Notes from Xi Yuan hospital, part 2, Qi Stagnation and Facial Diagnosis

[Guest guest]

Hi all,

 

Quick correction. I said in a previous post that the formula Chuan

Hu (Chuan Xiong and San Qi) can increase micro-vascular density. I

meant can increase micro-vessel density. Sorry.

 

We were discussing Qi stagnation turning into Heat not so long back.

My doctor today gave another interesting insight into this. He said

that Qi stagnation turns into Heat principally because of two

reasons. One, Qi is Yang and so can easily turn into Heat. The

second is that Qi stagnation can be affected by the body's own Yang

Qi, the surrounding Yang Qi. Very much like leaving a glass of water

out in the open, it will be warm with the sun in the day and cold at

night.

 

Face diagnosis

 

The doctor gave us a lecture on face diagnosis. There are four

systems of facial diagnosis. In all systems, Five Element colours

apply aswell as other diagnostic criteria, i.e. pale is blood

deficient. We have been using this in diagnosing patients and have

been very useful. This also goes back to the idea of what is a good

doctor. So the best doctor can simply look at the patient and know

what's wrong, whilst we mortals have to ask questions and are so the

least good doctors, so it goes.

 

1. Ming Tang system. For adults functional disorder. No I won't

be trying to draw any pictures of these points, sorry.

 

Between the two eyebrows is the Lung

Between the eyes is the Heart.

On the high point of the nose is the Liver

Tip of the nose is the Spleen.

Upper third of the philtrum in females is the womb and in males it's

the urinary bladder.

From the inner corner of the eye down to the Liver, the crossing

point is the Gallbladder.

From the pupil down to the point of the Spleen, the crossing point

is the Small Intestine.

From the outer corner of the eye down to the point of the Spleen,

the crossing point is the Large Intestine.

The chin is the Kidney.

From the corner of the inner eye down to the point of the Spleen,

the crossing point is the Stomach.

 

If the disease is chronic then the area is small, if its acute it's

large.

 

2. Re Bing system. Applies mainly to children but can also be used

for adults.

 

Forehead is the Heart.

The right cheek is the Lung whilst the left cheek is the Liver.

The nose is the Spleen.

The chin is the Kidney.

 

3. Wu Lun system. To observe the area around the eye.

 

The upper eye lid is the Stomach.

The lower eye lid is the Spleen.

The sclera is the Lung.

The iris is the Liver.

The pupil is the Kidney.

The red inner and outer areas of the eye are the Heart.

 

4. Wu Ti system. First, let me explain the `doorway' theory. A

Zangfu organ is like a room with a door. If the disease is in the

door it is in the organ. This all relates to the Nei Jing.

 

Above the eye brows is the Lung. Between the eyebrows is the door of

the Lung. Any colour in the door means there is a disease of the

Lung.

The ear is the Kidney. A good ear is big, thick, doesn't protrude

outwards and has large lobes. A dry ear is a chronic Kidney disease,

whilst a coloured area of skin that `points' towards the ear means

disease. (I know, odd, don't know much more than that).

The Lips and around the mouth is related to the Spleen. The mouth is

the doorway of the Spleen and Heart. Colour in these areas means a

disorder with the Spleen or Heart.

The eye is related to the Liver. Colour around the eye shows a

disease in the Liver.

The tongue is the Heart.

 

I hope members find this info useful. If anyone has any info on

these systems i'll be interested to hear of it.

 

Attilio

[Guest guest]

Dear Attilio,

 

You mention below .. I appreciate difficulty getting clarification. However

it would be interesting to learn of any further thoughts on the prostate in

China (and prostate disease) in relation to all this.

 

In the west there has been some association of prostate cancer with exposure

to estrogen mimetics in the environment and in industial process:

construction & electrical industry, farming and dye industry. Is there an

increaing detection & mortality rate in construction or electrical or dye

workers or farmers (farminmg communities) using pesticides ? Two chemicals

known to cause problems are dioxin and bisphenol which are present in dyes,

plastic and insecticides ?

 

> Upper third of the philtrum in females is the womb and in males it's the

urinary bladder.

> The chin is the Kidney.

>The pupil is the Kidney.

 

and ..

 

>The ear is the Kidney. A good ear is big, thick, doesn't protrude

outwards and has large lobes. A dry ear is a chronic Kidney disease,

whilst a coloured area of skin that `points' towards the ear means

disease. (I know, odd, don't know much more than that).

 

 

-

" " <attiliodalberto

<Chinese Medicine >

Tuesday, April 06, 2004 10:56 AM

Notes from Xi Yuan hospital, part 2, Qi Stagnation and Facial

Diagnosis

 

 

Hi all,

 

Quick correction. I said in a previous post that the formula Chuan

Hu (Chuan Xiong and San Qi) can increase micro-vascular density. I

meant can increase micro-vessel density. Sorry.

 

We were discussing Qi stagnation turning into Heat not so long back.

My doctor today gave another interesting insight into this. He said

that Qi stagnation turns into Heat principally because of two

reasons. One, Qi is Yang and so can easily turn into Heat. The

second is that Qi stagnation can be affected by the body's own Yang

Qi, the surrounding Yang Qi. Very much like leaving a glass of water

out in the open, it will be warm with the sun in the day and cold at

night.

 

Face diagnosis

 

The doctor gave us a lecture on face diagnosis. There are four

systems of facial diagnosis. In all systems, Five Element colours

apply aswell as other diagnostic criteria, i.e. pale is blood

deficient. We have been using this in diagnosing patients and have

been very useful. This also goes back to the idea of what is a good

doctor. So the best doctor can simply look at the patient and know

what's wrong, whilst we mortals have to ask questions and are so the

least good doctors, so it goes.

 

1. Ming Tang system. For adults functional disorder. No I won't

be trying to draw any pictures of these points, sorry.

 

Between the two eyebrows is the Lung

Between the eyes is the Heart.

On the high point of the nose is the Liver

Tip of the nose is the Spleen.

Upper third of the philtrum in females is the womb and in males it's

the urinary bladder.

From the inner corner of the eye down to the Liver, the crossing

point is the Gallbladder.

From the pupil down to the point of the Spleen, the crossing point

is the Small Intestine.

From the outer corner of the eye down to the point of the Spleen,

the crossing point is the Large Intestine.

The chin is the Kidney.

From the corner of the inner eye down to the point of the Spleen,

the crossing point is the Stomach.

 

If the disease is chronic then the area is small, if its acute it's

large.

 

2. Re Bing system. Applies mainly to children but can also be used

for adults.

 

Forehead is the Heart.

The right cheek is the Lung whilst the left cheek is the Liver.

The nose is the Spleen.

The chin is the Kidney.

 

3. Wu Lun system. To observe the area around the eye.

 

The upper eye lid is the Stomach.

The lower eye lid is the Spleen.

The sclera is the Lung.

The iris is the Liver.

The pupil is the Kidney.

The red inner and outer areas of the eye are the Heart.

 

4. Wu Ti system. First, let me explain the `doorway' theory. A

Zangfu organ is like a room with a door. If the disease is in the

door it is in the organ. This all relates to the Nei Jing.

 

Above the eye brows is the Lung. Between the eyebrows is the door of

the Lung. Any colour in the door means there is a disease of the

Lung.

The ear is the Kidney. A good ear is big, thick, doesn't protrude

outwards and has large lobes. A dry ear is a chronic Kidney disease,

whilst a coloured area of skin that `points' towards the ear means

disease. (I know, odd, don't know much more than that).

The Lips and around the mouth is related to the Spleen. The mouth is

the doorway of the Spleen and Heart. Colour in these areas means a

disorder with the Spleen or Heart.

The eye is related to the Liver. Colour around the eye shows a

disease in the Liver.

The tongue is the Heart.

 

I hope members find this info useful. If anyone has any info on

these systems i'll be interested to hear of it.

 

Attilio

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Hi Sammy,

 

I spoke to the doctor today, his name is Li Zhong Wen by the way,

and he said the prostate is located on the philtrum area of the

face. So this pretty much goes with what he said earlier.

 

Attilio

 

" Sammy Bates " <sammy_bates@b...> wrote:

> Dear Attilio,

>

> You mention below .. I appreciate difficulty getting

clarification. However

> it would be interesting to learn of any further thoughts on the

prostate in

> China (and prostate disease) in relation to all this.

>

> In the west there has been some association of prostate cancer

with exposure

> to estrogen mimetics in the environment and in industial process:

> construction & electrical industry, farming and dye industry. Is

there an

> increaing detection & mortality rate in construction or electrical

or dye

> workers or farmers (farminmg communities) using pesticides ? Two

chemicals

> known to cause problems are dioxin and bisphenol which are present

in dyes,

> plastic and insecticides ?

>

> > Upper third of the philtrum in females is the womb and in males

it's the

> urinary bladder.

> > The chin is the Kidney.

> >The pupil is the Kidney.

>

> and ..

>

> >The ear is the Kidney. A good ear is big, thick, doesn't protrude

> outwards and has large lobes. A dry ear is a chronic Kidney

disease,

> whilst a coloured area of skin that `points' towards the ear means

> disease. (I know, odd, don't know much more than that).

>

>

> -

> " " <attiliodalberto>

> <Chinese Medicine >

> Tuesday, April 06, 2004 10:56 AM

> Notes from Xi Yuan hospital, part 2, Qi Stagnation

and Facial

> Diagnosis

>

>

> Hi all,

>

> Quick correction. I said in a previous post that the formula Chuan

> Hu (Chuan Xiong and San Qi) can increase micro-vascular density. I

> meant can increase micro-vessel density. Sorry.

>

> We were discussing Qi stagnation turning into Heat not so long

back.

> My doctor today gave another interesting insight into this. He said

> that Qi stagnation turns into Heat principally because of two

> reasons. One, Qi is Yang and so can easily turn into Heat. The

> second is that Qi stagnation can be affected by the body's own Yang

> Qi, the surrounding Yang Qi. Very much like leaving a glass of

water

> out in the open, it will be warm with the sun in the day and cold

at

> night.

>

> Face diagnosis

>

> The doctor gave us a lecture on face diagnosis. There are four

> systems of facial diagnosis. In all systems, Five Element colours

> apply aswell as other diagnostic criteria, i.e. pale is blood

> deficient. We have been using this in diagnosing patients and have

> been very useful. This also goes back to the idea of what is a good

> doctor. So the best doctor can simply look at the patient and know

> what's wrong, whilst we mortals have to ask questions and are so

the

> least good doctors, so it goes.

>

> 1. Ming Tang system. For adults functional disorder. No I won't

> be trying to draw any pictures of these points, sorry.

>

> Between the two eyebrows is the Lung

> Between the eyes is the Heart.

> On the high point of the nose is the Liver

> Tip of the nose is the Spleen.

> Upper third of the philtrum in females is the womb and in males

it's

> the urinary bladder.

> From the inner corner of the eye down to the Liver, the crossing

> point is the Gallbladder.

> From the pupil down to the point of the Spleen, the crossing point

> is the Small Intestine.

> From the outer corner of the eye down to the point of the Spleen,

> the crossing point is the Large Intestine.

> The chin is the Kidney.

> From the corner of the inner eye down to the point of the Spleen,

> the crossing point is the Stomach.

>

> If the disease is chronic then the area is small, if its acute it's

> large.

>

> 2. Re Bing system. Applies mainly to children but can also be used

> for adults.

>

> Forehead is the Heart.

> The right cheek is the Lung whilst the left cheek is the Liver.

> The nose is the Spleen.

> The chin is the Kidney.

>

> 3. Wu Lun system. To observe the area around the eye.

>

> The upper eye lid is the Stomach.

> The lower eye lid is the Spleen.

> The sclera is the Lung.

> The iris is the Liver.

> The pupil is the Kidney.

> The red inner and outer areas of the eye are the Heart.

>

> 4. Wu Ti system. First, let me explain the `doorway' theory. A

> Zangfu organ is like a room with a door. If the disease is in the

> door it is in the organ. This all relates to the Nei Jing.

>

> Above the eye brows is the Lung. Between the eyebrows is the door

of

> the Lung. Any colour in the door means there is a disease of the

> Lung.

> The ear is the Kidney. A good ear is big, thick, doesn't protrude

> outwards and has large lobes. A dry ear is a chronic Kidney

disease,

> whilst a coloured area of skin that `points' towards the ear means

> disease. (I know, odd, don't know much more than that).

> The Lips and around the mouth is related to the Spleen. The mouth

is

> the doorway of the Spleen and Heart. Colour in these areas means a

> disorder with the Spleen or Heart.

> The eye is related to the Liver. Colour around the eye shows a

> disease in the Liver.

> The tongue is the Heart.

>

> I hope members find this info useful. If anyone has any info on

> these systems i'll be interested to hear of it.

>

> Attilio

>

>

>

>

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