Guest guest Posted March 30, 2004 Report Share Posted March 30, 2004 Dear group, I am hoping to get some guidance with a case. Does anybody have any experience in treating Lou Gehrig's disease? I have a patient being worked up for that. She is an obese female, early 40's. She is currently home-bound, using a wheelchair. Both shoulders 3/5 strength, R leg can only quad set. Bicep/tricep are 4/5. L leg can lift (from sitting position) about 1/2 against gravity. In December, her mother was shot 6 times by a long-term friend, and my patient would also probably have been shot except for circumstances that day. The mother has fully recovered and is doing well. Patient says she was probably more traumatized by the event than her mother. One month later, my patient slipped on ice, and progressively got weaker and weaker. Poor appetite (gets hungry, but full after eating just a few bites), low energy, bruises easily. Breathes with only the upper chest, using accessory muscles to help. Pulses deficient (don't have her chart right here), tongue light red with thick white coat. I have treated her 3 times; she felt slightly more energetic after the first one, and weaker after the second. I am using the Yangming channel to treat, with additional points to help the Spleen. My question is: am I wasting her time and money? Any success with Lou Gehrig's? Anybody with words of wisdom for me? I appreciate your help. Diane Bryson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2004 Report Share Posted March 31, 2004 Hi, Diane a weakened SP can be a side effect of a Def. heart Pericardium. it can also be due to to a weak LU or excess KID or LIV. but we dont know it is a weak Spleen. a weak LU might also create this symptoms. One problem with using the word 'disease' is that we stop seeing the human being This person has suffred extreme trauma that has disurbed root disharmonies. If you send me her date of birth I will be willing to work with you. salvador ___- >Dear group, > >I am hoping to get some guidance with a case. Does anybody have any >experience in treating Lou Gehrig's disease? I have a patient being worked >up for >that. She is an obese female, early 40's. She is currently home-bound, >using a >wheelchair. Both shoulders 3/5 strength, R leg can only quad set. >Bicep/tricep are 4/5. L leg can lift (from sitting position) about 1/2 >against gravity. > > >In December, her mother was shot 6 times by a long-term friend, and my >patient would also probably have been shot except for circumstances that >day. The >mother has fully recovered and is doing well. Patient says she was >probably >more traumatized by the event than her mother. One month later, my patient >slipped on ice, and progressively got weaker and weaker. > >Poor appetite (gets hungry, but full after eating just a few bites), low >energy, bruises easily. Breathes with only the upper chest, using >accessory >muscles to help. Pulses deficient (don't have her chart right here), >tongue light >red with thick white coat. I have treated her 3 times; she felt slightly >more energetic after the first one, and weaker after the second. I am >using the >Yangming channel to treat, with additional points to help the Spleen. > >My question is: am I wasting her time and money? Any success with Lou >Gehrig's? Anybody with words of wisdom for me? I appreciate your help. >Diane Bryson _______________ Stay in touch with absent friends - get MSN Messenger http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2004 Report Share Posted April 1, 2004 Hi Diane! There should be a *lot* in print on this - Chairman Mao was treated for many years for Lou Gehrig's disease. I haven't had the occasion to look it up myself. It may be all in Chinese, though. At 10:46 PM 3/30/2004, you wrote: >Dear group, > >I am hoping to get some guidance with a case. Does anybody have any >experience in treating Lou Gehrig's disease? I have a patient being >worked up for >that. She is an obese female, early 40's. She is currently home-bound, >using a >wheelchair. Both shoulders 3/5 strength, R leg can only quad set. >Bicep/tricep are 4/5. L leg can lift (from sitting position) about 1/2 >against gravity. > > >In December, her mother was shot 6 times by a long-term friend, and my >patient would also probably have been shot except for circumstances that >day. The >mother has fully recovered and is doing well. Patient says she was probably >more traumatized by the event than her mother. One month later, my patient >slipped on ice, and progressively got weaker and weaker. > >Poor appetite (gets hungry, but full after eating just a few bites), low >energy, bruises easily. Breathes with only the upper chest, using accessory >muscles to help. Pulses deficient (don't have her chart right here), >tongue light >red with thick white coat. I have treated her 3 times; she felt slightly >more energetic after the first one, and weaker after the second. I am >using the >Yangming channel to treat, with additional points to help the Spleen. > >My question is: am I wasting her time and money? Any success with Lou >Gehrig's? Anybody with words of wisdom for me? I appreciate your help. >Diane Bryson > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2004 Report Share Posted April 2, 2004 Hi Diane. on second thought, I think it might be the other way around, as you;l apreciate it is hard to give advice without experiencing the person for one self. But I have had people of similar emotional make up before. what you do is test your theory. 1st sedate LU-9 if patient feels more relaxed after 5 minutes and there is more clear saliva in mouth add other points like LU-1 , 8,7 etc., not too manyt in one session. 2nd if the above works Ton -LIV-3 you might also tonify P-7 or H-7 3rd Tonify LI- 4 ,11 and 14. if the above works ie. patient feels more relaxed ,abit more energy, etc., then future sessions 4-6 ?would be based on the same principle of Sedating LU and tonifying LI you would not need to continue to tonify the LIV or HE / P as the root would sort that out. Try one session and get back. Salvador > >I am hoping to get some guidance with a case. Does anybody have any > >experience in treating Lou Gehrig's disease? I have a patient being > >worked up for > >that. She is an obese female, early 40's. She is currently home-bound, > >using a > >wheelchair. Both shoulders 3/5 strength, R leg can only quad set. > >Bicep/tricep are 4/5. L leg can lift (from sitting position) about 1/2 > >against gravity. > > > > > >In December, her mother was shot 6 times by a long-term friend, and my > >patient would also probably have been shot except for circumstances that > >day. The > >mother has fully recovered and is doing well. Patient says she was >probably > >more traumatized by the event than her mother. One month later, my >patient > >slipped on ice, and progressively got weaker and weaker. > > > >Poor appetite (gets hungry, but full after eating just a few bites), low > >energy, bruises easily. Breathes with only the upper chest, using >accessory > >muscles to help. Pulses deficient (don't have her chart right here), > >tongue light > >red with thick white coat. I have treated her 3 times; she felt >slightly > >more energetic after the first one, and weaker after the second. I am > >using the > >Yangming channel to treat, with additional points to help the Spleen. > > > >My question is: am I wasting her time and money? Any success with Lou > >Gehrig's? Anybody with words of wisdom for me? I appreciate your help. > >Diane Bryson > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2006 Report Share Posted April 6, 2006 Lou Gehrig's disease, I believe, affects the muscles. It usually starts in the lower extremities and works its way up the body; to start with, people have trouble walking, then using their arms, and finally it affects their respiratory and pulmonary systems. Life expectancy is generally around 3-5 years once diagnosed. My pastor's wife had a brother-in-law with it. And I had a friend who had it a couple years ago, except it started in her head and worked its way down. She had difficulty eating and talking, and was diagnosed. She died less than a year later. I'd suggest Doc's 'Incurables Program', in the files. Tracy in Ohio Both life and death hold God's promises for me! - Gina Kopera herbal remedies Wednesday, April 05, 2006 6:27 PM Re: Herbal Remedies - MS Do a Total Body Cleanse, I dont think anyone can go wrong with that. Christine Miller <earthchild.flower wrote: Hi Roger, Do you know anything about Lou Gericks Disease ( i'm guessing on the spelling ) A friend of mine just found out he has this and i was wondering if you or anyone else knew much about it . Anything he could take to get rid of this or help with it ? I'm not sure what it does . Any help would be appreciated. Thank You ! Chris Roger Jenkins <starbucks_coffee_stinks wrote: There is a natural cure! It involves the following: Since MS is an auto immune disease, it can be corrected with diet/lifestyle. 1) Absolutely NO Dairy products except butter (butter is a fat, it contains no proteins, however, olive oil should be the fat of choice). 2) Cut down on meats as much as possible. 3) Increase intake of salmon (wild caught is better than farm raised). 4) wait 3 months and improvement should begin! Hi Gina??I took care of a wonderful woman for 7 years who hadMS, she passed away from complications of it a yearago, as I was reading your story all I could do wascry as an answer was as close as this group. Couldyou please give me more info about what you did as Iknow that a few of this women's friends and a cousin Ibelieve also have MS. I have done the MS walks toraise money but if there is a natural caure, Heck YEAI am all about that!!!Thanks for your time, Yvette How low will we go? Check out Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates. Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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