Guest guest Posted April 17, 2004 Report Share Posted April 17, 2004 I was cleaning the leaves of a 1.5 metre rubber plant(tree) this morning, and an old leaf broke off. The sap started to run; thick and abundantly. It made me think how much it is like phlegm in the human's system. Like sap in a rubber tree. Damp, thickish, needing warmth, and for some a relocation to dry sunny deserts. Through the body and mind, clouding, some places collecting, nodules in the vessels and muscle. In the pulse, sluggish laboring. -From 'The Sun King'- (concerning phlegm) Racine's 12 year old daughter, Fanchon, went to bed with a headache. Racine, who adored his children, went to see how she was getting on. He found her with her head on the floor and her throat full of water, drowning. He picked her up; she was like a wet sack. He and his wife forced salt down her throat and rubbed her with spirits of wine; it still seemed she must smother. finally she vomited an appalling quantity of water which seemed to have come into her chest from her brain; then she was perfectly all right. Mareschal the surgeon arived and bled her; Fagon arrived and diagnosed suffocating catarrh; he said it came from not blowing her nose enough. After this she drove everyone mad by blowing her nose noisily all day long.- Isn't it interesting how many references to phlegm are in this passage. And even tho bleeding was used for almost all ailments in 16th century Europe, the bleeding and emesis was appropriate. In seasonal changes many animals and children do loose a bit of gathered phlegm this way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2004 Report Share Posted April 18, 2004 ykcul, what a timely topic! Following that line of thought, what then is the difference between 'phlegm' and 'damp', in the body and out of it? The sap was legitimate in it's presence; and if the child choked on 'water' it must be that it had turned to damp. Yet that is not phlegm, for that is mucoid and very difficult to expectorate. And somehow one thinks of phlegm with a long drawn out history, not short lived like this. Please everybody comment. Dr. Holmes Keikobad MB BS DPH Ret. DIP AC NCCAOM LIC AC CO & AZ www.acu-free.com - 15 CEUS by video. NCCAOM reviewed. Approved in CA & most states. - " ykcul_ritsym " <ykcul_ritsym <Chinese Medicine > Saturday, April 17, 2004 1:08 PM Imaging phleg and the professional altruist I was cleaning the leaves of a 1.5 metre rubber plant(tree) this morning, and an old leaf broke off. The sap started to run; thick and abundantly. It made me think how much it is like phlegm in the human's system. Like sap in a rubber tree. Damp, thickish, needing warmth, and for some a relocation to dry sunny deserts. Through the body and mind, clouding, some places collecting, nodules in the vessels and muscle. In the pulse, sluggish laboring. -From 'The Sun King'- (concerning phlegm) Racine's 12 year old daughter, Fanchon, went to bed with a headache. Racine, who adored his children, went to see how she was getting on. He found her with her head on the floor and her throat full of water, drowning. He picked her up; she was like a wet sack. He and his wife forced salt down her throat and rubbed her with spirits of wine; it still seemed she must smother. finally she vomited an appalling quantity of water which seemed to have come into her chest from her brain; then she was perfectly all right. Mareschal the surgeon arived and bled her; Fagon arrived and diagnosed suffocating catarrh; he said it came from not blowing her nose enough. After this she drove everyone mad by blowing her nose noisily all day long.- Isn't it interesting how many references to phlegm are in this passage. And even tho bleeding was used for almost all ailments in 16th century Europe, the bleeding and emesis was appropriate. In seasonal changes many animals and children do loose a bit of gathered phlegm this way. Membership requires that you do not post any commerical, swear, religious, spam messages,flame another member or swear. To change your email delivery settings, Chinese Medicine/ click 'edit my membership' on the right hand side and adjust accordingly. If you , it takes a few days for the messages to stop being delivered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2004 Report Share Posted April 19, 2004 Writes Bob Flaws in " Treatment Principles as Funnels " with reference to Phlegm: Transform phlegm Disperse phlegm Scatter nodulation. Phlegm is made of Damp and Sleeping Fire. To transform phlegm would mean to dry out Damp. In which case it will not hold Fire and it will disperse. Is this right thinkink? What can 'scatter' nodulation mean? Dies it eman some herb, or maybe cupping, pressing, needling. Can one moxa, when there is no evidence of Heat, tongue is not red and body registers Cold? Anyne with ideas? Dr. Holmes Keikobad MB BS DPH Ret. DIP AC NCCAOM LIC AC CO & AZ www.acu-free.com - 15 CEUS by video. NCCAOM reviewed. Approved in CA & most states. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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