pelvi-ureteric-junction-obstruction

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Hi all,

 

I'm a TCM student looking for some advice as I'm not yet able to

treat myself, and many of you on this list have a greater

understanding of both Chinese and Western Medicine.

 

I've recently been diagnosed with Pelvi-Ureteric-Junction-

Obstruction. The urologist said that it's a birth fault of some sort

and will require surgery (a removal of the narrowed ureter). The

fault is present in both ureters. However, the waiting list for this

operation is a year long. I'd like to know what I could do in the

mean time to:-

 

1. Reduce further damage to the kidneys (right kidney is already 1/3

damaged)

2. Prevent reccurent cystitis

3. Nourish the 'Will'

 

I'd also like to know anyones veiws on how this will (and may

already have) affect the 'Will and fear' stored by the kidney, and

how the removal of the obstruction may

 

If anyone is interested you can contact me for further information

on symptoms, medical history, etc., just mail me.

 

Thankyou for taking the time to read this. I hope you are all well.

 

Love and light

Jag

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Again, use herbs to nourtish the kidney qi huia function.

 

Jag <jag_panesar wrote:Hi all,

 

I'm a TCM student looking for some advice as I'm not yet able to

treat myself, and many of you on this list have a greater

understanding of both Chinese and Western Medicine.

 

I've recently been diagnosed with Pelvi-Ureteric-Junction-

Obstruction. The urologist said that it's a birth fault of some sort

and will require surgery (a removal of the narrowed ureter). The

fault is present in both ureters. However, the waiting list for this

operation is a year long. I'd like to know what I could do in the

mean time to:-

 

1. Reduce further damage to the kidneys (right kidney is already 1/3

damaged)

2. Prevent reccurent cystitis

3. Nourish the 'Will'

 

I'd also like to know anyones veiws on how this will (and may

already have) affect the 'Will and fear' stored by the kidney, and

how the removal of the obstruction may

 

If anyone is interested you can contact me for further information

on symptoms, medical history, etc., just mail me.

 

Thankyou for taking the time to read this. I hope you are all well.

 

Love and light

Jag

 

 

 

 

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Hi Randy R.!

 

Male. You didn't change the subject line, did you? I can't find the

original post to make any sense of your question.

 

*Never* change the subject line when replying to a post. The email client

will put in " Re: " and then repeat the subject. Then people following the

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At 11:15 PM 3/20/2004, you wrote:

 

 

 

>Are you male or female?

 

Regards,

 

Pete

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Hi Pete,

 

Female. I know the member who posted the original post.

 

If you go to the archives and go back a few days you'll find it and

you'll see it ties up with all the replies. The fact that Randy's

message didn't tie up is a little puzzling.

 

Attilio

 

Pete Theisen <petet@a...> wrote:

> Hi Randy R.!

>

> Male. You didn't change the subject line, did you? I can't find

the

> original post to make any sense of your question.

>

> *Never* change the subject line when replying to a post. The email

client

> will put in " Re: " and then repeat the subject. Then people

following the

> thread will be able to organize the messages.

>

> At 11:15 PM 3/20/2004, you wrote:

>

>

>

> >Are you male or female?

>

> Regards,

>

> Pete

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Hi Atillio!

 

Thanks! I *try* to get the big picture on these things, don't know that I

always succeed . . . What was the subject line of the original post, I

can't find it? Or, you could provide a link <g>

 

At 02:46 AM 3/21/2004, you wrote:

>Hi Pete,

>

>Female. I know the member who posted the original post.

>

>If you go to the archives and go back a few days you'll find it and

>you'll see it ties up with all the replies. The fact that Randy's

>message didn't tie up is a little puzzling.

>

>Attilio

>

>Pete Theisen <petet@a...> wrote:

> > Hi Randy R.!

> >

> > Male. You didn't change the subject line, did you? I can't find

>the

> > original post to make any sense of your question.

> >

> > *Never* change the subject line when replying to a post. The email

>client

> > will put in " Re: " and then repeat the subject. Then people

>following the

> > thread will be able to organize the messages.

> >

> > At 11:15 PM 3/20/2004, you wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> > >Are you male or female?

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Pete

>

>

>

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Hi Pete,

 

Direct link is

 

http://health.Chinese Medicine/mes

sage/5011

 

Or search the archives for message 5011

 

Attilio

 

Pete Theisen <petet@a...> wrote:

> Hi Atillio!

>

> Thanks! I *try* to get the big picture on these things, don't know

that I

> always succeed . . . What was the subject line of the original

post, I

> can't find it? Or, you could provide a link <g>

>

> At 02:46 AM 3/21/2004, you wrote:

> >Hi Pete,

> >

> >Female. I know the member who posted the original post.

> >

> >If you go to the archives and go back a few days you'll find it

and

> >you'll see it ties up with all the replies. The fact that Randy's

> >message didn't tie up is a little puzzling.

> >

> >Attilio

> >

> >Pete Theisen <petet@a...> wrote:

> > > Hi Randy R.!

> > >

> > > Male. You didn't change the subject line, did you? I can't find

> >the

> > > original post to make any sense of your question.

> > >

> > > *Never* change the subject line when replying to a post. The

email

> >client

> > > will put in " Re: " and then repeat the subject. Then people

> >following the

> > > thread will be able to organize the messages.

> > >

> > > At 11:15 PM 3/20/2004, you wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > >Are you male or female?

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > Pete

> >

> >

> >

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[Guest guest]

Hi Everyone,

 

I'm female, 21 years of age. Before the discovery of this stricture

of the ureter I was subjected to repeated urinary infections, one

after another for the length of 2/3 months of last year (from spring

break onwards). I was given antibiotics and told to go away by my

doctor. It wasn't until I was in excruciating pain (lower back and

inside surface of the bladder) and began urinating blood that I was

taken seriously and an investigation of the internals was begun.

 

It wasn't until this had been diagnosed as something other than a

figment of my imagination. Now that we know what it is and how to

fix it I get the impression by the urologist that I should have no

further questions on the matter. BUT I can't help wonder how a

physical malfunction could affect the development of the

emotional/spiritual aspects of our being. I understand that the

physical problems (like a malfunctioned organ) can be removed and

this will not remove the qi aspect (or sub-spirit), but surely it

must affect it somehow.

 

I've been trying to work myself throught the logic of it for a few

weeks now. We know that Yin (blood, and body fluids) are dependant

upon Yang (qi) to move. One cannot be without the other. If we look

at pelvi-ureteric-junction-obstruction, there's a physical

obstruction which is hindering the flow of toxins out of the body.

If the fluids are not moving, doesn't this mean that the qi is also

not flowing as it should be, with ease? Would this prevent the

spirit from being nourished by the qi of the entire body? Or does

the spirit develop through other means, and if so please explain how

(remember that this is a congenital condition).

 

If I'm on the right track, then is it possible that the removal of

the pysical obstruction, could lead to an emotional release which

had previously been congested? In this case (as the kidney is the

organ directly involved), maybe, unsubstancial fear, or unable to

face the prospect of becomming older (I don't think it'd be the

second one in my case).I find it increasingly difficult to seperate

the two aspects of the body that so beautifully

entwines [spirit and body].

 

What are your veiws on this?

 

Keep well.

Jag