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Hi Everybody!

 

This lady presents with knee pain, wishes to lose weight and suffers from

acid reflux. She also had terrifying experiences as a child being forced to

undergo bizarre religious ordeals. Your comments are invited.

 

Patient: Female, age 61 Record 4 - 6- 4

 

Patient number: 0405041780 Date of birth: Dec 3, 1942

 

What is your major complaint? Right knee swollen with pain.

How long have you had this condition? 3 months

What treatments or remedies have you tried for this condition? Echinacea,

acupuncture.

 

 

Have you seen a Western Doctor for this condition? Yes.

Have you seen a Chiropractor for this condition? Yes

Have you ever had jaundice? Yes, hepatitis attack years ago.

Have you ever had a tumor, growth, cyst or cancer? Yes. Fibroids in uterus.

Have you ever had to wear eyeglasses? Yes, for reading

 

(female only section)

Have you ever had a pregnancy? Yes, 8 miscarriages.

Have you ever had a vaginal discharge? Yes, yeast.

Have you ever had treatment for female disorder? Yes.

Have you ever had painful menstruation? Yes.

Have you ever had irregular menstruation? Yes.

How old were you when you had your first menstrual period? 10

How long do your menstrual periods last? 3 - 7 days.

When was your last period? 19 years ago.

What is the quantity of your menstrual discharge? Normal.

Have you ever had or do you now have loss of sexual desire? Frequent.

(end of female only section)

 

Have you ever had or do you now have swollen ankles? Frequent.

Have you ever had or do you now have a cough? Seldom.

Have you ever had or do you now have indigestion? Frequent, GIRD acid reflux.

Have you ever had or do you now have abdominal pain or cramps? Seldom.

Have you ever had or do you now have diarrhea? Seldom.

Have you ever had or do you now have increased appetite? Seldom.

Have you ever had or do you now have decreased appetite? Seldom.

Have you ever had or do you now have back pain? Seldom.

 

Have you ever had or do you now have arthritis? Seldom, in toes

Have you ever had or do you now have lameness? Seldom, toe and knee.

Have you ever had or do you now have backaches? Seldom.

Have you ever had or do you now have weakness? Seldom

Have you ever had or do you now have nervousness? Frequent.

Have you ever had or do you now have morning tiredness? Seldom.

Have you ever had or do you now have easy fatigability? Seldom.

Do you have or have you had weight gain recently? Yes.

How much have you lost or gained? 3 dress sizes.

 

Do you have or have you had a memory defect recently? Yes, a little

Do you have or have you had lymph node enlargement recently? Yes, sometimes

at the base of the neck.

 

Is there a history of diabetes in your family? Yes.

Who had diabetes in your family? Mother.

 

Is there a history of cancer in your family? Yes.

Who had cancer in your family? Aunt, cousin and sister died of breast cancer.

 

Is there a history of high blood pressure in your family? Yes.

Who had high blood pressure in your family? Mother.

 

 

Is there a history of asthma, hay fever or hives in your family? Yes.

Who had asthma? Paternal Grandfather.

 

Please list all operations you may have had, and your age when you had

them. 1982, age 40, two fibroid tumors removed from my uterus.

 

Observe:

 

Mind is unclear. Yes. (no spirit) Feels she can't make connections.

Clear moist color (indicates intact Stomach-Qi).

Green face color (indicates a Liver pattern, interior Cold, pain or

interior Wind) Yes.

Red color (may indicate Inflammation, fever or infection) around nose,

cheeks. Micro-circulation close to the surface, in my opinion.

Broad, square shoulders, a " Metal Type " characteristic

Fat body. Yes. Central obesity

crack at the front of the earlobe is heart.

Loose teeth, kidney essence deficient. All teeth have been replaced with

dentures.

Observe the gums. Has had gum repair surgery.

Non-pitting edema of the lower limbs. Yes

Tongue color. Red.

Tongue shape.

Tongue coating. Thin white.

Tongue moisture. Dry.

Inquire:

 

Pain that is diminished by cold. Yes. (heat)

Pain that is relieved by touch or pressure. Yes. (deficient)

Pain with bloating or a sense of fullness. Yes. (excess)

Sharp stabbing pain usually in a fixed location. Yes. (blood stasis) When

rising from a long period of sitting.

Sensation of heaviness. Yes. (damp cold, damp heat, qi deficiency or bi

syndrome)

Infrequent stool. Yes. Every other day.

Stool dry at first, then wet. Yes.

Thirst, appetite and tastes. Chicken, turkey and fish, no red meat. No

potato, carrot or corn. Alternates between Atkins and Suzanne Sommers diets.

Wake up early and not able to fall asleep again. Yes.

Heavy menstrual flow. Yes. Especially toward menopause.

Dark red or bright red menstrual blood. Yes. First day bright, then dark.

Freshred color menstrual blood. Yes, first day.

Congealed menses with clots. Yes, late in the period.

Pain during periods. Yes.

Taking contraceptive pills. Yes, three months in effort to conceive.

Have had two or more births. Eight miscarriages, no births.

White leucorrhea. Yes, yeast.

Throws off the blanket at night. Yes. (excess heat maybe liver or heart)

 

Listen & smell:

 

Clears her throat all day long, no expectorate - it goes down instead.

Crying. (Metal, lung deficiency) Used to cry a lot, therapist helped.

Depressed over childhood trauma from forced participation in bizarre

religious rituals where she was carried high into the air on a wire sling

by an eagle, thrown into a river with an anaconda, buried alive for four

hours (in a coffin), put in a box with several snakes, had to wear feathers

and smoke a peace pipe, hang upside down, handle a flaming hoop. This was

Native American ritual on her mother's side and Wicca on her father's side.

When she matured she converted to Jehovah's Witness, an improvement from

her perspective. She has panic attacks when she sees a feather.

 

Palpate:

 

Systolic blood pressure (Optimal <120; Normal <130; High Normal 133

Diastolic blood pressure (Optimal <80; 80

Heart rate. 64

Hidden pulse is an extreme form of the sinking pulse. Yes. (Deficient Yang

if weak. If strong, Deficient Cold obstructing the meridians)

 

Impressions: no spirit, intact Stomach-Qi, Liver pattern, interior Cold,

pain or interior Wind, crack at the front of the earlobe is heart, kidney

essence deficient, heat, deficient, excess, blood stasis, damp cold, damp

heat, qi deficiency or bi syndrome, excess heat maybe liver or heart, lung

deficiency.

Points that could be used, among others: Liver wind: Du 14, 16, 20, 26; Lv

3, 8 Ren 4; Sp 6; St 36; UB 17, 18, 20. Kidney Qi: Du 4; Ki 3, 12; Ren 3,

4, 6; Sp 6; UB 22, 23, 28, 39. Lung deficiency: Lu 7, 9; Ren 6, 17; St 36;

UB 13, 43.

 

Commented that she wants to do a fast, which I said I did not recommend,

and she thinks she needs a liver detox. She is taking a lot of homeopathic

stuff and some natural hormones in topical cream form, which I examined and

deemed harmless if perhaps ineffective.

 

Regards,

 

Pete

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Thorough but complicated. (Are there teeth marks in tongue body?) Root and

branch. First things first sometimes. Main complaint.

Use a 2 oscillator electric point stimulator unit bilaterally, switching

between 2hz and 32hz, at points St36 and Spl6, with needles also placed in (for

example)'knee eyes', Liv8, K10, and pair of needle at GB21 to balance tx between

upper and lower and clear old ghosts. Bring stim unit intensity up slowly to

where pt. can just feel it, leave 10 min, then increase intensity a little for

another 10 min. Upper/lower balancing points could be Lu, SJ, LI etc.

The new weight gain is hard on an old person's old knees, so introduce the tea

Er Chen Wan, with added Yi Yi Ren for 2 weeks to drain damp and with point

combo, may reinvigorate metabolism. Then revealuate to include gentle Kid

essence building, bld moving/stasis removing substances.

The trouble in the past can often be worked thru w your gentle understanding,

and non-judgemental conversation. Just a thought. peace

 

Pete Theisen <petet wrote:

Hi Everybody!

 

This lady presents with knee pain, wishes to lose weight and suffers from

acid reflux. She also had terrifying experiences as a child being forced to

undergo bizarre religious ordeals. Your comments are invited.

 

Patient: Female, age 61 Record 4 - 6- 4

 

Patient number: 0405041780 Date of birth: Dec 3, 1942

 

What is your major complaint? Right knee swollen with pain.

How long have you had this condition? 3 months

What treatments or remedies have you tried for this condition? Echinacea,

acupuncture.

 

 

Have you seen a Western Doctor for this condition? Yes.

Have you seen a Chiropractor for this condition? Yes

Have you ever had jaundice? Yes, hepatitis attack years ago.

Have you ever had a tumor, growth, cyst or cancer? Yes. Fibroids in uterus.

Have you ever had to wear eyeglasses? Yes, for reading

 

(female only section)

Have you ever had a pregnancy? Yes, 8 miscarriages.

Have you ever had a vaginal discharge? Yes, yeast.

Have you ever had treatment for female disorder? Yes.

Have you ever had painful menstruation? Yes.

Have you ever had irregular menstruation? Yes.

How old were you when you had your first menstrual period? 10

How long do your menstrual periods last? 3 - 7 days.

When was your last period? 19 years ago.

What is the quantity of your menstrual discharge? Normal.

Have you ever had or do you now have loss of sexual desire? Frequent.

(end of female only section)

 

Have you ever had or do you now have swollen ankles? Frequent.

Have you ever had or do you now have a cough? Seldom.

Have you ever had or do you now have indigestion? Frequent, GIRD acid reflux.

Have you ever had or do you now have abdominal pain or cramps? Seldom.

Have you ever had or do you now have diarrhea? Seldom.

Have you ever had or do you now have increased appetite? Seldom.

Have you ever had or do you now have decreased appetite? Seldom.

Have you ever had or do you now have back pain? Seldom.

 

Have you ever had or do you now have arthritis? Seldom, in toes

Have you ever had or do you now have lameness? Seldom, toe and knee.

Have you ever had or do you now have backaches? Seldom.

Have you ever had or do you now have weakness? Seldom

Have you ever had or do you now have nervousness? Frequent.

Have you ever had or do you now have morning tiredness? Seldom.

Have you ever had or do you now have easy fatigability? Seldom.

Do you have or have you had weight gain recently? Yes.

How much have you lost or gained? 3 dress sizes.

 

Do you have or have you had a memory defect recently? Yes, a little

Do you have or have you had lymph node enlargement recently? Yes, sometimes

at the base of the neck.

 

Is there a history of diabetes in your family? Yes.

Who had diabetes in your family? Mother.

 

Is there a history of cancer in your family? Yes.

Who had cancer in your family? Aunt, cousin and sister died of breast cancer.

 

Is there a history of high blood pressure in your family? Yes.

Who had high blood pressure in your family? Mother.

 

 

Is there a history of asthma, hay fever or hives in your family? Yes.

Who had asthma? Paternal Grandfather.

 

Please list all operations you may have had, and your age when you had

them. 1982, age 40, two fibroid tumors removed from my uterus.

 

Observe:

 

Mind is unclear. Yes. (no spirit) Feels she can't make connections.

Clear moist color (indicates intact Stomach-Qi).

Green face color (indicates a Liver pattern, interior Cold, pain or

interior Wind) Yes.

Red color (may indicate Inflammation, fever or infection) around nose,

cheeks. Micro-circulation close to the surface, in my opinion.

Broad, square shoulders, a " Metal Type " characteristic

Fat body. Yes. Central obesity

crack at the front of the earlobe is heart.

Loose teeth, kidney essence deficient. All teeth have been replaced with

dentures.

Observe the gums. Has had gum repair surgery.

Non-pitting edema of the lower limbs. Yes

Tongue color. Red.

Tongue shape.

Tongue coating. Thin white.

Tongue moisture. Dry.

Inquire:

 

Pain that is diminished by cold. Yes. (heat)

Pain that is relieved by touch or pressure. Yes. (deficient)

Pain with bloating or a sense of fullness. Yes. (excess)

Sharp stabbing pain usually in a fixed location. Yes. (blood stasis) When

rising from a long period of sitting.

Sensation of heaviness. Yes. (damp cold, damp heat, qi deficiency or bi

syndrome)

Infrequent stool. Yes. Every other day.

Stool dry at first, then wet. Yes.

Thirst, appetite and tastes. Chicken, turkey and fish, no red meat. No

potato, carrot or corn. Alternates between Atkins and Suzanne Sommers diets.

Wake up early and not able to fall asleep again. Yes.

Heavy menstrual flow. Yes. Especially toward menopause.

Dark red or bright red menstrual blood. Yes. First day bright, then dark.

Freshred color menstrual blood. Yes, first day.

Congealed menses with clots. Yes, late in the period.

Pain during periods. Yes.

Taking contraceptive pills. Yes, three months in effort to conceive.

Have had two or more births. Eight miscarriages, no births.

White leucorrhea. Yes, yeast.

Throws off the blanket at night. Yes. (excess heat maybe liver or heart)

 

Listen & smell:

 

Clears her throat all day long, no expectorate - it goes down instead.

Crying. (Metal, lung deficiency) Used to cry a lot, therapist helped.

Depressed over childhood trauma from forced participation in bizarre

religious rituals where she was carried high into the air on a wire sling

by an eagle, thrown into a river with an anaconda, buried alive for four

hours (in a coffin), put in a box with several snakes, had to wear feathers

and smoke a peace pipe, hang upside down, handle a flaming hoop. This was

Native American ritual on her mother's side and Wicca on her father's side.

When she matured she converted to Jehovah's Witness, an improvement from

her perspective. She has panic attacks when she sees a feather.

 

Palpate:

 

Systolic blood pressure (Optimal <120; Normal <130; High Normal 133

Diastolic blood pressure (Optimal <80; 80

Heart rate. 64

Hidden pulse is an extreme form of the sinking pulse. Yes. (Deficient Yang

if weak. If strong, Deficient Cold obstructing the meridians)

 

Impressions: no spirit, intact Stomach-Qi, Liver pattern, interior Cold,

pain or interior Wind, crack at the front of the earlobe is heart, kidney

essence deficient, heat, deficient, excess, blood stasis, damp cold, damp

heat, qi deficiency or bi syndrome, excess heat maybe liver or heart, lung

deficiency.

Points that could be used, among others: Liver wind: Du 14, 16, 20, 26; Lv

3, 8 Ren 4; Sp 6; St 36; UB 17, 18, 20. Kidney Qi: Du 4; Ki 3, 12; Ren 3,

4, 6; Sp 6; UB 22, 23, 28, 39. Lung deficiency: Lu 7, 9; Ren 6, 17; St 36;

UB 13, 43.

 

Commented that she wants to do a fast, which I said I did not recommend,

and she thinks she needs a liver detox. She is taking a lot of homeopathic

stuff and some natural hormones in topical cream form, which I examined and

deemed harmless if perhaps ineffective.

 

Regards,

 

Pete

 

 

 

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Pete,

 

Some other helpful information might be what her mental state has

been over the years. I saw the anxiety, but how far has the

childhood trauma taken her? Is she suicidal, bipolar, have mental

blackouts of blocks of time? Dislike certain periods of the day?

 

I usually think of an aggresive energy treatment or possession

treatment in a situation like this.

 

There are also support groups out there for people who survive

religious rituals as a child.

 

I have a friend with a similar childhood (except worse). He has a lot

of cold damp signs, but also gets fire which over time I realized was

maybe even more significant than the cold. I mention this because it

was a while before I realized how significant that component was

because it seemed disguised by all the cold symptoms. Your patient

looks like she probably has some kd yin xu, but the childhood trauma

could lead to xue xu also and with the phlegm might be aggravating

the heat. Does she tend to anger easily? Depressed at all?

 

oh well, I guess I created more questions than answers. Hope this

helps.

 

--brian

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Hi Mystir!

 

No teeth marks. Thanks for your feedback!

 

At 08:10 PM 4/7/2004, you wrote:

>Thorough but complicated. (Are there teeth marks in tongue body?) Root

>and branch. First things first sometimes. Main complaint.

> Use a 2 oscillator electric point stimulator unit bilaterally,

> switching between 2hz and 32hz, at points St36 and Spl6, with needles

> also placed in (for example)'knee eyes', Liv8, K10, and pair of needle at

> GB21 to balance tx between upper and lower and clear old ghosts. Bring

> stim unit intensity up slowly to where pt. can just feel it, leave 10

> min, then increase intensity a little for another 10 min. Upper/lower

> balancing points could be Lu, SJ, LI etc.

> The new weight gain is hard on an old person's old knees, so introduce

> the tea Er Chen Wan, with added Yi Yi Ren for 2 weeks to drain damp and

> with point combo, may reinvigorate metabolism. Then revealuate to include

> gentle Kid essence building, bld moving/stasis removing substances.

> The trouble in the past can often be worked thru w your gentle

> understanding, and non-judgemental conversation. Just a thought. peace

>

>Pete Theisen <petet wrote:

>Hi Everybody!

>

>This lady presents with knee pain, wishes to lose weight and suffers from

>acid reflux. She also had terrifying experiences as a child being forced to

>undergo bizarre religious ordeals. Your comments are invited.

 

Regards,

 

Pete

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Hi Brian!

 

She has been in therapy and seems to be doing fine but for the knee pain.

She did not mention any of the things you describe, but I could ask about

these next visit. Thanks for responding.

 

At 09:37 PM 4/7/2004, you wrote:

 

>Pete,

>

>Some other helpful information might be what her mental state has

>been over the years. I saw the anxiety, but how far has the

>childhood trauma taken her? Is she suicidal, bipolar, have mental

>blackouts of blocks of time? Dislike certain periods of the day? <snip>

 

Regards,

 

Pete

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