Guest guest Posted April 19, 2004 Report Share Posted April 19, 2004 Hi All, & Richard, Richard wrote: > UPDATE: recently in the United States (around the April 12th > ephedrine alkaloid ban) the FDA has now flexed their over-control > by stopping an incoming shipment of Chinese herbal formulas based > upon the weak idea that animal ingredients which are included in > those formulas are 'additives' and therefore 'unapproved' by the > FDA. An interesting devolving idea especially since many cultures > around the world EAT animals/parts as FOOD. Are they suggesting > that Kentucky Fried Chicken shall now need to get FDA approval for > their chicken legs/wings which are then added to batter and oil > before they can sell them? Richard Food hygiene and animal disease control regulations in USA and EU ban the importation of many animal products. Such products even include meat (not to mention pruducts not normally eaten by people, such as hide, hoof and horn, etc), unless the slaughter plant and the products pass standard food safety regulations of inspection by officers authorised by the importing countries. The Authorities in the importing countries argue that they need to enforce such regulations to stop international spread of viral and other transmissible diseases, like foot & mouth, transmissible encephalopathies, etc. Like it or not (apart from any issues of humane handling of animals, unnecessary use of animal products where good alternatives may exist, etc), these " Food Regulations " will be invoked more ane more by Drug Regulation Authorities in the area of homeopathics, glandulars and herbal medicines that contain animal products. Best regards, Email: < WORK : Teagasc Research Management, Sandymount Ave., Dublin 4, Ireland Mobile: 353-; [in the Republic: 0] HOME : 1 Esker Lawns, Lucan, Dublin, Ireland Tel : 353-; [in the Republic: 0] WWW : http://homepage.eircom.net/~progers/searchap.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2004 Report Share Posted April 19, 2004 Hi All, & Richard, Richard wrote: > UPDATE: recently in the United States (around the April 12th > ephedrine alkaloid ban) the FDA has now flexed their over-control > by stopping an incoming shipment of Chinese herbal formulas based > upon the weak idea that animal ingredients which are included in > those formulas are 'additives' and therefore 'unapproved' by the > FDA. An interesting devolving idea especially since many cultures > around the world EAT animals/parts as FOOD. Are they suggesting > that Kentucky Fried Chicken shall now need to get FDA approval for > their chicken legs/wings which are then added to batter and oil > before they can sell them? Richard Food hygiene and animal disease control regulations in USA and EU ban the importation of many animal products. Such products even include meat (not to mention pruducts not normally eaten by people, such as hide, hoof and horn, etc), unless the slaughter plant and the products pass standard food safety regulations of inspection by officers authorised by the importing countries. The Authorities in the importing countries argue that they need to enforce such regulations to stop international spread of viral and other transmissible diseases, like foot & mouth, transmissible encephalopathies, etc. Like it or not (apart from any issues of humane handling of animals, unnecessary use of animal products where good alternatives may exist, etc), these " Food Regulations " will be invoked more ane more by Drug Regulation Authorities in the area of homeopathics, glandulars and herbal medicines that contain animal products. Best regards, Email: < WORK : Teagasc Research Management, Sandymount Ave., Dublin 4, Ireland Mobile: 353-; [in the Republic: 0] HOME : 1 Esker Lawns, Lucan, Dublin, Ireland Tel : 353-; [in the Republic: 0] WWW : http://homepage.eircom.net/~progers/searchap.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2004 Report Share Posted April 20, 2004 I don't like the idea that the FDA or other regulatory bodies pretend to know what is best for me or those I know or sell, trade, or give to. For decades I have been using patents with animal products that probably were close to what they were supposed to be. No problems. Chinese Drs I have known would fly to China to approve or verify sources of all kinds of substances; scorpion, non cosmetic grade pearl , many things. Now, customs rifles thru everything and delays and spoils shipments, with the lie that they are looking out for the public welfare. Of all the true, useful crusades to choose from, they decide a vastly safe enterprise like TCM herbology is a growing menace. The approved abatoirs themselves consistently fail health codes and products like poultry, fish, and beef kill and sicken thousands every month. School lunch programs are supplied by the lowest bidders, and over 50% of these suppliers have been fined for delivering poor quality 'inedibles' at high taxpayer cost. We could go on and on. Yes, The fact that they should get their own (slaughter)house cleaned and in order - but do not- and jump the fence to dismantle an overwhelmingly wonderful human activity like herbology, should show anyone that this is only another successful attempt at racketeering. Plain and simple greed, hate, ignorance. Not the spirit that is looking for the best way for people to be well. I haven't much time for internet, I wish we could delve into the theory and knowledge/evidence gathering of this field, but am too busy because the monsters are attacking the gates of the pure land. peace < wrote: Hi All, & Richard, Richard wrote: > UPDATE: recently in the United States (around the April 12th > ephedrine alkaloid ban) the FDA has now flexed their over-control > by stopping an incoming shipment of Chinese herbal formulas based > upon the weak idea that animal ingredients which are included in > those formulas are 'additives' and therefore 'unapproved' by the > FDA. An interesting devolving idea especially since many cultures > around the world EAT animals/parts as FOOD. Are they suggesting > that Kentucky Fried Chicken shall now need to get FDA approval for > their chicken legs/wings which are then added to batter and oil > before they can sell them? Richard Food hygiene and animal disease control regulations in USA and EU ban the importation of many animal products. Such products even include meat (not to mention pruducts not normally eaten by people, such as hide, hoof and horn, etc), unless the slaughter plant and the products pass standard food safety regulations of inspection by officers authorised by the importing countries. The Authorities in the importing countries argue that they need to enforce such regulations to stop international spread of viral and other transmissible diseases, like foot & mouth, transmissible encephalopathies, etc. Like it or not (apart from any issues of humane handling of animals, unnecessary use of animal products where good alternatives may exist, etc), these " Food Regulations " will be invoked more ane more by Drug Regulation Authorities in the area of homeopathics, glandulars and herbal medicines that contain animal products. Best regards, Email: < WORK : Teagasc Research Management, Sandymount Ave., Dublin 4, Ireland Mobile: 353-; [in the Republic: 0] HOME : 1 Esker Lawns, Lucan, Dublin, Ireland Tel : 353-; [in the Republic: 0] WWW : http://homepage.eircom.net/~progers/searchap.htm Membership requires that you do not post any commerical, swear, religious, spam messages,flame another member or swear. To change your email delivery settings, Chinese Medicine/ click ‘edit my membership' on the right hand side and adjust accordingly. If you , it takes a few days for the messages to stop being delivered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2004 Report Share Posted April 20, 2004 Hi Phil! This one is much more readable, thanks! At 10:29 AM 4/19/2004, you wrote:<snip> >Food hygiene and animal disease control regulations in USA and >EU ban the importation of many animal products. Such products >even include meat (not to mention pruducts not normally eaten by >people, such as hide, hoof and horn, etc), unless the slaughter >plant and the products pass standard food safety regulations of >inspection by officers authorised by the importing countries. > >The Authorities in the importing countries argue that they need to Regards, Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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