >Best regards, >Dr Shahzad Anwar. > > > > >===== >Dr Shahzad Anwar >M.B.B.S(Pak.), DipA/C(Pak.) >Lic.A/C(China) >Director, >IFFATANWAR MEDICAL ACUPUNCTURE COMPLEX > & >AnwarShah's >First C.P & Paralysis Research Center > www.firstcpcenter.org > >17-C, MAIN BOULEVARD FAISAL TOWN, LAHORE >PAKISTAN. >Ph.No.(Clinic):00 92 42 5168234 >Ph.No.(Mobile):00 92 300 9400049 > > > > > > > >______________________ > Messenger - Communicate instantly... " Ping " >your friends today! Download Messenger Now >http://uk.messenger./download/index.html _______________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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