Guest guest Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 There are herbal liqueurs and various medicaments one can take right after a big meal to promote digestion. Are there acupuncture points with similar immediate effect? To needle right after a meal? Tamas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 12:39 PM, yakenez <knz wrote: > > There are herbal liqueurs and various medicaments one can take right after > a big meal to promote digestion. > > Are there acupuncture points with similar immediate effect? To needle right > after a meal? > > Tamas > We're generally taught to avoid acupuncture if the patient is really hungry, or has just had a big meal. However, I'm not really clear on the big meal part, don't know why. So, that being said, I'd suggest Pericardium 6 to get things moving on down the line. It's a big anti-nausea point. However, what it really does is make Stomach qi descend. That means that if there's food in the Stomach, it will go down faster which is what you'd want after a big meal. P6 is often teamed up with Spleen 4 too, though the Spleen points are more for the enzymatic aspect of digestion rather than intestinal or gastric peristalsis. Personally, I think curing pills, bao he wan, bao ji pills, whatever you want to call them are all excellent ways to top off a too-big meal. Oh, I happened to carefully read the ingredients of another maker of these kinds of after-eating pills (known in CM as " food stagnation " ). The brand is called " san jiu " in China. That translates to " three nine " or " triple nine " . Graphically, it is spelled " 999 " . There are some capsules from this brand for indigestion and they look fine, perfectly good. However, there's also this water soluable powder that they sell that is about 50% the same ingredients as the capsules, but the remaining 50% is sugar. I don't find that to be too healthy of a chioice. People seem to like it, but I don't prescribe that kind of sugary formula. In modern American culture, we're getting way too much sugar already. No reason to add it to our medicines. (I can hear Mary Poppins in my head singing " Just a spoonful of sugar helps the medicine go down. " ) If it were just a spoonful, I think I'd be okay, but 50% of the dosage seems a bit over the top to me. -al. > > > > -- , DAOM Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2009 Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 They should pack that with stevia. - " Al Stone " <al <Chinese Traditional Medicine > Friday, May 22, 2009 3:37 PM Re: [Chinese Traditional Medicine] acupuncture after big meal? > On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 12:39 PM, yakenez <knz wrote: > >> >> There are herbal liqueurs and various medicaments one can take right >> after >> a big meal to promote digestion. >> >> Are there acupuncture points with similar immediate effect? To needle >> right >> after a meal? >> >> Tamas >> > > We're generally taught to avoid acupuncture if the patient is really > hungry, > or has just had a big meal. However, I'm not really clear on the big meal > part, don't know why. > > So, that being said, I'd suggest Pericardium 6 to get things moving on > down > the line. It's a big anti-nausea point. However, what it really does is > make > Stomach qi descend. That means that if there's food in the Stomach, it > will > go down faster which is what you'd want after a big meal. P6 is often > teamed > up with Spleen 4 too, though the Spleen points are more for the enzymatic > aspect of digestion rather than intestinal or gastric peristalsis. > > Personally, I think curing pills, bao he wan, bao ji pills, whatever you > want to call them are all excellent ways to top off a too-big meal. > > Oh, I happened to carefully read the ingredients of another maker of these > kinds of after-eating pills (known in CM as " food stagnation " ). The brand > is > called " san jiu " in China. That translates to " three nine " or " triple > nine " . > Graphically, it is spelled " 999 " . > > There are some capsules from this brand for indigestion and they look > fine, > perfectly good. However, there's also this water soluable powder that they > sell that is about 50% the same ingredients as the capsules, but the > remaining 50% is sugar. > > I don't find that to be too healthy of a chioice. People seem to like it, > but I don't prescribe that kind of sugary formula. In modern American > culture, we're getting way too much sugar already. No reason to add it to > our medicines. (I can hear Mary Poppins in my head singing " Just a > spoonful > of sugar helps the medicine go down. " ) If it were just a spoonful, I think > I'd be okay, but 50% of the dosage seems a bit over the top to me. > > -al. > >> >> >> >> > > > > -- > , DAOM > Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2009 Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 Am I being naive or something? Isn't the obvious treatment simply NOT to eat big meals? After all, our bodies weren't meant to be stuffed. When we eat a meal, shouldn't we stop BEFORE we feel full? If you wait after eating a meal, in about 15-20 minutes we will feel full. The signal doesn't quite hit until a while after eating. Our physiology is very different from animals like lions or pythons that stuff themselves & then rest, letting the food digest & not eating again for a good while. The more we tend to eat at one meal, the more we want to eat in one sitting. It starts to feel 'normal' to eat big meals. I'm not saying who wrote the original question is saying the person " stuffs " themselves but only mentioned a big meal. Still, from the North American - European way, more food is eaten at one time than is good for us. Judy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2009 Report Share Posted May 25, 2009 Thanks Al, I'll try to apply acupressure on P6, Sp4 next time I have that feeling. As for herbs, we have here a local herb mixture based on Centaurium erythraea, it's very good for digestive problems. Of course, I agree with Judy, we simply should not eat big meals. Unfortunately I have weak digestion and sometimes a normal sized meal for me is like a big meal for a healthy person. Tamas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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