Guest guest Posted April 4, 2004 Report Share Posted April 4, 2004 Hi Attilio! " Tackling " the CU might be an exercise in futility. Better to undertake an information campaign to congress and the public stressing the positive aspects of Traditional Chinese Herbology. At 10:31 PM 4/3/2004, Susan wrote: >Hi, Attilio, and all, >Although I agree with you about banning herbs, over-regulation, etc., I >would like to comment on Consumers' Union. This is an organization that >began publishing a magazine in the 1930's, I think, testing ptroducts and >services. It has absoulutely no advertising, and is run on donations and >subscriptions to the magaxine, Consumer Reports. It is an excellent source >of more reality-based information about everything ><snip> > the consumer's union. Has anyone got any more info on this organisation? > Or any method of tackling it? > > > > Attilio<snip> Regards, Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2004 Report Share Posted April 5, 2004 > Ahhh, now it seems were getting to the root of the problem in the > US, with the consumer's union. Has anyone got any more info on this > organisation? Or any method of tackling it? > > Attilio In January 94 Consumer Reports wrote articles on Acupuncture and Homeopathy that were less than flattering. They are not available online but are available by mail ask for page 51 for the acupuncture article. Now in this issue the 4-1-04 they have a public campaign to write our legislators to ban herbs going on on their website. It might really behoove us to make friends with these people. Though we will have our work cut out for us. Consumer Reports Identifies 'Dirty Dozen' Supplements 04/01/04 Consumer Reports Identifies 'Dirty Dozen' Supplements Despite government warnings, at least 12 dangerous supplements are still on the market. Click here to read our investigation about these supplements and what you can do to avoid them. Click here to tell Congress to pass legislation that will make it easier to remove dangerous supplements from the shelves. https://secure2.convio.net/cu/site/Advocacy?id=145 & page=UserAction & JServSessionI\ dr010=zl6n8095h1.app7a Urge Stricter FDA Oversight of Dietary Supplements Write your Legislators now! Strengthen Federal Law to better ensure the safety of dietary supplements! As you may know, the FDA recently banned the sale of ephedra, a substance linked to more than 100 deaths and almost 1,400 adverse events, including heart attacks, strokes and seizures. While we strongly support the FDA's action to ban ephedra, dangers remain relating to the use of other dietary supplements. ACT NOW! As reported in a January 2004 issue of Consumer Reports (See article), herbal supplements that are labeled 'ephedra-free' are not necessarily safer than ephedra. Many include similar central nervous stimulants, such as synephrine-containing bitter orange (citrus aurantium) that may affect the body in similar ways. Despite the recent ephedra ban other ingredients that the FDA has warned could cause harm to consumers continue to be sold today. These include chaparral, comfrey, lobelia and yohimbe. Dietary supplements lack the testing and labeling to warn consumers of product ingredients that may interact unfavorably with other medicines. In fact, manufacturers may sell dietary supplements that have never been tested for safety. Currently, the FDA has the burden of showing that a supplement presents an unreasonable risk of harm before it can try to take if off the market. This is difficult because manufacturers are not required to tell FDA when they have information that their product has caused harm -- or even death. We believe that manufacturers should be required to report all adverse events promptly to the FDA, and that federal governement should not permit dietary supplements that contain stimulants or " sterioid precursors " be sold without adequate pre-market safety testing. Your participation takes two minutes and will make a difference. We urge you to write to your lawmakers in support of S. 722 and H.R. 3377, legislation that will give the FDA authority to ensure manufacturers turn over reports of injury or death caused by their products, and that certain supplements be safety tested before being put on the market. Learn more or take action now! · Your Senators · Your Representative http://www.consumersunion.org/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2004 Report Share Posted April 5, 2004 " In January 94 Consumer Reports wrote articles on Acupuncture and Homeopathy that were less than flattering. They are not available online but are available by mail ask for page 51 for the acupuncture article. .......... " Although the May 2004 Consumers Report article has some good points, it does not in its text mention that herbs and formulated supplements are used not only by the general public, but also prescribed by trained professionals (herbalists). It does not mention the alleged exemption for traditional medical use in the FDA's language. In two sidebars, however, it mentions 2 people in the U.S. whose kidneys failed after using aristolochic acid products. In one, it mentioned that the patient is suing her acupuncturist (it did not mention whether the acupuncturist was a trained herbalist) and the herb company, which claims the herbs were adulterated with aa. The clear impression from this is that anyone who uses herbs prescribed by an acupuncturist or other traditional practitioner or produced by an herbal company is a fool. Given that this magazine is hugely influential in this country (note the recent frenzy after Verizon was voted best cell phone service provider), I think it will be very difficult to overcome this impression without concentrated, focused responses. This kind of public image is very damaging to the profession. Pat ============================================================================== NOTE: The information in this email is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not read, use or disseminate the information. Although this email and any attachments are believed to be free of any virus or other defect that might affect any computer system into which it is received and opened, it is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that it is virus free and no responsibility is accepted by Cadwalader, Wickersham & Taft LLP for any loss or damage arising in any way from its use. ============================================================================== Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2004 Report Share Posted April 11, 2004 -- " Susan Atlas " <susan.atlas wrote: In recent years, they have taken on a more political role in some of their articles about medicine, insurance, nursing homes, etc.However, they have no relation to labor unions or anything like that. It appears the Consumers Union is in cahoots with Stephen Barrett of Quackbusters fame. Chiros were fighting to get insurance payments in 1978 in the USA and also New Zealand They found themselves up against the consumers union and quackbusters as well and won in the fight in getting insurance reimbursement. http://www.chiro.org/chiro-list/newsfile/nz-barrett.html A look back into time sometimes reveals that an organization or individuals may seem to have an special agenda. The following quoted excerpts from a 1979 New Zealand Government investigation brings such questions to mind: Commissioned by the New Zealand Government in 1978, The New Zealand Report developed into the most comprehensive and detailed independent examination, at that time, of chiropractic ever undertaken in any country. The focus of the investigation was to consider whether health and accident benefits should be made for chiropractic services. When the Report was commissioned, it was believed it would take a month or two at the most to resolve the issues, but it took nearly two years, generating over 3600 pages of testimony under Oath from numerous witnesses and thousands of pages documents submitted from organizations and private parties from around the world. The investigators also traveled to Canada, the United States, the United Kingdom and Australia in their quest for information. The lengthy report was presented in September 1979, long before the findings, favorable to chiropractic and manipulation, appeared in the Rand Study, Meade studies, BMJ, Magna Report, ACHPR report on back pain, and the subsequent numerous journal research studies. In the United States, the Commission interviewed the American Medical Association, American Chiropractic Association, Council on Chiropractic Education, Foundation for Chiropractic Education and Research, Blue Cross & Blue Shield, and various individuals. The New Zealand Report was printed in 1979, by the New Zealand Government Printer. Most large research libraries either have copies or can obtain copies for those interested in reading this eye-opening investigation. Of interest, with regards to Dr. Stephen Barrett is Chapter 21 of the report, entitled " North American Sources " , which is quoted in it's entirety: (at the link above) The New Zealand government found them to be biased and unreliable. go to the URL to see how New Zealand saw through them. In the mean time about 2.5 years ago Quackbusters Stephen Barrett filed a complaint resulting in a lawsuit against several homeopathic pharmacies in the USA and those charges were also thrown out and found to be ungrouded in a court of law last year. Unfortunately it did go to trial but Barrett was found to be unreliable in his charges there too. They have a habit of filing lawsuits against anyone to maske them prove their product or medicine works. In the homeopathic case the whole system of medicine went on trial for homeopaths to prove that something so diluted could in fact be a medicine. Barrett Lost his case! Perhaps we can use this to our advantage somehow. Sunny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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