Guest guest Posted April 5, 2004 Report Share Posted April 5, 2004 I don't know the thread here, but I was told by a couple of teachers, from the same training, that the 4 gates were used as an initial acupuncture treatment, to allow the patient who has never had acupuncture before, to adjust and acclimate to the process. I myself don't always open with it. fran " Dr. Holmes Keikobad " <acuheal wrote: Can anyone clarify this? Using the Four Gates, bilateral LV 3 and LI 4, what type of stimulation does one emply? Tone both? Reduce both? Or just let the needles lie? Also, does one do the conventional depth or the shallow Japanese one? Will apreciate input. Dr. Holmes Keikobad MB BS DPH Ret. DIP AC NCCAOM LIC AC CO & AZ www.acu-free.com - 15 CEUS by video. NCCAOM reviewed. Approved in CA & most states. Membership requires that you do not post any commerical, swear, religious, spam messages,flame another member or swear. To change your email delivery settings, Chinese Medicine/ click ‘edit my membership' on the right hand side and adjust accordingly. If you , it takes a few days for the messages to stop being delivered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2004 Report Share Posted April 5, 2004 Sorry Dr K, I forgot to say usually for a new patient, I get a little dechi at whatever depth gives it (depends on season and individual), and let them stay for a bit. For nervous ones, seeing the needle in without pain, relaxes them and familiarizes them w the procedure. mystir <ykcul_ritsym wrote:I don't know the thread here, but I was told by a couple of teachers, from the same training, that the 4 gates were used as an initial acupuncture treatment, to allow the patient who has never had acupuncture before, to adjust and acclimate to the process. I myself don't always open with it. fran " Dr. Holmes Keikobad " wrote: Can anyone clarify this? Using the Four Gates, bilateral LV 3 and LI 4, what type of stimulation does one emply? Tone both? Reduce both? Or just let the needles lie? Also, does one do the conventional depth or the shallow Japanese one? Will apreciate input. Dr. Holmes Keikobad MB BS DPH Ret. DIP AC NCCAOM LIC AC CO & AZ www.acu-free.com - 15 CEUS by video. NCCAOM reviewed. Approved in CA & most states. Membership requires that you do not post any commerical, swear, religious, spam messages,flame another member or swear. To change your email delivery settings, Chinese Medicine/ click ‘edit my membership' on the right hand side and adjust accordingly. If you , it takes a few days for the messages to stop being delivered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2004 Report Share Posted April 5, 2004 Hi Fran (or Anna)! On your recent, rather longish post on chip implants you were Anna. Here you are Fran. Both of you have a nice day. <g> At 10:48 PM 4/4/2004, you wrote: >Sorry Dr K, I forgot to say usually for a new patient, I get a little >dechi at whatever depth gives it (depends on season and individual), and >let them stay for a bit. For nervous ones, seeing the needle in without >pain, relaxes them and familiarizes them w the procedure. > >mystir <ykcul_ritsym wrote:I don't know the thread here, but I >was told by a couple of teachers, from the same training, that the 4 gates >were used as an initial acupuncture treatment, to allow the patient who >has never had acupuncture before, to adjust and acclimate to the process. >I myself don't always open with it. fran <snip> Regards, Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2004 Report Share Posted April 6, 2004 Hi Pete, you must have read the post. You may have also seen a Bob in there, because they have given source material. peace, fran Pete Theisen <petet wrote:Hi Fran (or Anna)! On your recent, rather longish post on chip implants you were Anna. Here you are Fran. Both of you have a nice day. <g> At 10:48 PM 4/4/2004, you wrote: >Sorry Dr K, I forgot to say usually for a new patient, I get a little >dechi at whatever depth gives it (depends on season and individual), and >let them stay for a bit. For nervous ones, seeing the needle in without >pain, relaxes them and familiarizes them w the procedure. > >mystir <ykcul_ritsym wrote:I don't know the thread here, but I >was told by a couple of teachers, from the same training, that the 4 gates >were used as an initial acupuncture treatment, to allow the patient who >has never had acupuncture before, to adjust and acclimate to the process. >I myself don't always open with it. fran <snip> Regards, Pete Membership requires that you do not post any commerical, swear, religious, spam messages,flame another member or swear. To change your email delivery settings, Chinese Medicine/ click ‘edit my membership' on the right hand side and adjust accordingly. If you , it takes a few days for the messages to stop being delivered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2004 Report Share Posted April 6, 2004 Hi Fran! So you are Fran while Anna and Bob contributed? I missed Bob on my reading of it. At 08:13 PM 4/5/2004, you wrote: >Hi Pete, you must have read the post. You may have also seen a Bob in >there, because they have given source material. peace, fran > >Pete Theisen <petet wrote:Hi Fran (or Anna)! > >On your recent, rather longish post on chip implants you were Anna. Here >you are Fran. Both of you have a nice day. <g><snip> Regards, Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2004 Report Share Posted April 7, 2004 Correct. More on that topic of the past week, and others that I would think interesting to medical workers and modern world citizens are in ' health_and_healing '. They have apx 20000 posts to search as good reference to patients and practitioners of many paths. I have a few dozen aliases. peace Pete Theisen <petet wrote: Hi Fran! So you are Fran while Anna and Bob contributed? I missed Bob on my reading of it. At 08:13 PM 4/5/2004, you wrote: >Hi Pete, you must have read the post. You may have also seen a Bob in >there, because they have given source material. peace, fran > >Pete Theisen <petet wrote:Hi Fran (or Anna)! > >On your recent, rather longish post on chip implants you were Anna. Here >you are Fran. Both of you have a nice day. <g><snip> Regards, Pete Membership requires that you do not post any commerical, swear, religious, spam messages,flame another member or swear. To change your email delivery settings, Chinese Medicine/ click ‘edit my membership' on the right hand side and adjust accordingly. If you , it takes a few days for the messages to stop being delivered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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