Guest guest Posted March 19, 2009 Report Share Posted March 19, 2009 What do salt cravings mean in TCM?I even eat salt by itself:) Also whats the difference between capsules and teapills? I thought teapills would be better because isnt that what the Chinese use and also their cheaper Thankyou Mary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2009 Report Share Posted March 19, 2009 On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 11:04 AM, marykorunic <marykorunicwrote: > What do salt cravings mean in TCM?I even eat salt by itself:) > Better watch your blood pressure. Salt cravings suggests a Kidney deficiency. That doesn't mean that you have a Kidney deficiency, it means that you crave salt. To say that you have a Kidney deficiency would require additional signs and corroborating symptoms. > > > Also whats the difference between capsules and teapills? > I thought teapills would be better because isnt that what the Chinese use > and also their cheaper > They are definitely cheaper, however the size and potency is such that I generally suggest people double or triple the dosage that is listed on the package. That means that one can go through a bottle of 200 of these little teapills in just under 3 days. Now you can add up the cost for a therapeutic dosage compared to capsules. These teapills are the herbal equavlent of over-the-counter drugs. Not as strong but easier to obtain without meeting with an herbalist or cooking nasty tasting herbs. Very convenient, but not considered by many practitioners as all that serious. That's just my observation. some do take them seriously. There are some premade formulas that I actually like very much. Bao Ji Wan is among my favorites. Some of the topicals are good too, like the aromatic creams for muscle pain. But the teapills are like candies as far as I'm concerned. They're as good as anything to enduce a placebo response (not that there's anything wrong with that!) but for my patients with severe problems, I give them something more potent. -al. -- , DAOM Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2009 Report Share Posted March 20, 2009 Thanks Al. i dont like ideas of placebo responses as people might as well drink water for free or sugar pills then pay $10+ for something just to be a placebo and also it lowers the integrity of the industry etc Is there much difference in strength between herbs that you cook and teapills because with a bag of herbs there might only be 3 berries for example for that days medicine so i sort of question is it weak because 36 pills sounds more potent then 3 berries? In your experience have you ever found it to be the case that a person can have high blood pressure when on a bloodpressure cuff its normal?Whenever i've had my bloodpressure taken(including day,night,sitting,standing etc)its always normal(im 27) but when i get agitated/angry i almost feel like i feel my bloodpressure rising. Do you think it could ever be the case that the ranges arnt applicable for everyone or dont consider age,weight etc? Also can you please tell me what's endogenous wind and is there any disorder in TCM that can cause strong pulsating arteries?-like in feet,head,abdomen,carotid artery but not migraine? Thankyou Mary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2009 Report Share Posted March 20, 2009 On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 5:50 PM, marykorunic <marykorunicwrote: > Thanks Al. > i dont like ideas of placebo responses as people might as well drink water > for free or sugar pills then pay $10+ for something just to be a placebo and > also it lowers the integrity of the industry etc > Well, I don't think placebos are so bad. I mean, if a problem is stress-induced, then it is sort of a mental state issue to begin with. If the mental state is calmed or otherwise regulated by taking some little pills out of a package with Chinese words on it, I say go for it! That might not work with a bottle of water. Is there much difference in strength between herbs that you cook and > teapills because with a bag of herbs there might only be 3 berries for > example for that days medicine so i sort of question is it weak because 36 > pills sounds more potent then 3 berries? > You're not just taking 3 berries. You're taking 3 berries plus ten other ingredients. There is no legitimate research comparing the two, but the convention wisdom is that the raw herbs are far better than these pre-made teapills. There's no comparison really. Its like comparing a five course dinner wtih a multi-vitamin. > In your experience have you ever found it to be the case that a person can > have high blood pressure when on a bloodpressure cuff its normal?Whenever > i've had my bloodpressure taken(including day,night,sitting,standing etc)its > always normal(im 27) but when i get agitated/angry i almost feel like i feel > my bloodpressure rising. > Try taking your blood pressure when you're angry/agitated. It is probably higher. BP can change from minute to minute. > > Do you think it could ever be the case that the ranges arnt applicable for > everyone or dont consider age,weight etc? > All of the above are part of the big picture. But you might consider asking this question of a Western trained expert. > > Also can you please tell me what's endogenous wind > Wind is tremors, spasms, shakes, etc. in the muscles. Endogenous means that it comes from the inside, whereas exogenous wind is wind from the outside of the body. and is there any disorder in TCM that can cause strong pulsating > arteries?-like in feet,head,abdomen,carotid artery but not migraine? > Dampness can generate abdominal palpitations. Lot's of things can cause chest palpitations or the heart beat that you can feel. Feeling the heart beat in your limbs isn't associated with any pathology that I know of. -al. -- , DAOM Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2009 Report Share Posted March 20, 2009 Thanks Al. Do you know if theres anywhere online or any books where I could find more information about dampness causing abdominal palpitation symptoms? Thankyou very much Mary Chinese Traditional Medicine , Al Stone <al wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 5:50 PM, marykorunic <marykorunicwrote: > > > Thanks Al. > > i dont like ideas of placebo responses as people might as well drink water > > for free or sugar pills then pay $10+ for something just to be a placebo and > > also it lowers the integrity of the industry etc > > Well, I don't think placebos are so bad. I mean, if a problem is > stress-induced, then it is sort of a mental state issue to begin with. If > the mental state is calmed or otherwise regulated by taking some little > pills out of a package with Chinese words on it, I say go for it! That might > not work with a bottle of water. > > Is there much difference in strength between herbs that you cook and > > teapills because with a bag of herbs there might only be 3 berries for > > example for that days medicine so i sort of question is it weak because 36 > > pills sounds more potent then 3 berries? > > You're not just taking 3 berries. You're taking 3 berries plus ten other > ingredients. There is no legitimate research comparing the two, but the > convention wisdom is that the raw herbs are far better than these pre-made > teapills. There's no comparison really. Its like comparing a five course > dinner wtih a multi-vitamin. > > > > In your experience have you ever found it to be the case that a person can > > have high blood pressure when on a bloodpressure cuff its normal?Whenever > > i've had my bloodpressure taken(including day,night,sitting,standing etc)its > > always normal(im 27) but when i get agitated/angry i almost feel like i feel > > my bloodpressure rising. > > > Try taking your blood pressure when you're angry/agitated. It is probably > higher. BP can change from minute to minute. > > > > > Do you think it could ever be the case that the ranges arnt applicable for > > everyone or dont consider age,weight etc? > All of the above are part of the big picture. But you might consider asking > this question of a Western trained expert. > > > > > Also can you please tell me what's endogenous wind > Wind is tremors, spasms, shakes, etc. in the muscles. Endogenous means that > it comes from the inside, whereas exogenous wind is wind from the outside of > the body. > > and is there any disorder in TCM that can cause strong pulsating > > arteries?-like in feet,head,abdomen,carotid artery but not migraine? > > > > > > > Dampness can generate abdominal palpitations. Lot's of things can cause > chest palpitations or the heart beat that you can feel. Feeling the heart > beat in your limbs isn't associated with any pathology that I know of. > > -al. > > > -- > , DAOM > Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2009 Report Share Posted March 20, 2009 I did a quick search but didn't see anything too helpful. I might be stating this wrong. It may be something like " throbbing beneath the umbilicus " or something like that. On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 9:03 AM, marykorunic <marykorunicwrote: > > Thanks Al. > Do you know if theres anywhere online or any books where I could find more > information about dampness causing abdominal palpitation symptoms? > Thankyou very much Mary > . > > > -- , DAOM Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2009 Report Share Posted March 20, 2009 I thought I would write and mention that if you're having salt cravings, you may want to consider having a western work up in addition to your TCM regimen. There are several adrenal diseases that can cause you to crave salt that be worth looking at or may need some attention. Here's one such example http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Addison%27s_disease Chinese Traditional Medicine , " marykorunic " <marykorunic wrote: > > What do salt cravings mean in TCM?I even eat salt by itself:) > > Also whats the difference between capsules and teapills? > I thought teapills would be better because isnt that what the Chinese use and also their cheaper > Thankyou Mary > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 Thanks mrasmm I was already tested for Addisons disease a while ago and it was negative but it was just cortisol levels not specific testing and you never know with their ranges-they vary from lab to lab and are apparently averaged from a selection of the population not from a selection of HEALTHY population.Maybe thats why people occasionally still have thyroid disorders for ex when their blood tests show they're in the ranges usually on the border? I don't think i'd have it though because i dont have orthostatic hypotension,vomiting or weightloss.I do have slight hyperpigmentation of my knuckles and elbows but im psle so its hardy noticable and i assume they'd be talking about more obvious hyperpigmentation -- In Chinese Traditional Medicine , " mrasmm " <mrasmm wrote: > > I thought I would write and mention that if you're having salt cravings, you may want to consider having a western work up in addition to your TCM regimen. There are several adrenal diseases that can cause you to crave salt that be worth looking at or may need some attention. > > Here's one such example > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Addison%27s_disease > > > > > Chinese Traditional Medicine , " marykorunic " <marykorunic@> wrote: > > > > What do salt cravings mean in TCM?I even eat salt by itself:) > > > > Also whats the difference between capsules and teapills? > > I thought teapills would be better because isnt that what the Chinese use and also their cheaper > > Thankyou Mary > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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