Baishao as replacement for Ejiao?

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I would use Sheng Di/Shu Di Huang before I would use Bai Shao as a

substitute for E Jiao. One need only look at Bai Shao to see it could not

have nearly the moistening, enriching properties of E Jiao and Sheng Di/ Shu

Di. I say this even though Bai Shao is one of my favorite herbs, but I use

it more for softening the liver than for nourishing the blood.

 

Julie

 

 

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Tuesday, April 20, 2004 8:59 PM

Baishao as replacement for Ejiao?

 

 

Hi All, & Hi Priscilla,

 

Priscilla wrote:

> A TCM herbalist friend who taught herbs and formulas in my

> acupuncture college said that she usually uses Baishao rather than

> Ejiao for its Nourish Yin & Clear Heat properties, Don't know if

> you'd find this an acceptable replacement or not.

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Hi All, & Hi Priscilla,

 

Priscilla wrote:

> A TCM herbalist friend who taught herbs and formulas in my

> acupuncture college said that she usually uses Baishao rather than

> Ejiao for its Nourish Yin & Clear Heat properties, Don't know if

> you'd find this an acceptable replacement or not.

 

Many thanks for your note. It is a good example of the difficulty of

finding a perfect substitute for Ejiao.

 

My notes on BAISHAO and EJIAO are below. I will summarise the

similarities and differences between them. I invite experts to add to

(or correct) my notes:

 

Yes, BOTH BAISHAO and EJIAO belong to the Main Hb Class

“Tonic~Build Xue”.

 

Both are Tonic~Restorative, Build Xue, Antianaemic in Xue Xu.

 

BOTH Nourish Yin in Yin Xu, and Rectify Menstruation, esp in Xue

Xu

 

BOTH Build LV Xue & LV Yin; Both are Immunostimulant and

Hypotensor & are used in LV & GB DYsFx.

 

However, some large differences mean that one cannot substitute

for the other in many cases:

 

1. BAISHAO is Bitter; sour; Cool, whereas EJIAO is sweet ~

mildly; Neutral; Mild.

 

2. BAISHAO Enters LV; SP, whereas EJIAO Enters KI; LV; LU.

 

3. BAISHAO is a better SPASMOLYTIC in LV Yang & other

syndromes w pain, spasm & convulsions, whereas EJIAO is a

better HAEMOSTAT in bleeding:

 

BAISHAO: SPASMOLYTIC*; Calm LV; Calm LV Yang; Calm LV

Yang Rising; Ease Pain & relax skeletal muscle & smooth muscle

in muscle spasm; arm/leg ~ spasms, arm/leg pain; angina,

bronchospasm; colic*; Xue Xu w muscle spasm; Yin Xu/Xue Xu w

convulsion; Yin Xu/LV Yang Rising w Xue Stag +/- Qi Stag w

Tendon problems w pain; Wind & Pain in Wind Bi; rheumatism in

Yin Xu/Xue Xu; Wind in LV Yang Shi/Heat Shi w convulsion; Move

Xue Stag; Move Qi Stas; Move LV Qi Stag; LV-Protector; LV Yin

Xu, Yin Xu w Yang Shi/LV Yang Shi w vertigo, headache, irritability

& insomnia; LV Yin Xu/LV Qi Stag w tendon pain/DysFx; LV Qi

Rising/LV Yang Rising/ST Attack by LV Qi Shi w chest ~ pain &

abdomen ~ pain*; Rectify LV; Soften LV; Spread LV Qi; ST ~

ulcer;

 

EJIAO: HAEMOSTAT in KI Xu w metrorrhagia/metrostaxis, vagina

~ bleeding/spotting, leukorrhoea, abortion ~ threatened, bleeding

(uterus/vagina) in pregnancy, etc; dysentery/dysentery postpartum,

face ~ pallor/sallow, vertigo & HT ~ palpitation; menoxenia,

amenorrhoea, dysmenorrhoea, etc; also in bleeding,

haematemesis, epistaxis, apostaxis, haemafecia, Haematuria,

haemoptysis, cough w blood; Haemostat in Heat & Xue Heat w

bleeding, epistaxis & haematemesis, bleeding/dysentery ~ bloody,

faeces ~ bloody, dysentery ~ bacillary*/dysentery ~ amoebic*;

Haemostat in Xu Cold (Cold of Xu-type) w bleeding, esp

metrorrhagia/metrostaxis, menorrhagia, haematemesis,

haemoptysis & epistaxis, menstrual irregularity; Xue Xu w

Bleeding, haemoptysis, haematemesis, haemafecia, haematuria,

metrorrhagia, etc anaemia, leukocytopenia & thrombocytopenic

purpura;

 

4. BAISHAO is better to Calm CNS esp w spasms & convulsions,

whereas EJIAO is Adaptogen and sedative to HT, Shen (Mind) &

Foetus:

 

EJIAO: Adaptogen/Antistress; Antishock; Calm HT; Calm Shen

esp in Febrile Disease w consumption of Yin/Yin Xu w Fire Shi w

vexation, anxiety & insomnia; Calm Foetus in combined LV Xu + KI

Xu w abortion ~ threatened / abortion ~ habitual; Also Build HT

Xue, Build HT Yin; HT DysFx; insomnia esp in Yin Xu & Yang Shi,

w vertigo, headaches, palpatation, lethargy, face ~ pallor/sallow,

appetite ~ poor, mouth dry, sometime urine is dark w faeces ~ dry,

tongue red/light pink wo coat, pulse is stringy & fast/small &

fast/floating/slippery; Antifatigue/Antiexhaustion; tiredness,

psychasthenia & weakness in malnutrition; Radiotherapy (Support)

in radiation exposure; Boost Lymphocyte Transformation; Boost

thrombocytes; purpura; Strengthen Muscle; It has some value in

Yin Xu & Xue Xu w muscle spasm but BAISHAO is better here.

 

5. EJIAO is a better choice than BAISHAO for LU and KI problems:

 

EJIAO can Moisten; Moisten LU; LU DysFx; LU Dryness w cough

& thirst; LU Fire Shi in LU Xu w cough & asthma; LU Xu w cough ~

chronic, asthma ~ chronic/cough w haemoptysis; LU TB w

consumptive fever in Yin Xu; Ki-Protector (Antinephritic); Build KI,

Build KI Yin; Boost calcium absorption & accumulation; Boost

growth of children

 

Though EJIAO can Build LV in LV Xu, & is used in Damp

Retention, like oedema, dysuria, strangury w Damp like Strangury

w KI/BL ~ calculi, chyluria, leukorrhagia, diarrhoea~chronic;

icterus. However, BAISHAO is a better choice for LV DysFx. Also,

BAISHAO is Vasodilator ~ Peripheral, Vasodilator ~ HT ~ arteries

& pelvic limb; it is used in Xue Stag, hypertension; Antihypoxia

(Boost Hypoxic Tolerance); Antiinflammation; Antimicrobial; Build

Ying; Rectify Ying & Wei; Stop Sweat; Yin Xu w sweat ~ night &

Weiqi Xu/Yingqi-Weiqi Disharmony w sweat ~ spontaneous;

Astringe Yin; balance Hbs that injure Yin; Harmonise LV-SP;

Inhibit intestines; Yin Xu & Xue Xu w menstrual DysFx, menoxenia,

menalgia, leukorrhagia & metrorrhagia.

 

See more detailed notes, below.

 

Any other suggestions for a good substitute for Ejiao?

 

Best regards,

Phil

 

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PINYIN NAME: BAISHAO; BAISHAOYAO (Paeoniae

Albae/Lactiflorae/Albiflorae/Trichocarpae Rx; White Peony Rx)

MAIN HB CLASS: Tonic ~ Build Xue

NATURE: Bitter; sour; Cool

CHANNELS ENTERED: LV; SP

DOSE: As Soup: 6-15g

MAIN ACTIONS: (1) Tonic/Restorative ~ Nourish Xue; Build Xue;

Rectify Menstruation in Xue Xu; Build Yin; Astringe Yin; balance

Hbs that injure Yin; Stop Sweat; Build Ying; Rectify Ying & Wei;

(2) Calm LV Yang; Calm LV Yang Rising; LV-Protector; Rectify LV;

Build LV; Build LV Xue; Build LV Yin; Soften LV; Spread LV Qi;

Move LV Qi Stag; Ease Pain; Move Qi Stas; Spasmolytic*; Ease

Spasm in muscle spasm; relax skeletal muscles; relax smooth

muscle; (3) Calm LV; Ease Pain; Harmonise LV-SP; Inhibit

intestines; (4) Also: Move Xue Stag; Vasodilator ~ HT ~ arteries &

pelvic limb; Vasodilator ~ Peripheral; Hypotensor; Antihypoxia

(Boost Hypoxic Tolerance); Calm CNS; ??Clear Nebula/cataract;

Immunostimulant; Antimicrobial; Antiinflammation;

USES: (1) Yin Xu & Xue Xu w menstrual DysFx, menoxenia,

menalgia, leukorrhagia & metrorrhagia; Yin Xu w sweat ~ night &

Weiqi Xu/Yingqi-Weiqi Disharmony w sweat ~ spontaneous; (2)

Xue Xu w muscle spasm; arm/leg ~ spasms, arm/leg pain;

rheumatism in Yin Xu/Xue Xu; LV Yin Xu/LV Qi Stag w tendon

pain/DysFx; Yin Xu/LV Yang Rising w Xue Stag +/- Qi Stag w

Tendon problems w pain; Wind & Pain in Wind Bi; LV DysFx; GB

DysFx; LV Yin Xu, Yin Xu w Yang Shi/LV Yang Shi w vertigo,

headache, irritability & insomnia; Wind in LV Yang Shi/Heat Shi w

convulsion; Yin Xu/Xue Xu w convulsion; (3) LV Qi Rising/LV Yang

Rising/ST Attack by LV Qi Shi w chest ~ pain & abdomen ~ pain*;

colic*; ST ~ ulcer; angina, bronchospasm; (4) Also: Xue Stag,

hypertension

COMBINATIONS: (1) BAISHAO + Shengdihuang & Danggui in Yin

Xu & Xue Xu w menstrual DysFx, menoxenia, menalgia,

leukorrhagia & metrorrhagia; BAISHAO + Guizhi in Yin Xu w sweat

~ night & Weiqi Xu/Yingqi-Weiqi Disharmony w sweat ~

spontaneous; (2) BAISHAO + Gancao in Xue Xu w muscle spasm;

arm/leg ~ spasms, arm/leg pain; rheumatism in Yin Xu/Xue Xu;

BAISHAO + other LV Hbs in LV Yin Xu/LV Qi Stag w tendon

pain/DysFx; Yin Xu/LV Yang Rising w Xue Stag +/- Qi Stag w

Tendon problems w pain; Add BAISHAO + other Hbs to Expel

Wind & Ease Pain in Wind Bi; LV DysFx; GB DysFx; LV Yin Xu,

Yin Xu w Yang Shi/LV Yang Shi w vertigo, headache, irritability &

insomnia; Wind in LV Yang Shi/Heat Shi w convulsion; Yin Xu/Xue

Xu w convulsion; (3) BAISHAO + Chaihu, Zhishi, Zhigancao in Si Ni

San (rarely used today; Chaihu Shu Gan San is used instead) in

LV Qi Rising/LV Yang Rising/ST Attack by LV Qi Shi w chest ~

pain & abdomen ~ pain*; colic*, angina, bronchospasm; (4) Also:

Xue Stag, hypertension;

 

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PINYIN NAME: EJIAO (LUPIJIAO; LUPENFUJIAO); AJIAO (Asini

Corii Colla/Gelatinum, Equi Asini Corii Colla; Gelatinum Nigrum;

Ass Hide Glue/Gelatin, Gelatinum, Gelatina Nigra)

MAIN HB CLASS: Tonic ~ Build Xue

NATURE: sweet ~ mildly; Neutral; Mild

CHANNELS ENTERED: KI; LV; LU

DOSE: Dissolved w Soup: 5-15g/d; take on an empty ST (>1 hour

before/3 hours after a meal)

MAIN ACTIONS: (1) Tonic/Restorative ~ Nourish Xue; Build Xue;

Antianaemia; Boost RCC, Boost haemoglobin & thrombocytes;

Calm HT; Calm Shen; Hypotensor; Build HT Xue; Build Yin; Build

HT Yin; Haemostat; (2) Build LV Xue; Build LV Yin; Rectify

Menstruation; Calm Foetus; (3) Moisten; Build Yin & Moisten LU:

(4) Adaptogen/Antistress; Antishock; Radiotherapy (Support);

Antifatigue/Antiexhaustion; Strengthen Muscle; Immunostimulant;

Boost Lymphocyte Transformation: weakness in malnutrition; Cold

exposure, tiredness & radiation exposure; (5) Also: Build KI Yin; Ki-

Protector (Antinephritic); Boost calcium absorption &

accumulation;

USES: (1) Xue Xu w Bleeding; Haematemesis, epistaxis,

apostaxis; haemoptysis; haematuria; haemafecia;

metrorrhagia/metrostaxis; (2) Yin Xu; Yang Shi; (3) Others: Yin Xu

w tongue flushed, pulse thready + rapid, cough ~ chronic (in TB);

HT DysFx; LU DysFx; GB DysFx; LV DysFx; chronic diarrhoea;

purpura; psychasthenia; anxiety; insomnia; Boost growth of children

COMBINATIONS: (1) Xue Xu w face ~ pallor/sallow, vertigo & HT ~

palpitation; Xue Xu w various types of bleeding, like haemoptysis,

haematemesis, haemafecia, haematuria, metrorrhagia, etc

anaemia, leukocytopenia & thrombocytopenic purpura; EJIAO +

Baitouweng, Gancao in Xue Xu w dysentery/dysentery postpartum;

also dysentery ~ bacillary*/dysentery ~ amoebic*; EJIAO w

Guanzhong Carb, Mohanlian, etc as Haemostat in bleeding,

metrorrhagia, metrostaxis, vagina ~ bleeding/spotting, postpartum

~ bleeding/dysentery ~ bloody, faeces ~ bloody, etc; EJIAO in

Huanglian EJIAO Tang wo Huangqin but add Longchi, Muli, Taoren,

Chenpi in insomnia in Yin Xu & Yang Shi, w vertigo, headaches,

palpatation, lethargy, face ~ pallor/sallow, appetite ~ poor, mouth

dry, sometime urine is dark w faeces ~ dry, tongue red/light pink

wo coat, pulse is stringy & fast/small & fast/floating/slippery;

EJIAO + other Build Yin, Calm Shen Hbs in Febrile Disease w

consumption of Yin/Yin Xu w Fire Shi w vexation & insomnia; Yin

Xu & Xue Xu w muscle spasm; LU Dryness w cough & thirst; (2)

Xue Xu w menoxenia, amenorrhoea; abortion ~ threatened; EJIAO

w Puhuang as Haemostat; Aiye + EJIAO as in Jiao Ai Tang in Xu

Cold (Cold of Xu-type) w bleeding, esp metrorrhagia/metrostaxis,

menorrhagia, haematemesis, haemoptysis & epistaxis, menstrual

irregularity; amenorrhoea; dysmenorrhoea, etc; EJIAO + Aiye

(fresh Hb), Shengdihuang crude, Cebaiye crude & Lianye crude

(Bolus of Four Fresh Hbs); Use Aiyetan in Xue Heat w bleeding,

epistaxis & haematemesis; Tusizi w other Build KI, Build LV; Calm

Foetus Hbs like Sangjisheng, Xuduan; EJIAO (Bolus to Calm

Foetus) in combined LV Xu + KI Xu w abortion ~ threatened;

habitual abortion; EJIAO w Xuduan, Danggui, Shudihuang, Aiye,

etc in LV Xu; KI Xu w metrorrhagia/metrostaxis, leukorrhoea,

abortion ~ threatened, bleeding (uterus/vagina) in pregnancy, etc;

(3) EJIAO + Shashen, Dongchongxiacao & Chuanbeimu in LU Xu w

cough ~ chronic, asthma ~ chronic/cough w haemoptysis; EJIAO

w Madouling, Xingren, Gengmi, etc in LU Fire Shi in LU Xu w cough

& asthma; EJIAO w Ziwan, Zhimu, Chuanbeimu, etc in LU TB w

consumptive fever in Yin Xu; cough w blood; Polyporus Soup

(Zhuling, Fuling, Zexie, Huashi; EJIAO) in Damp Retention, like

oedema, dysuria, leukorrhagia; icterus; Strangury w Damp (like

Strangury w KI/BL ~ calculi, chyluria; of Heat);

 

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