Fibromyalgia

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Chinese Traditional Medicine , Al Stone <al wrote:

 

> My own take is that this is often stress-induced or aggravated, as such the

> treatment principle is to simply relax or nourish the blood of the " Liver " .

> This is often done with acupuncture and/or herbs.

 

I want to share something that I've come on to lately about this " just relax "

thing. For someone who's been there and done that " just relaxing " can be quite

difficult. Meditation is quite helpful, but if you're not really to that point,

and still have some mind wandering etc, these things can be really great.

 

This is more of a specific product type thing, but Belleruth has really done

some research in to this form of guided meditation called guided imagery. There

are even medical studies on them showing that they are effective in producing a

meditative state and healing. For example this process is used in VA hospitals

to help soldiers with PTSD

 

It makes more sense to just listen to a sample and see what you think rather

than try to explain it. A 15 min sample is available for free here

http://www.healthjourneys.com/free_audio.asp

 

There is one specifically tailored to the issues people with CFS and FM have,

and it is here

http://www.healthjourneys.com/product_detail.aspx?id=94

 

You can also listen to a short sample of that disc here

http://www.healthjourneys.com/showaudio.aspx?cid=94

 

This is just one form of guided meditation, that seems to be quite helpful for

people that maybe aren't experienced in the subject matter.

 

There is also an article that she wrote explaining the connection between CFS/FM

and trauma, and of course trama = stress.

http://belleruthnaparstek.com/ask-belleruth/is-there-a-connection-between-fibrom\

yalgia-and-traumatic-stress.html

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Looks like that last link didn't work, so I am going to try again

 

http://tinyurl.com/onawvb

 

here

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hopefully one of those will work

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

HI Karen,

It might be worth checking into a Community Acupuncture Clinic in your area

where the treatment is much less expensive and you can continue with the

same practitioner until you no longer need them. Google San Diego Community

Acupuncture Clinics and I am sure you will find some. Pacific College is

in San Diego, you can call the school and ask for recommendations. wishing

you good health, Regina

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hello,

 

I have Belleruth's CD for Fibro/CFS. It is more geared toward

visualization and affirmations. I have tried it to help me relax, but

can not make my muscles do so. I also have some Meta music CD's that

are kind of neat, especially one that helps you get to sleep, called

" Sleeping through the Rain " .

 

I was diagnosed with FM over ten years ago, but have had the disease for

30 years, since I was about 15 years old. I do believe that trauma,

whether physical or mental, is a basis for this disease. My older

sister was killed by a drunk driver when I was 14 years old. Then, when

I was 26, I was in a car accident. I have many other conditions that I

have been told other people with FM have, such as Migraine, Irritable

Bowel Syndrome, Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome, Interstitial Cystitis,

Asthma, Roseacea, and Chronic Myofascial Pain Syndrome. I have tried

acupuncture, massage therapy, Chinese Herbs, Diathermy, Laser Therapy,

and am currently on several prescription medications. Everything I have

tried has not made me any better, and some have made me worse. I had to

give up my job and have filed for disability.

 

I wish I could have afforded a TCM practitioner who could have helped me

before things got this bad, but I was only able to go to the local TCM

school for treatment. When you pay a lesser fee for this kind of

treatment there is no continuity of treatment because you see different

students/teachers every time you go.

 

I always look forward to reading the messages on this group. Thanks for

sharing your knowledge.

 

Karen in San Diego

 

mrasmm wrote:

>

>

> Chinese Traditional Medicine

> <Chinese Traditional Medicine%40>, Al Stone <al wrote:

>

> > My own take is that this is often stress-induced or aggravated, as

> such the

> > treatment principle is to simply relax or nourish the blood of the

> " Liver " .

> > This is often done with acupuncture and/or herbs.

>

> I want to share something that I've come on to lately about this " just

> relax " thing. For someone who's been there and done that " just

> relaxing " can be quite difficult. Meditation is quite helpful, but if

> you're not really to that point, and still have some mind wandering

> etc, these things can be really great.

>

> This is more of a specific product type thing, but Belleruth has

> really done some research in to this form of guided meditation called

> guided imagery. There are even medical studies on them showing that

> they are effective in producing a meditative state and healing. For

> example this process is used in VA hospitals to help soldiers with PTSD

>

> It makes more sense to just listen to a sample and see what you think

> rather than try to explain it. A 15 min sample is available for free here

> http://www.healthjourneys.com/free_audio.asp

> <http://www.healthjourneys.com/free_audio.asp>

>

> There is one specifically tailored to the issues people with CFS and

> FM have, and it is here

> http://www.healthjourneys.com/product_detail.aspx?id=94

> <http://www.healthjourneys.com/product_detail.aspx?id=94>

>

> You can also listen to a short sample of that disc here

> http://www.healthjourneys.com/showaudio.aspx?cid=94

> <http://www.healthjourneys.com/showaudio.aspx?cid=94>

>

> This is just one form of guided meditation, that seems to be quite

> helpful for people that maybe aren't experienced in the subject matter.

>

> There is also an article that she wrote explaining the connection

> between CFS/FM and trauma, and of course trama = stress.

>

http://belleruthnaparstek.com/ask-belleruth/is-there-a-connection-between-fibrom\

yalgia-and-traumatic-stress.html

>

<http://belleruthnaparstek.com/ask-belleruth/is-there-a-connection-between-fibro\

myalgia-and-traumatic-stress.html>

>

>

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Chinese Traditional Medicine , Karen Peterson <kpeterha

wrote:

>

> Hello,

>

> I have Belleruth's CD for Fibro/CFS. It is more geared toward

> visualization and affirmations. I have tried it to help me relax, but

> can not make my muscles do so. I also have some Meta music CD's that

> are kind of neat, especially one that helps you get to sleep, called

> " Sleeping through the Rain " .

 

Sounds like you've found some stuff that's working for you, and that's

great! Everyone is on their own journey of course and some stuff works

for some and not others.

 

I really appreciate you sharing your personal experience of explaining

how FM and CFS are likely have some kind of trauma as a base, and

explaining that the CD I mentioned doesn't exactly help everyone relax

in the purest form of the word.

 

That brought up for me that I'd like to take an opportunity to clarify

more specifically what I was talking about when I was talking about

" just relaxing " . So this really has less to do with anyone else and

more to do with that I want to share more, so it's not directed in any

specific way.

 

 

 

 

 

So, with that said, more specifically what I mean is the feeling of

being present in the current moment, which could sometimes have the

effect of letting muscles loosen up, but that's not specifically the

intent that I'd like to talk about.

 

The specific intent would look more like letting what is be what it is,

and learning to feel that in each moment. Learning to feel grounded in

one's own space, learning how to feel love for ourselves moment by

moment, just because we do, devoid of self limiters and disclaimers. We

are what we are no matter what we do.

 

When this happens, the stress to have a particular result tends to fade,

life then becomes more about choices about feelings and boundaries

within ourselves, then there is a chance for feelings that we like to

grow because that's what the focus becomes about. And more and more as

the focus is on what's wanted, the things that are not can start to

fade.

 

What's coming to mind is like when a group of friends or family is out

doing something and there is a person in the group that seems uptight,

and everyone keeps telling them to just relax. One of the reasons that

person can feel so uptight to the others is because they have their mind

set on a specific outcome and so they try to control factors to get the

result they feel is important. Because they are so focused on the

result they might not have much left over to enjoy the experience.

 

 

 

 

 

As a separate note, if you like Belleruth, and you haven't already,

there's a CD that more specifically targets relieving stress

http://www.healthjourneys.com/Product_Detail.aspx?id=26

 

here's the audio sample of that one, you'll need something that can play

realplayer streaming files

http://easylink.playstream.com/jumpcut/desktopspa/healthjourneys/spa/03_\

soothe_anxiety.rm

 

and if that doesn't work

http://tinyurl.com/lxytqu

 

Of course if what you've got is doing what you want, then there's

probably no need =)