Guest guest Posted September 5, 2009 Report Share Posted September 5, 2009 Hi Al and others, I went to an acupuncturist who's well renowned and has a very reputable practice in our area. He treated my child without even looking at the tongue or taking the pulse. I'm not well versed in TCM principles at this point so my question is: can a practitioner diagnose you just by the way your body looks? There's not question the acupuncture and herbs were effective in reversing the onset of a cold but I wonder if the doctor used a modality of TCM that does not require examining pulse or tongue? Thanks, Marilia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2009 Report Share Posted September 5, 2009 Everybody has their own way of doing things. Sometimes problems are so obvious whereby there is little pattern differentiation required. Other times, especially in chronic adult conditions, things are so complex that they require tongue and pulse. So, your practitioner could be lazy, or really experienced. Not sure which applies. My malpractice insurance carrier demands that I note the tongue and pulse findings in the patient file. Their thinking is that doing this makes it easier to defend a practitioner in a lawsuit because tongue and pulse are the " standard of care " in the industry. So, he really should probably do it, but if your kid's getting better, at least you can take solace in that. -al. On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 9:23 AM, mommymama2000 <mmmpowerswrote: > > > Hi Al and others, > > I went to an acupuncturist who's well renowned and has a very reputable > practice in our area. He treated my child without even looking at the tongue > or taking the pulse. I'm not well versed in TCM principles at this point so > my question is: can a practitioner diagnose you just by the way your body > looks? There's not question the acupuncture and herbs were effective in > reversing the onset of a cold but I wonder if the doctor used a modality of > TCM that does not require examining pulse or tongue? Thanks, > > Marilia > -- , DAOM Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2009 Report Share Posted September 5, 2009 He's in the zone. Some of the QiGong GrandMasters I know can project their qi into you and feel what you're feeling. They use that as part of their diagnostic process. - " mommymama2000 " <mmmpowers <Chinese Traditional Medicine > Saturday, September 05, 2009 9:23 AM [Chinese Traditional Medicine] Question regarding treatment > Hi Al and others, > > I went to an acupuncturist who's well renowned and has a very reputable > practice in our area. He treated my child without even looking at the > tongue or taking the pulse. I'm not well versed in TCM principles at this > point so my question is: can a practitioner diagnose you just by the way > your body looks? There's not question the acupuncture and herbs were > effective in reversing the onset of a cold but I wonder if the doctor used > a modality of TCM that does not require examining pulse or tongue? > Thanks, > > Marilia > > > > --- > > Post message address: Chinese Traditional Medicine > http://health.Chinese Traditional Medicine/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2009 Report Share Posted September 5, 2009 Also with a child under 8 the index finger is often used like a pulse. The finger is rubbed and how the blood reenters the finger tells which part of the body the problem is. Regina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2009 Report Share Posted September 5, 2009 Hi Marilia, I've read somewhere that diagnosis is really 80% history taking, 15% examination and 5% testing. This is true to both western and Chinese medicine. In my experience, children's conditions are most commonly external and yang in nature. The acupuncturist's experience and your history narrative probably provided enough information to formulate a treatment strategy such that he felt the pulse and tongue exams are not necessary. That's not uncommon. ........Hoenie mommymama2000 wrote: > Hi Al and others, > > I went to an acupuncturist who's well renowned and has a very reputable practice in our area. He treated my child without even looking at the tongue or taking the pulse. I'm not well versed in TCM principles at this point so my question is: can a practitioner diagnose you just by the way your body looks? There's not question the acupuncture and herbs were effective in reversing the onset of a cold but I wonder if the doctor used a modality of TCM that does not require examining pulse or tongue? Thanks, > > Marilia > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2009 Report Share Posted September 6, 2009 In the diagnosis book that I edited, we give the age as " 3 " but I don't believe it's written in stone or anything. The key issues are: 1. The arm of an infant is too short and wiggly to take a clear pulse reading. 2. The skin is thin enough to visualize the vein beneath the skin. On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 2:54 PM, Mercurius Trismegistus < magisterium_magnum wrote: > > > I thought that was for children 3 and under. That goes all the way up to > age 8? > -- , DAOM Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2009 Report Share Posted September 6, 2009 I thought that was for children 3 and under. That goes all the way up to age 8? - <rtserk <Chinese Traditional Medicine > Saturday, September 05, 2009 5:17 PM Re: [Chinese Traditional Medicine] Question regarding treatment > Also with a child under 8 the index finger is often used like a pulse. > The finger is rubbed and how the blood reenters the finger tells which > part of > the body the problem is. Regina > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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