Guest guest Posted November 29, 2009 Report Share Posted November 29, 2009 Hi list, This is what is suspected that I have, though to diagnose it via Western medicine I will need an endoscopic exam, where a biopsy will also be done. This is not being done until after the 1st of the New Year. The symptoms I have are: --for years, feeling much fullness after eating meals for hours and hours later (actually feeling more full as time went on, but haven't felt that in the past few years). The past several months have felt the following symptoms: --lots of burping, whereas I've never been a person who burped much, if at all. --if bent over for several minutes to do something, I feel as if I will vomit. Not nausea, but just feel the bile right in the back of my throat. I have also awakened in the middle of the night a couple of times feeling this way, having to immediately sit up in bed. --throat often feels raw or slightly sore most of the time now. --feel chilled much of the time, when I'm normally warm rather than cold. --for the past 3 weeks or so, I usually feel as if a large pill is stuck in my throat, sometimes the sensation is more prominent than others. --a couple of weeks ago, I had an " attack " in the evening, where I felt spasms in the very center of my diaphragm, very painful. If I swallowed, whether water or just saliva, these spasms would repeat--this went on for about an hour. I went to my Western Dr. a few days later, and the hyetial hernia is what he thinks it is. I live in a very small town, about 4 hours from any possible TCM Dr., so this is the medical care I have at this time. I have been a vegetarian for the past 6-7 years, and this past July removed white sugar and white flour from my diet. My mother also had a hyetial hernia--while I don't remember her having any surgery to correct it, this is what I'm finding out may be the " correction " for this, which I would like to avoid. Are there any herbal tinctures for this, or is acupuncture a more likely thing to help this? From what was explained to me, this is a muscle weakness in the abdominal wall, which causes my stomach to push up into the esophagus. Thanks if anyone can lead me in the right direction... Tamara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2009 Report Share Posted November 29, 2009 In case you want to want to search for it, I believe it's spelt this way: Hiatal Hernia So, this where a portion of the esophagus herniates right above the diaphragm or if it's worse and part or all of the stomach goes through hiatus past the diaphragm and in that case it's called a paraesophaeal hernia. I'm not sure if this is a muscle weakness, or rather just an abnormally large hiatus (the hole in the diaphragm where the esophagus goes through). One thing that can make the hiatus bigger is obesity, although I'm sure genetics plays a role also. Sounds like you're in the right place getting that endoscope and biopsy done. That should give them a good look at it to see just how bad it is and what can and if anything needs to be done. The biopsy may be to test and see if the tissue has ulcerated because if there is a herniated area of the esophagus it will probably have more contact with stomach acid. This stomach acid may also be why your throat feels raw and sore most of the time. Typically TCM can help the stuff when the Dr says that if it's not bothering you it can wait a while. If this type of hernia ends up being the case it's probably more a long the lines of a structure problem so I'm not sure how effective TCM would be, especially in the more advanced cases. It would probably be worth while though to do a checkup though with a TCM practitioner and see if there is anything going on that could have added to the development of this condition, or that they can do to get prepared/recover from surgery. So basically from what I know there are probably some things that TCM can do to help, but it will probably not fix the hernia if it needs fixed right away. If the western Dr says you don't need surgery right away you could get to a TCM practitioner and see what they can do and hopefully they can improve your symptoms. Sometimes small towns end up having TCM represented somewhere. If you want to check http://www.acufinder.com/Find+Acupuncturist http://dol.jkmcomm.com/acupuncture/default.asp http://gancao.net/acupuncturists or if you want help you can e-mail your zipcode to me and how far you are willing to travel. Good luck, and I hope they get you taken care of =) Chinese Traditional Medicine , " coyotegirl " <savepawsfurever wrote: > > Hi list, > > This is what is suspected that I have, though to diagnose it via Western medicine I will need an endoscopic exam, where a biopsy will also be done. This is not being done until after the 1st of the New Year. > > The symptoms I have are: > > --for years, feeling much fullness after eating meals for hours and hours later (actually feeling more full as time went on, but haven't felt that in the past few years). > > The past several months have felt the following symptoms: > > --lots of burping, whereas I've never been a person who burped much, if at all. > --if bent over for several minutes to do something, I feel as if I will vomit. Not nausea, but just feel the bile right in the back of my throat. I have also awakened in the middle of the night a couple of times feeling this way, having to immediately sit up in bed. > --throat often feels raw or slightly sore most of the time now. > --feel chilled much of the time, when I'm normally warm rather than cold. > --for the past 3 weeks or so, I usually feel as if a large pill is stuck in my throat, sometimes the sensation is more prominent than others. > --a couple of weeks ago, I had an " attack " in the evening, where I felt spasms in the very center of my diaphragm, very painful. If I swallowed, whether water or just saliva, these spasms would repeat--this went on for about an hour. > > I went to my Western Dr. a few days later, and the hyetial hernia is what he thinks it is. I live in a very small town, about 4 hours from any possible TCM Dr., so this is the medical care I have at this time. > > I have been a vegetarian for the past 6-7 years, and this past July removed white sugar and white flour from my diet. My mother also had a hyetial hernia--while I don't remember her having any surgery to correct it, this is what I'm finding out may be the " correction " for this, which I would like to avoid. > > Are there any herbal tinctures for this, or is acupuncture a more likely thing to help this? From what was explained to me, this is a muscle weakness in the abdominal wall, which causes my stomach to push up into the esophagus. > > Thanks if anyone can lead me in the right direction... > > Tamara > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2009 Report Share Posted November 29, 2009 Hiya Ms. Coyote, Let's see what we've got here then... > --for years, feeling much fullness after eating meals for hours and hours > later (actually feeling more full as time went on, but haven't felt that in > the past few years). > In some cases, this would be considered food stagnation, often times this is due to dietary indiscretions such as we Americans may be feeling, still getting over our big annual feast a few days ago. But if you've always got it, and from what I get, your diet is okay, this may be a deficiency in either digestive or peristaltic (intestinal movement) functions. And it could be stress induced, which would throw the nervous system (liver/stomach disharmony for those of you keeping score at home) as part of the problem. > --lots of burping, whereas I've never been a person who burped much, if at > all. > Belching with a foul odor or taste suggests food stagnation. Belching with a lot of volume (both noise and quantity) suggests qi stagnation (kind of a nervous system issue). > --if bent over for several minutes to do something, I feel as if I will > vomit. Not nausea, but just feel the bile right in the back of my throat. I > have also awakened in the middle of the night a couple of times feeling this > way, having to immediately sit up in bed. > This speaks of Spleen qi deficiency, or that digestive function problem I mentioned above. Although, lacking any other signs or symptoms of Spleen qi deficiency I would throw this idea out. The reason I suggest Spleen qi deficiency for positional gastric reflux is that the (Chinese concept of the) Spleen dominates muscle, and that includes the structures such as the tongue and other things that keep stomach contents in the stomach. I admit that's a little bit of a flaky explanation, but I've seen this before, even if my words don't do it justice. > --throat often feels raw or slightly sore most of the time now. > Probably the gastric acid. In Chinese medicine there are a bunch of causes of sore throat, so this doesn't really narrow things down too much. > --feel chilled much of the time, when I'm normally warm rather than cold. > This is completely off the charts of the hiatal hernia, but could support the Spleen qi deficiency, which when it arises with sensations of cold suggests a slightly different diagnosis that goes by the name of Spleen yang deficiency. Essentially, Spleen qi deficiency plus cold symptoms is Spleen yang deficiency. This situation can cause the production of extra fluids in the stomach which can make you feel full very easily and escape upward if you're bent over. > --for the past 3 weeks or so, I usually feel as if a large pill is stuck in > my throat, sometimes the sensation is more prominent than others. > Dampness in the Spleen ( " extra fluids " ) plus time leads to " phelgm " . Phlegm plus qi stagnation equals " Plum Pit " qi or syndrome. Search for that in the search function for this list. We talked about that very recently. > --a couple of weeks ago, I had an " attack " in the evening, where I felt > spasms in the very center of my diaphragm, very painful. If I swallowed, > whether water or just saliva, these spasms would repeat--this went on for > about an hour. > Now we're getting a little more complicated. This is an indication for an herb called huang lian or coptis root. There are some formulas that are said to " drain the epigastrium " which is essentially what you're describing. They're also good for reducing many of these other symptoms that you're describing. Ban Xia Xie Xin Tang (pinnellia decoction to drain the epigastrium) is among my favorites of the xie xin tang family of fine formulas. > > I went to my Western Dr. a few days later, and the hyetial hernia is what > he thinks it is. I live in a very small town, about 4 hours from any > possible TCM Dr., so this is the medical care I have at this time. > He may be right, but I don't think that this answers all of your symptoms. Ask him about that too. > > I have been a vegetarian for the past 6-7 years, and this past July removed > white sugar and white flour from my diet. My mother also had a hyetial > hernia--while I don't remember her having any surgery to correct it, this is > what I'm finding out may be the " correction " for this, which I would like to > avoid. > > Are there any herbal tinctures for this, or is acupuncture a more likely > thing to help this? From what was explained to me, this is a muscle weakness > in the abdominal wall, which causes my stomach to push up into the > esophagus. > Track down some of that ban xia xie xin tang. you might consider giving that a go. It warms you up (gan jiang - baked ginger) while cooling the throat and removing the sensation of spasm in the diaphragm (huang lian - rx. coptis) plus it dries dampness in the Stomach (zhi gan cao - honey fried licorice and da zao - red date). Good stuff. -al. -- , DAOM Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional. http://twitter.com/algancao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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